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Janenba vs Gokuu

Post by Legendary Saiya-Jin » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:55 am

Does anyone else think their strengths may have been nearly equal, but Janenba had the upper edge because of his reality-warping powers and the fact that SSJ3 was already a drain on Gokuu?
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Re: Janenba vs Gokuu

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:09 am

I see this fight as what it would look like if Goku fought Super Buu. He managed to get a couple of good hits in, but did no real damage, and as soon as Janemba did a serious attack (that mouth blast), Goku was unable to do any damage at all. He was totally outclassed. He was also dead, which mitigated the SSJ3 energy drain.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:10 pm

Yeah. Their strengths weren't equal, Goku was just a lot weaker.
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Post by InfernalVegito » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:17 pm

To me Janemba is Boo's movie equivalent and therefore many times stronger than Son Goku as well.
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Post by MDSTSSJ » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:16 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:I see this fight as what it would look like if Goku fought Super Buu. He managed to get a couple of good hits in, but did no real damage, and as soon as Janemba did a serious attack (that mouth blast), Goku was unable to do any damage at all. He was totally outclassed. He was also dead, which mitigated the SSJ3 energy drain.
I agree!

For me, Janemba and Super Buu are in the same league, they have the same powers. However, I think that the difference in powers between Kakarotto and Janemba, is not so wide. If Goku was a lot weaker, he could not have given such a good hits on Janemba.
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Re: Janenba vs Gokuu

Post by Legendary Saiya-Jin » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:10 pm

But then how did SSJ1/2 Vegeta do so well, then? Maybe Janenba is around Pure Buu.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:17 pm

Super Janemba is around Super Boo's level. He is Super Boo's movie counter part. So they ain't equal. Super Janemba never really took any damage until Paikuhan used insults and when SSJ Gogeta attacked him.
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Re: Janenba vs Gokuu

Post by Legendary Saiya-Jin » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:22 pm

Hirudegaan's said to be stronger than Janenba, but he managed to defeat him. SSJ2 Vegeta was able to fight him decently momentarily. Janenba teleported Gokuu's ki blast back to him and injured him; Vegeta saw through that and was able to do some damage, so Janenba must be somewhere between SSJ1/2 Vegeta and SSJ3 Gokuu.
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Post by Draken » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:25 pm

Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:Hirudegaan's said to be stronger than Janenba, but he managed to defeat him. SSJ2 Vegeta was able to fight him decently momentarily. Janenba teleported Gokuu's ki blast back to him and injured him; Vegeta saw through that and was able to do some damage.
Well for hirudegarn they used his weakness and the OP PIS dragon fist, and Janemba never really got damaged at all with his regen which is like Buu.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:33 pm

I think Janemba was holding back a tremendous amount of power. Since it's confirmed that Janemba > Hirudegarn, who is stronger than Mystic Gohan, I just go by that theory that says Janemba showed his full power when he got angry at Gogeta. I have Janemba somewhere around Buuhan.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:49 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:I think Janemba was holding back a tremendous amount of power. Since it's confirmed that Janemba > Hirudegarn, who is stronger than Mystic Gohan, I just go by that theory that says Janemba showed his full power when he got angry at Gogeta. I have Janemba somewhere around Buuhan.
Forgot to count Toei dick sucking into the movie equation. Though I wouldn't put Janemba that high personally.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:21 pm

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:I think Janemba was holding back a tremendous amount of power. Since it's confirmed that Janemba > Hirudegarn, who is stronger than Mystic Gohan, I just go by that theory that says Janemba showed his full power when he got angry at Gogeta. I have Janemba somewhere around Buuhan.
Forgot to count Toei dick sucking into the movie equation. Though I wouldn't put Janemba that high personally.
Meh. His dimensional fuckery is around Buuhan's so I'd say they are close.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:45 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
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TheMightyOzaru wrote:I think Janemba was holding back a tremendous amount of power. Since it's confirmed that Janemba > Hirudegarn, who is stronger than Mystic Gohan, I just go by that theory that says Janemba showed his full power when he got angry at Gogeta. I have Janemba somewhere around Buuhan.
Forgot to count Toei dick sucking into the movie equation. Though I wouldn't put Janemba that high personally.
Meh. His dimensional fuckery is around Buuhan's so I'd say they are close with Buuhan being superior.
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Post by Saiga » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:31 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:I see this fight as what it would look like if Goku fought Super Buu. He managed to get a couple of good hits in, but did no real damage, and as soon as Janemba did a serious attack (that mouth blast), Goku was unable to do any damage at all. He was totally outclassed. He was also dead, which mitigated the SSJ3 energy drain.
I agree with this. Although he's supposed to be stronger than Hildegaan, which would make him stronger than Evil Boo if true. Unless Hildegaan wasn't actually stronger than Gotenks and Gohan somehow...
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:04 am

Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:Hirudegaan's said to be stronger than Janenba, but he managed to defeat him.
Nope, Janenba is said to be stronger than Hildegarn in Toei's official website, and the reason was that while Goku could eat Hildegarn, he couldn't beat Janenba.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by Xeogran » Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:46 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:Hirudegaan's said to be stronger than Janenba, but he managed to defeat him.
and the reason was that while Goku could eat Hildegarn
You're great, DBZGTKOSDH :lol:


But yes, Janemba>Hirudegarn. Janemba had a lot of tricks up his sleeve, but when the movies come to an end, Toei Plot-Hax activates and ruins the villains.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:11 am

Nightstar1994 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:Hirudegaan's said to be stronger than Janenba, but he managed to defeat him.
and the reason was that while Goku could eat Hildegarn
You're great, DBZGTKOSDH :lol:
I wanted to say beat, actually. :lol:
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Janenba vs Gokuu

Post by Saiga » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:13 am

That movie would have been improved so much more if Goku discovered that Hildegaan's weakness was being ridiculously edible.
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Re: Janenba vs Gokuu

Post by ドラゴ » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:19 am

Didn't Janemba knock Son Goku out of SS3? And isn't the SS3 transformation meant to be 100% since he's dead? That automatically makes him stronger than Kid Boo and around Super Boo or Boohan level, I'm not sure out of the two though.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:32 am

ドラゴ wrote:Didn't Janemba knock Son Goku out of SS3? And isn't the SS3 transformation meant to be 100% since he's dead? That automatically makes him stronger than Kid Boo and around Super Boo or Boohan level, I'm not sure out of the two though.
Why the heck would SSJ3 Goku be anywhere near Super Buu just because he is dead?
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