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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by PhoenixEX » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:02 pm

Maybe a spin-off with Teen Goten & Teen Trunks as protagonists? Eh nah maybe it wouldn't work.
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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by Insertclevername » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:38 pm

PhoenixEX wrote:Maybe a spin-off with Teen Goten & Teen Trunks as protagonists? Eh nah maybe it wouldn't work.
I'd love that. In fact, I could see Toriyama making great stories for the duo. A lot of humor, some action. It works.
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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:59 am

Have Goku and Vegeta travelling out in space, or something, together, I could see that working so well. :P Like the JSATS level of humor between the two. :D

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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by VyeRo » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:46 am

Or have them go visit Tarble in space. And having crazy adventures along the way. :D

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:02 am

Thirded. X3
I would watch so much of that (Goku and Vegeta JSAT-style adventures in outer space.)
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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:08 am

Maybe they could become some sort of multi-verse police. If Goku finds a way to tap into the god power permanently, he could probably sense what is going on all over the multi-verse. Goku and Vegeta have become big fish in a little pond, so to speak, and the only way to continue the story is to put them in the ocean, which Toriyama has done by revealing there are 12 universes, and that there is an entire race of gods which keep them in balance

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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:31 am

Some key things to consider when trying to imagine where the story is going to go next....

1. Piccolo comments in the movie that Bills seems to be training Goku rather than fighting him. What is he training him for?
2. Bills only used 70% of his power.
3. Whis, Bills attendant, trained Bills in martial arts, is much stronger than him, and has authority over him (Whis puts Bills to sleep, and tells him to brush his teeth first). This suggests that Bills is still a juvenile and is being schooled. Imagine how much stronger mature gods are, who aren't being schooled.
4. Whis offers to make Goku the next God of Destruction, which means a mortal can permanently ascend to god status, and this position of "God of Destruction" can be earned, you're not born into it.

Here is where I think the story will go http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 80#p637899

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:40 am

Since Beers is probably the most powerful of the Hakaishin (that's what Kaio said), and Beers said that there are probably even more incredible guys in the other Universes, I guess that the next villains in the next anime series/movies will be bad guys from the other 11 Universes, rather than the rest of the Hakaishin.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:47 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Since Beers is probably the most powerful of the Hakaishin (that's what Kaio said), and Beers said that there are probably even more incredible guys in the other Universes, I guess that the next villains in the next anime series/movies will be bad guys from the other 11 Universes, rather than the rest of the Hakaishin.
In my story, the 6th Hakaishin isn't bad, he's just Bills rival in the way that brothers are rivals, and after seeing what happened with him on Earth, believes Bills failed to do his job and decides to finish it for him. What the Hakaishin do isn't evil, it's just necessary to keep a cosmic balance. It's also possible that other mortals have discovered how to tap into god power like Goku has, and would be entering the tournament of gods as well, with some of them not having the best of intentions. :)

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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:51 am

UpFromTheSkies wrote:Some key things to consider when trying to imagine where the story is going to go next....

1. Piccolo comments in the movie that Bills seems to be training Goku rather than fighting him. What is he training him for?
2. Bills only used 70% of his power.
3. Whis, Bills attendant, trained Bills in martial arts, is much stronger than him, and has authority over him. This suggests that Bills is still a juvenile, and is being schooled. Imagine how much stronger mature gods are, who aren't being schooled.
4. Whis offers to make Goku the next God of Destruction, which means a mortal can permanently ascend to god status.
1) I guess it's because Beers wanted Goku to go all out and be the formidable foe he's been dreaming about.
2) Goku wasn't powerful enough to push him any further, then you have Beers saying "Goku and Vegeta will be fearsome foes soon", so we could probably gather that they will fight again.
3) Beers never states that Whis is stronger, though it's implied by Beers and Goku.
4) Maybe the only reason Whis offers Goku that role is because he absorbed the God power.

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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:58 am

Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:Piccolo comments in the movie that Bills seems to be training Goku rather than fighting him. What is he training him for?
Maybe Piccolo noticed that Goku was absorbing the godly power into his body? From the legend, we learn that once the time was up, the Super Saiyan God lost the power & was defeated, which means that his body didn't absorb the godly power like Goku did. Beers also said that this happened because Goku was a genius.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:59 am

I'm basing Whis being stronger on this part of the synopsis " While Uis is Birus’s attendant, he is also Birus’s martial arts master. Goku cannot believe it. This must mean that the real strongest in the universe is…" And I'm pretty sure Toriyama also says in an interview that he likes to make pairs of characters with the weaker looking of the two actually being stronger, which is why he made Whis stronger than Bills. Other examples of Toriyama doing this would be Nappa and Vegeta, and Kibito and Kaioshin.

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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:22 pm

We had Dragon Ball hunting on Earth. We had Dragon Ball hunting in the universe. Now its time for Dragon Ball hunting in the multi-verse........yeah...........ok no.
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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by Saiga » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:33 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:We had Dragon Ball hunting on Earth. We had Dragon Ball hunting in the universe. Now its time for Dragon Ball hunting in the multi-verse........yeah...........ok no.
:lol: I think we should stay away from that idea.
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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by DBZ Mick » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:04 pm

I think the best bet is for a story, maybe 50 episodes, and planned out beforehand. And they get to fight all the other Gods of Destructions and other races in some Godly Budokai or something. It could be something fresh...
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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:05 pm

DBZ Mick wrote:I think the best bet for a story, is they get to fight all the other Gods of Destructions and other races in some Godly Budokai or something. It could be something fresh...
And Mr. Satan becomes champion of the multi-verse.
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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by DBZ Mick » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:06 pm

Haha, that would be awesome.
:P :lol:
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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by THEGOKU » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:13 pm

I think this will give to a new series that will have to do with the other universes. Something worth while not a movie here and there. EIther one is fine with me though :)

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Re: Battle of Gods...2?

Post by bleed0range » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:19 am

A new series would be good if Toriyama had a hand in it. I feel he is the only one really who gets exactly what makes the story aspect of Dragon Ball so charming and appealing. He'd have to be coming up with the story and characters while they animate it and he'd have to kind of plan it out ahead of time like it was a movie. I'd be down for all of that.

In regards to what they could do. Well, I have not read many spoilers so I don't know a LOT about the plot of the movie but I can only imagine that Goku would want to either fight someone who was super strong or train under them. So I imagine if there were other universes he'd either want to find those people or maybe train under Beers/Whis or something. I'm not sure but that sounds about right, but keep in mind I've avoided the spoilers thus far. I'm not really sure how much longer I'm gonna last though haha.

I hear that Vegeta has some kind of hidden potential now? If that's true that'd be an interesting plot point that could turn the tables on what we know of Vegeta. He has become a good character so it would be interesting to explore him becoming the strongest somehow, even if it wasn't permanent. They could implement Toriyama's idea from that MMO of Goku and Vegeta fighting it out on a distant barren planet or something once they become even enough in power.

I think the story isn't over like some believe. It's only over if there's nothing left to explore with the characters, which is really what makes DB so interesting. It's not the tournaments, who is stronger or the villains or whatever... I mean that's a part of it true. But it's the development of those characters. Goku working to become stronger and seeing how he has improved to match off against his current opponent(s) or Vegeta slowly becoming good and somehow having a child with Bulma. Those are the kinds of things that drive what makes the story interesting. If that stuff weren't thrown in it would be a lot more barren without a heart at it's helm. So it needs those kinds of things to be worth the while. It has potential, you just have to have some imagination.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:24 am

DBZ Mick wrote:Haha, that would be awesome.
:P :lol:
It wouldn't surprise me if Mr. Satan became champion of the multi-verse. His luck knows no bound.
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