Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by SaiyaJedi » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:39 am

Chuquita wrote:Could someone who isn't region-blocked check this link out and see if it's just FLOW's music video for HERO that's already been floating around or if it's the song over a clip from the movie?
Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLv0Exr0-_E


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It's shots of the band-only music video interspersed with footage from the movie. :)
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Chuquita » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:45 am

SaiyaJedi wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Could someone who isn't region-blocked check this link out and see if it's just FLOW's music video for HERO that's already been floating around or if it's the song over a clip from the movie?
Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLv0Exr0-_E


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It's shots of the band-only music video interspersed with footage from the movie. :)
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:30 am

SaiyaJedi wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Could someone who isn't region-blocked check this link out and see if it's just FLOW's music video for HERO that's already been floating around or if it's the song over a clip from the movie?
Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLv0Exr0-_E


Region-blocking is such a pain. T_T
It's shots of the band-only music video interspersed with footage from the movie. :)
OK, I wanna see this now...like, really badly. Would re-uploading this be against forum rules? :|

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by JeffJarrett » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:15 am

mikey41 wrote:I agree, Goku and Vegeta were also judging Gohan while he was fighting Dabura and saying he got a lot weaker since he fought Cell. Why would they make that comparison if he wasn't fighting at his best? (SSJ2) And his hair looks exactly like how he did when he showed Kibito the form, I think they just forgot about the lightning.
They were discussing the fact that he couldn't release his full power, to me, it means that Gohan wasn't able to turn SS2 during the battle against Dabura because he got weaker.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Tzigi » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:18 am

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:
SaiyaJedi wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Could someone who isn't region-blocked check this link out and see if it's just FLOW's music video for HERO that's already been floating around or if it's the song over a clip from the movie?
Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLv0Exr0-_E


Region-blocking is such a pain. T_T
It's shots of the band-only music video interspersed with footage from the movie. :)
OK, I wanna see this now...like, really badly. Would re-uploading this be against forum rules? :|
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Mewzard » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:28 am

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mikey41 wrote:I agree, Goku and Vegeta were also judging Gohan while he was fighting Dabura and saying he got a lot weaker since he fought Cell. Why would they make that comparison if he wasn't fighting at his best? (SSJ2) And his hair looks exactly like how he did when he showed Kibito the form, I think they just forgot about the lightning.
They were discussing the fact that he couldn't release his full power, to me, it means that Gohan wasn't able to turn SS2 during the battle against Dabura because he got weaker.
...Except for the fact he literally, with little effort, turned SSJ2 at the Tournament just because he felt like showing Kibito that there was a level beyond SSJ, so that makes no sense.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Gonstead » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:50 am

Mewzard wrote:
JeffJarrett wrote:
mikey41 wrote:I agree, Goku and Vegeta were also judging Gohan while he was fighting Dabura and saying he got a lot weaker since he fought Cell. Why would they make that comparison if he wasn't fighting at his best? (SSJ2) And his hair looks exactly like how he did when he showed Kibito the form, I think they just forgot about the lightning.
They were discussing the fact that he couldn't release his full power, to me, it means that Gohan wasn't able to turn SS2 during the battle against Dabura because he got weaker.
...Except for the fact he literally, with little effort, turned SSJ2 at the Tournament just because he felt like showing Kibito that there was a level beyond SSJ, so that makes no sense.
Except that he was in an eranged-like state because of Videl's beatdown that he was only able to easily access that power.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by JeffJarrett » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:51 am

I was about to say this as well; Gohan was angry because of the attack on Videl during the tournament, while he had no reason to get mad and become SS2 against Dabura. Even with Piccolo and Krillin turned to stone, Gohan wasn't angry during the battle. One of the databooks (Daizenshuu 7 I think) says that Gohan's last usage of SS2 was during the tournament.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Saiga » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:36 am

Daizenshuu 7 says he used it against Dabra.

And I don't buy that Gohan was only able to use it at the tournament because Videl was attacked. He had calmed down once Videl was given the Senzu, which was before his match with Kibito.
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Post by fogdark » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:42 am

I'll join this discussion of Gohan's SSj2 transformation for a bit, because this really caught my attention.
When Gohan was about to leave with Kaioshin to stop the re-birth of Majin Buu, leaving his father and Vegeta to fight, didn't Goku remind Gohan to get angry? that when he's angry he was unstoppable? I seem to remember Goku telling Gohan something along those lines.
So it's really interesting because yes, he turned SSj2 in the tournament when he got furious during Videl's beat-down, and then during his fight against Kibito, which happened more or less, immediately after. Much later he fights Dabura when he's no longer angry, and Goku and Vegeta discuss how he's gotten weaker, and then, afterwards, Goku reminds Gohan to get angry. It really seems like Gohan never managed to completely master the SSj2 state. Looking back on it, it feels like he could only reach that form only when he was angry enough.
Now I can see that Gohan really had dormant power left, since the only way he could access it was with the SSj transformations, but he only had complete control over the first form. The old Kaioshin simply gave him easy access to that hidden power.
Of course, there's a lot of guesswork in here, and the Daizenshuu may contradict all of this, but the Daizenshuu have been proven to have incorrect information before, so I wouldn't trust it 100%. Anyways, for the sake of discussion, why don't we leave the guides out of this and just concentrate on the manga. Of course, in the original Japanese manga, Goku may not have reminded his son to get angry, at least not in those exact words. But still, I think this topic deserves a thread of his own, if there isn't one already, since it's a very interesting thought and worthy of discussion, in my opinion....
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by The Monkey King » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:44 am

The way I see it no lightning in the manga = no SSJ2

So Gohan wasn't SSJ2 when he fought Dabura

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Post by fogdark » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:59 am

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:13 am

To me, only when they have lightning around them I see them like ssj2.
So for me, In Buu saga Gohan only turnt ssj2 in the tournament against kibito. :P
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Post by fogdark » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:07 am

So according to the Hollywood Reporter, Battle of Gods it's now on the 6th place in the international Box Office chart after one full week of screenings. Apparently it made $4.4 million this past weekend, increasing the gross of the film so far up to $18.7 million. :thumbup:
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:15 am

Gonstead wrote:
Mewzard wrote:
JeffJarrett wrote:They were discussing the fact that he couldn't release his full power, to me, it means that Gohan wasn't able to turn SS2 during the battle against Dabura because he got weaker.
...Except for the fact he literally, with little effort, turned SSJ2 at the Tournament just because he felt like showing Kibito that there was a level beyond SSJ, so that makes no sense.
Except that he was in an eranged-like state because of Videl's beatdown that he was only able to easily access that power.
Except that Gohan wasn't angry anymore, since Videl was healed & everything was OK at that point.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:30 am

Saiga wrote:Daizenshuu 7 says he used it against Dabra.

And I don't buy that Gohan was only able to use it at the tournament because Videl was attacked. He had calmed down once Videl was given the Senzu, which was before his match with Kibito.
That event happened shortly before and it would make sense if he used that rage to go Ssj2. Hopefully when the Buu saga portion of the manga is recolored we will get a clear idea of whether or not he was a Ssj2.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:42 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Hopefully when the Buu saga portion of the manga is recolored we will get a clear idea of whether or not he was a Ssj2.
How? The Super Saiyan & Super Saiyan 2 have exactly the same colors.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Bullza » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:44 am

According to Rentrak (a Box Office tracking site who Box Office Mojo use for their numbers) Battle of Gods made $4.4 million on it's second weekend and has made $18.7 million in total.

That's a very good amount. Unfortunately the yen is weak right now and had the movie come out when Film Z did that $18.7 million would have translated to over $21 million. It should easily pass 3 billion yen mark that Toei was hoping for.

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Post by alakazam^ » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:24 pm

Bullza wrote:According to Rentrak (a Box Office tracking site who Box Office Mojo use for their numbers) Battle of Gods made $4.4 million on it's second weekend and has made $18.7 million in total.

That's a very good amount. Unfortunately the yen is weak right now and had the movie come out when Film Z did that $18.7 million would have translated to over $21 million. It should easily pass 3 billion yen mark that Toei was hoping for.
Hmm I don't know how this movie revenue stuff works but isn't that too low? Or am I thinking wrong and 3 billion yen equals around $30 million?

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