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One of my fanon is that the Kienzan is a slow and noisy technique, which severely hampers it's usefulness and lets non ki-sensors like Freeza dodge it from behind easily. Also as a balance for it's incredible cutting power.
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The color of your Ki is determined by the "ranking" of your soul (good, evil, in between), your mood, and your genetics.
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To become Super Saiyan 2, the Saiyan must first have achieved Super Saiyan Full Power. Super Saiyan 2 is like a Super Super Saiyan (it doubles the power & makes the hair stand-up even more), in other words, it's like having a Super Saiyan turn again into a Super Saiyan on top of Super Saiyan. By upgrading his Super Saiyan form into Super Saiyan Full Power, he makes his Super Saiyan form feel like his natural state, which allows the Super Saiyan 2 transformation to happen. (And yes, I believe that not only Goku & Gohan, but Vegeta, Future Trunks, Goten, and Trunks (and of course, Gotenks & Vegetto as well) have reached Super Saiyan Full Power.)
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Would the lack of mastery for 2 be the reason SS3 really fucks the user over?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:To become Super Saiyan 2, the Saiyan must first have achieved Super Saiyan Full Power. Super Saiyan 2 is like a Super Super Saiyan (it doubles the power & makes the hair stand-up even more), in other words, it's like having a Super Saiyan turn again into a Super Saiyan on top of Super Saiyan. By upgrading his Super Saiyan form into Super Saiyan Full Power, he makes his Super Saiyan form feel like his natural state, which allows the Super Saiyan 2 transformation to happen. (And yes, I believe that not only Goku & Gohan, but Vegeta, Future Trunks, Goten, and Trunks (and of course, Gotenks & Vegetto as well) have reached Super Saiyan Full Power.)
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GT never happened. And King Cold was way stronger than Frieza and could have beaten Trunks if he had time to transform.
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You mean the lack of "Super Saiyan 2 Full Power"? I don't believe there is such thing. I actually don't believe that there are other Saiyan forms other than the ones we have seen.Saiga wrote:Would the lack of mastery for 2 be the reason SS3 really fucks the user over?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:To become Super Saiyan 2, the Saiyan must first have achieved Super Saiyan Full Power. Super Saiyan 2 is like a Super Super Saiyan (it doubles the power & makes the hair stand-up even more), in other words, it's like having a Super Saiyan turn again into a Super Saiyan on top of Super Saiyan. By upgrading his Super Saiyan form into Super Saiyan Full Power, he makes his Super Saiyan form feel like his natural state, which allows the Super Saiyan 2 transformation to happen. (And yes, I believe that not only Goku & Gohan, but Vegeta, Future Trunks, Goten, and Trunks (and of course, Gotenks & Vegetto as well) have reached Super Saiyan Full Power.)
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Yeah, that's what I meant. It seems you're argument was that without SSFP, SS2 couldn't be handled. That'd be like SS3, right? It can't be handled properly because there is no SS2FP.DBZGTKOSDH wrote: You mean the lack of "Super Saiyan 2 Full Power"? I don't believe there is such thing. I actually don't believe that there are other Saiyan forms other than the ones we have seen.
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Also the villain old Kai fought in his time was Dabura's father
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I don't view Super Saiyan 3 as a "Super Super Super Saiyan", like with 2. I view Super Saiyan Grade 2, Super Saiyan Grade 3, Super Saiyan Full Power, and Super Saiyan 2 as sub-forms to the Super Saiyan form, while Super Saiyan 3 is the true transformation beyond Super Saiyan. Which, of course, requires Super Saiyan 2.Saiga wrote:Yeah, that's what I meant. It seems you're argument was that without SSFP, SS2 couldn't be handled. That'd be like SS3, right? It can't be handled properly because there is no SS2FP.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I don't think there's hard lines between the SS forms. "SS3" isn't some form that existed on its own and all they had to do was find it, it's a bloated distortion caused by jamming way, way, way too much power into Super Saiyan.
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Cooler stopped by Yardrat before coming to Earth, where he learned Instant Transmission after killing this guy: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Soba_(Yardrat)
Super Saiyan 3 Goku at the end of the Buu Saga is the strongest Goku or any being can ever possibly be without fusion or Kai magic.
Super Saiyan 3 Goku at the end of the Buu Saga is the strongest Goku or any being can ever possibly be without fusion or Kai magic.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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But only Metal Coola knows it... Which I would be okay with if it wasn't the Shunkanido but something else entirely due to him being artificial, which still might be. Was it stated to actually be the Shunkanido?RandomGuy96 wrote:Cooler stopped by Yardrat before coming to Earth, where he learned Instant Transmission after killing this guy: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Soba_(Yardrat)
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It is in the English Dub, at least. Goku says something about Instant Transmission, and Cooler replies that it's one of his favorite techniques.DNA wrote:But only Metal Coola knows it... Which I would be okay with if it wasn't the Shunkanido but something else entirely due to him being artificial, which still might be. Was it stated to actually be the Shunkanido?RandomGuy96 wrote:Cooler stopped by Yardrat before coming to Earth, where he learned Instant Transmission after killing this guy: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Soba_(Yardrat)
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The reason SSJ3 has long hair is to store a vast amount of the ki so it isn't too much on the body. Jackie Chun is Kame Sennin's actual name.
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My thoughts on the matter are that Super Saiyan 2 (which was originally conceived as Super Saiyan Grade 5) is the true Super Saiyan state. Super Saiyan 3 is sort of like the Grade 3 version of Super Saiyan 2.Rocketman wrote:I don't think there's hard lines between the SS forms. "SS3" isn't some form that existed on its own and all they had to do was find it, it's a bloated distortion caused by jamming way, way, way too much power into Super Saiyan.
If Gohan had been stronger, he wouldn't have needed to get angry in order to ascend to the form, but the anger boost was what pushed him over the minimum power limit.
Or something like that. I don't really do "fanon" anymore, oddly enough.
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Bulma, with her corporate powers, started selling "The Super Saiyan" t-shirts to the mass public. The branding is only moderately successful.
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I personally think that Cold didn't have any transformed states..GT never happened. And King Cold was way stronger than Freeza and could have beaten Trunks if he had time to transform.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.
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I also think Dabura was the Dai MakaioshinDBZ Mick wrote:I personally think that Cold didn't have any transformed states..GT never happened. And King Cold was way stronger than Freeza and could have beaten Trunks if he had time to transform.
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I think he was a grade below that, more equal to the Supreme Kai(west,east,etc.)Polyphase Avatron wrote:I also think Dabura was the Dai MakaioshinDBZ Mick wrote:I personally think that Cold didn't have any transformed states..GT never happened. And King Cold was way stronger than Freeza and could have beaten Trunks if he had time to transform.