Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[TheMightyOzaru]

I think it's obvious that the x50 multiplier doesn't work for Goku anymore.

I don't think that to be the case at all. I think Goku was increasing in power as he fought Birusu and turned into a Ssj when he hit 50x what he powered down to.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I think it's obvious that the x50 multiplier doesn't work for Goku anymore.

I don't think that to be the case at all. I think Goku was increasing in power as he fought Birusu and turned into a Ssj when he hit 50x what he powered down to.

Well, that's just your theory. I believe that the SS increase got much smaller.

[B]

Are we still waiting on a couple interview translations, or do we have them all? Not to rush anyone, of course, but the onslaught of new stuff has mashed it all together in my mind; hard to remember what was already reported.

[VegettoEX]

Take "a couple" and multiple it by a bazillion .

There are tons of snippets from both the theatrical program and the movie's guide book, official website postings, Saikyo/V-Jump stuffage, etc.

And those are just the interviews...

[Gyt Kaliba]

Why do I get the feeling that about the time you guys get done translating all of the various stuffage for this movie, something new will be coming out...making you want to punch kittens.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

2/3 of the way there!
http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0052135

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

The line about Super Vegetto being perhaps stronger than SS4 Goku could have been retconned.

Well IMO nothing changes Vegetto's power, unless somebody really wants this to fit in with GT I can't see why his power would change. Also if the SSJ multiplier has changed doesnt that go against GT aswell?

[Chuquita]

2/3 of the way there!
http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0052135

2/3rds of the way at only a few weeks in sounds pretty good. I really hope they make their goal.

Still liking B/V's dual-arms-crossed-in distaste. X3

[alakazam^]

The line about Super Vegetto being perhaps stronger than SS4 Goku could have been retconned.

Where was this said?

[Polyphase Avatron]

My opinion on the relative strengths (these aren't power levels or kilis or anything, just showing the relative ratios of power between characters):

Whis: 1500
Bills 100%: 1000
Bills 70% (what he used fighting Goku): 700
SSJG Goku: 680
SSJ1 Goku w/SSJG power: 650
Vegeto SSJ2: 350
Vegeta enraged vs. Bills: 300
Vegeto SSJ1: 175

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Well IMO nothing changes Vegetto's power, unless somebody really wants this to fit in with GT I can't see why his power would change. Also if the SSJ multiplier has changed doesnt that go against GT aswell?

In GT, Goku just gets stronger when he goes Super Saiyan. Nothing that makes him, or doesn't make him 50 times stronger. Since Vegetto is said to be "perhaps" stronger than a Super Saiyan 4, not that Vegetto is stronger than a SS4. In the M13 Movie Guides, what was said about Ultimate Gohan was that "maybe he will never turn into a Super Saiyan again", or something similar, it doesn't say that Gohan will never turn into a Super Saiyan. Yet, assuming that BoG & GT take place in the same continuity, Goku gets stronger than Vegetto in BoG (and even stronger than that as a SS4 in GT), and Gohan turns into a Super Saiyan in both BoG & GT. So, it's proven that Vegetto is not stronger than a Super Saiyan 4, and Gohan can turn into a Super Saiyan.

The line about Super Vegetto being perhaps stronger than SS4 Goku could have been retconned.

Where was this said?

In the GT TV Special Animation Comic, there was a section that was talking about Vegetto, and that was stated.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

To me it wouldn't work, since he's perhaps stronger than a SSJ4 he's clearly above SSJ3 (Goku GT) and like I said before he's in the same ball park as a SSJ4, maybe not stronger, but he's up there so SSJ Goku (God) should be too. To fit with GT it would have to retcon Vegetto's power like you said, but at the moment it isn't following GT IMO unless something official says and/or shows otherwise.

[Draken]

And how can you state so confidently that SSJ4 is stronger than SSG? I mean the name kinda implies otherwise

[DBZGTKOSDH]

And how can you state so confidently that SSJ4 is stronger than SSG? I mean the name kinda implies otherwise

If everything with the name "god" was the strongest being, then Shenlong, Porunga, Kami, Dende, the 5 Kaio, the 5 Kaioshin, Beers, and SSG Goku should be stronger than everyone in the series, even stronger than Whis.

[Draken]

And how can you state so confidently that SSJ4 is stronger than SSG? I mean the name kinda implies otherwise

If everything with the name "god" was the strongest being, then Shenlong, Porunga, Kami, Dende, the 5 Kaio, the 5 Kaioshin, Beers, and SSG Goku should be stronger than everyone in the series, even stronger than Whis.

Gods stronger than gods work for me. Whis is the attendant of a god, who says he himself isn't a god? And we're comparing the same person with a different status. When you hear Spawn (dc comics) God form, and then just Spawn, who do you assume is stronger? Spawn God form. When you hear Superman, then Superman Prime (same stuff, God, Prime, we're talking more powerful forms), who do you assume is stronger? Prime. Also, I seriously doubt they'd randomly retcon Vegetto's strength so they'd fit into your GT power levels when they've already stated they're retconning GT. I'm gonna have to stick with the SSG>SSJ4 myself.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Whis is the attendant of a god, who says he himself isn't a god?

There is nothing about Whis being a god. Whis is to Beers what Mr. Popo is to Kami, and what Kibito was to Kaioshin, except that he is also Beers' martial arts master & stronger than him.

Also, I seriously doubt they'd randomly retcon Vegetto's strength so they'd fit into your GT power levels when they've already stated they're retconning GT. I'm gonna have to stick with the SSG>SSJ4 myself.

The statement about Vegetto > SS4 was in a product that is easy to miss. And they never said that they retconned GT. In an official announcement, they said that the movie takes place between DBZ & DBGT (though it's obvious that it's not exactly like that). Watanabe just said that he didn't care about GT, or something like that, not that they don't take place in the same continuity.

[Draken]

Whis is the attendant of a god, who says he himself isn't a god?

There is nothing about Whis being a god. Whis is to Beers what Mr. Popo is to Kami, and what Kibito was to Kaioshin, except that he is also Beers' martial arts master & stronger than him.

Also, I seriously doubt they'd randomly retcon Vegetto's strength so they'd fit into your GT power levels when they've already stated they're retconning GT. I'm gonna have to stick with the SSG>SSJ4 myself.

The statement about Vegetto > SS4 was in a product that is easy to miss. And they never said that they retconned GT. In an official announcement, they said that the movie takes place between DBZ & DBGT (though it's obvious that it's not exactly like that). Watanabe just said that he didn't care about GT, or something like that, not that they don't take place in the same continuity.

They're ignoring GT and putting stuff into the manga continuity, they're not going to go through all this effort to make sure Goku as a god is weaker than SSJ4. I think Goku at the end of GT would then be like AW YEA TIME TO GO REMATCH WITH BILS AND WHIS.

[VegettoEX]

It's also never stated that Appule is not a carpenter.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

They're ignoring GT and putting stuff into the manga continuity, they're not going to go through all this effort to make sure Goku as a god is weaker than SSJ4. I think Goku at the end of GT would then be like AW YEA TIME TO GO REMATCH WITH BILS AND WHIS.

They are ignoring GT & put stuff in the manga continuity because the movie takes place before GT & during the manga time-frame. The rest are your opinion.

It's also never stated that Appule is not a carpenter.

Just curious... Why do you have Appule as an example all the time?

[songohan619]

They're ignoring GT and putting stuff into the manga continuity, they're not going to go through all this effort to make sure Goku as a god is weaker than SSJ4. I think Goku at the end of GT would then be like AW YEA TIME TO GO REMATCH WITH BILS AND WHIS.

They are ignoring GT & put stuff in the manga continuity because the movie takes place before GT & during the manga time-frame. The rest are your opinion.

It's also never stated that Appule is not a carpenter.

Just curious... Why do you have Appule as an example all the time?

Old Podcast joke.