How strong is Fusion dance multiplier

[shonenhikada]

I remember a scan a few years back about fusion dance being several times stornger, than both users powers combine. Is this still holds true, and does anyone know where it is ?

[TheMightyOzaru]

There isn't an official one. I think A + B x 10

[FNF]

Yeah, I remember the scan saying 'several/many times stronger'. It was a picture of SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goten fusing into SSJ Gotenks. Can't provide a link though...

[Polyphase Avatron]

It probably depends on how well they match up in terms of power and physical characteristics and such.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

I agree with TheMightyOzaru, any more than A + B x 10 would be too much for Gotenks IMO, and that's probably the perfect fusion dance result.

[Hitiro]

I think (A + B) x 10 seems a bit high. Considering if we assume Boohan is roughly 2 SSJ3 Goku's level of power, minimum, then the base power needed for Vegetto to fight against Boohan on par in SSJ would be 16x Goku's base. So if we were saying Vegetto was only on par with Boohan then the potara equation would be (A + B) x 8. So I'd maybe say for the fusion dance it would be (A + B) x 4 or x 6.

[Kaboom]

The most detail we really have is that it's "much stronger than the sum of the parts" from the manga, and one or two already-pointed-out other sources have cited it as being multiple times stronger than either individual alone. A source for GT noted that SSj4 Gogeta was "tens of times" stronger than SSj4 Goku or Vegeta, too. And that's just for the Fusion Dance.

I think trying to buckle down any specific constant multiplier for either Fusion method is mostly futile. There could be other factors aside from simply the two fusers' power that plays into the result.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

I think (A + B) x 10 seems a bit high. Considering if we assume Boohan is roughly 2 SSJ3 Goku's level of power, minimum, then the base power needed for Vegetto to fight against Boohan on par in SSJ would be 16x Goku's base. So if we were saying Vegetto was only on par with Boohan then the potara equation would be (A + B) x 8. So I'd maybe say for the fusion dance it would be (A + B) x 4 or x 6.

I don't think Boohan was 2 SSJ3's, hell, IMO Gohan was 15-20 x stronger than SSJ3 Goku, Boohan is about 30x stronger than Goku, if Boo's form work as addition that is.

I'd say Goten and Trunks are just over a quarter as strong as Goku, so I would put it like this.
Goku = 100
SSJ = 5000
SSJ2 = 10,000
SSJ3 = 40,000
Goten & Trunks (pre RoSaT) = 30
Gotenks = 30 + 30 x 10 = 600 x 50 (SSJ) = 30,000

I believe that Goku was only using just over half his power against Good Boo, so SSJ Gotenks (pre) was enough to beat Good Boo. I might've put Goten and Trunks a bit too low, and I should've put Trunks a bit higher than Goten too (i'm too lazy to do that ), but you probably get why I follow that formula.

[FNF]

I think trying to buckle down any specific constant multiplier for either Fusion method is mostly futile. There could be other factors aside from simply the two fusers' power that plays into the result.

More to the point, AT didn't think along those lines while drawing the manga.

[RandomGuy96]

With the statements in the guidebooks that fusion is more than a x10 multiplier, I currently have it as a x50 multiplier... for the weaker fusee. The difference with potara is that it adds the fusee's powers and then multiplies it, while fusion only mutliplies one power- the power both fusees are at at the time of fusion. I like this because it fits well with Fusion Dance requiring the two fusees to be exactly equal while potara works regardless. The multiplier also gets bigger the closer the two fusees are in power for potara, explaining why Kibito Kai isn't stronger than Kid Buu.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I think (A + B) x 10 seems a bit high. Considering if we assume Boohan is roughly 2 SSJ3 Goku's level of power, minimum, then the base power needed for Vegetto to fight against Boohan on par in SSJ would be 16x Goku's base. So if we were saying Vegetto was only on par with Boohan then the potara equation would be (A + B) x 8. So I'd maybe say for the fusion dance it would be (A + B) x 4 or x 6.

Here is where I have everyone:
SSJ3 Goku: 40,000,000,000
Gotenks: 18,000,000 + 18,000,000 x 10 = 360,000,000
SSJ Gotenks: 18,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gotenks: 144,000,000,000
Evil Buu: 140,000,000,000
Buuhan: 341,336,500,000
Vegetto: 1,000,000,000,000
Super Vegetto: 50,000,000,000,000
Gogeta: 100,000,000 + 100,000,000 x 100 = 20,000,000,000, Gogeta is the exception to the rule, I have him at A + B x 100 because they are rivals and I feel all fusions should be stronger if the result is comprised of 2 rivals.
Super Gogeta: 1,000,000,000,000