Horrible Racism in the Big Green Dub?

[Nikkolas]

"Big Green had perished. Vejituh, Yamcha, Tenshin and Klirin - they had survived."

So because Piccolo doesn't look human he can die while all the "humans" can live despite all logic saying they died?

I've seen vids of the BG dub and apart from being comically bad, I never cared much about it. But this...this is just wrong.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

dude,
it was one of many mistakes, chill.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

Frankly I'm more amazed how they missed everyone but Piccolo's dying.

[VegettoEX]

dude,
it was one of many mistakes, chill.

Please don't tell someone to "chill" when they bring up a legitimate question. You can do a variety of things: explain what the mistake was, how it might have been made, why you think it was made, in this case if you think there's any actual racism happening, etc... but there's no reason to basically call for an end to the conversation in such a relatively-rude way. If you don't actually have something to add, it's best to not post in the first place.

[The Tori-bot]

Racism... against whom?

[B]

It's possible that was some weird form of censorship, but Namekians aren't real.

[sonikku956]

Don't you mean species-ism?

Unless Namekians and humans/Saiyans can have kids with each other...

[Zidiane]

Are you serious? What is this. Come on now.

First off, I'm pretty sure the Real Life Narrator/writer of that scene isn't Racist against a fictional race. I mean... Well, yeah. That.

Second off, what kind of dub is that? It's horrible. The Narrator sounds like he was reading whatever they wrote for him, however they wrote it (hes sounds like earlier he read a sentence in need of commas), and someone wrote "Had" instead of "Hadn't". Typo. Most likely. A lot more likely than Racism.

[Zidiane]

Don't you mean species-ism?

Unless Namekians and humans/Saiyans can have kids with each other...

Well, Humans and saiyans, races that come from across the galaxy, can have children. People forget that they really should be different species. They weren't even from the same planet. And since Nameks don't have children with each other and instead spit up eggs...

[Nikkolas]

Perhaps racism wasn't the correct word but there is some sort of discrimination going on there that isn't appropriate. You see this kind of thing somewhat often in anime actually. If anyone here watches or reads Bleach, the character of Komamura (a humanoid dog) can be shown having more violence done unto him than the other "humans" do.

I feel it must be the same for this dub. Piccolo, the only obviously non-human character, can get killed while the rest of them survive.

[Insertclevername]

Racism... against whom?

Namekians, apparently.

[Big Momma]

You're reading way too much into this. It's just another inaccuracy among the Big-Green archives.

[Gonstead]

You're reading way too much into this. It's just another inaccuracy among the Big-Green archives.

Indeed. This dub is notorious for terrible scripting problems, so anything that may be said that seems "wrong" is basically chalked up to a badly translated script.

[dbboxkaifan]

Racism against green people? And I thought hating the blue people from Pocahontas by James Cameron was bad enough.

The narrator as quoted: ""Big Green had perished. Vejita, Yamucha, Tenshin and Cleerin they had survived." don't see racism here, just surprised Yamucha and Cleerin for once survived, that's an accomplishment for them!

[Super Sayian Prime]

Yeah, that's not racism ... That's either a mistake, or a form of censorship. Are people allowed to die in the Big Green dub? If not, then it was a form of censorship. Piccolo was allowed to die because he's not a human. Much akin to how it's okay for Shredder to be decapitated because he's not a person but you can't show a human bleed on a 4kid's show.

[Big Green]

All of these script errors just make me want to buy one of the Big Green dub movies even more!

[TheBlackPaladin]

I have long suspected for a number of reasons that the scripts in the Big Green dub were based on the French dub scripts, and that the dubbing materials used for the Big Green dub were the masters used for the French dub. This has never been officially confirmed, but there's so much evidence that that's the case that it might as well be. However, I can officially add another piece of evidence to the pile: after looking at that video, it would appear that the title card has the following text added beneath the original Japanese text: "L'Historie de Trunk."

[omegalucas]

I have long suspected for a number of reasons that the scripts in the Big Green dub were based on the French dub scripts, and that the dubbing materials used for the Big Green dub were the masters used for the French dub. This has never been officially confirmed, but there's so much evidence that that's the case that it might as well be. However, I can officially add another piece of evidence to the pile: after looking at that video, it would appear that the title card has the following text added beneath the original Japanese text: "L'Historie de Trunk."

Yeah, and he says pretty much the same thing that is said in the Portuguese dub (that was based on the French) minus the typo that caused this thread.

[Puto]

I have long suspected for a number of reasons that the scripts in the Big Green dub were based on the French dub scripts, and that the dubbing materials used for the Big Green dub were the masters used for the French dub.

That is absolutely blatant. Doesn't matter if it was never 'officially confirmed' because it's bleedingly obvious to anybody who knows the French dub.