The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Kamiccolo9]

The new movie doesn't really have any baring here, unless you say the other movies do too. Also, I recall that 2008 special having base Trunks kicking the crap out of someone who was stronger than Freeza.

The new movie was made to fit the manga, unlike the others. And Tarble never specified which form of Freeza they were as strong as. Seeing as his first form was the only one known to the galaxy at large, it's entirely possible he was stating that they were as strong as Freeza's first form.

[RandomGuy96]

The new movie was made to fit the manga, unlike the others

So?

And Tarble never specified which form of Freeza they were as strong as. Seeing as his first form was the only one known to the galaxy at large, it's entirely possible he was stating that they were as strong as Freeza's first form.

If that were true, there wouldn't have been a fight.

[Bussani]

I recall the guides saying that base Trunks was on par with 18 though.

It says that Trunks/the kids displayed strength on par with #18 during their fight, but a) that doesn't necessarily mean #18 was going all out with them at the time, and b) I don't even know what that guide's talking about, because they couldn't lay a finger on #18 during that fight. Certainly didn't look like they displayed anything on par with her to me.

[Kaboom]

Also it's kind of vague about whether they mean base or Super Saiyan Trunks.

[Kamiccolo9]

The new movie was made to fit the manga, unlike the others

So?

And Tarble never specified which form of Freeza they were as strong as. Seeing as his first form was the only one known to the galaxy at large, it's entirely possible he was stating that they were as strong as Freeza's first form.

If that were true, there wouldn't have been a fight.

So it's not really comparable to the other movies, which are more of "what-if" stories.

If I recall correctly, there wasn't much of a fight, at least not until they fused.

[Draken]

Eh, it's kinda hard for me to believe Trunks and Goten were only at 1st form Frieza's level in base =/. That's 1/6th the weakest known SSJ base level and they got very strong training in the RoSaT.

So it's not really comparable to the other movies, which are more of "what-if" stories.

If I recall correctly, there wasn't much of a fight, at least not until they fused.

It is actually, because they specifically stated this was not a movie like the rest. Not a "side story" or "spin off", but something you can actually put into the real timeline.

[Kamiccolo9]

Eh, it's kinda hard for me to believe Trunks and Goten were only at 1st form Freeza's level in base =/. That's 1/6th the weakest known SSJ base level and they got very strong training in the RoSaT.

So it's not really comparable to the other movies, which are more of "what-if" stories.

If I recall correctly, there wasn't much of a fight, at least not until they fused.

It is actually, because they specifically stated this was not a movie like the rest. Not a "side story" or "spin off", but something you can actually put into the real timeline.

I don't remember the 2008 special all that well, but weren't Trunks and Goten dominating that fight in base before Ava and Kado fused? And it's completely in character for them to hold themselves back to play around with an opponent.

[Kaboom]

From what I remember, the kids were having some difficulty at first just because their fighting skills were rusty from 2 years of disuse. But as soon as they got back into form, the tables were turned and Avo and Cado got their asses kicked.

[Draken]

Eh, it's kinda hard for me to believe Trunks and Goten were only at 1st form Freeza's level in base =/. That's 1/6th the weakest known SSJ base level and they got very strong training in the RoSaT.

So it's not really comparable to the other movies, which are more of "what-if" stories.

If I recall correctly, there wasn't much of a fight, at least not until they fused.

It is actually, because they specifically stated this was not a movie like the rest. Not a "side story" or "spin off", but something you can actually put into the real timeline.

I don't remember the 2008 special all that well, but weren't Trunks and Goten dominating that fight in base before Ava and Kado fused? And it's completely in character for them to hold themselves back to play around with an opponent.

At 6 times stronger they should be either playing with their dead carcasses 3 seconds in or suppressing themselves like crazy the whole fight. But they were, as Kaboom said, originally even having difficulty. Skill alone at 6x stronger shouldn't make a difference.

[Kamiccolo9]

Point taken. Still, there's no reason to assume that they are as strong as 100% Freeza.

[SaintGabriel77]

Who would win in a fight: Legendary Super Saiyan Broly or Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta? I think it would be pretty cool to see either way.

[RandomGuy96]

Broly gets demolished by Pan while Gogeta laughs.

Alternatively, Gogeta laughs for thirty minutes straight, defuses, and Broly gets demolished by base kid Goku even worse than Cell.

[Kamiccolo9]

Broly is nothing to any of GT. SSJ4 Gogeta is just the most severe amount of overkill.

[RandomGuy96]

A better question would be who could Broly actually beat in GT? Cell was already stronger than him and implied to get a lot stronger in Hell, along with Freeza. So strong that they take on Goku despite knowing how strong Rildo is. That puts them both way beyond Ultimate Gohan tier. Piccolo would also demolish Broly, since he shrugged off Ultimate Gohan's Kamehameha (x50) and presumably had to fight Rildo and Cell to gain control of Hell. Then there's old man Krillin, who actually landed a hit on base Goku, suggesting he's in a similar plane of power, which is way stronger than Kid Buu, who is way stronger than Broly.

[MDSTSSJ]

Who would win in a fight: Legendary Super Saiyan Broly or Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta? I think it would be pretty cool to see either way.

SSJ4 Gogeta kill Broly with one finger!!

SSJ4 Kakarotto Kill Broly with one punch!!

Let´s continue with this Saiyan:

Broly movie 8 Vs Full Power SSJ Kakarotto

[RandomGuy96]

Broly loses badly against Buu Saga FPSS Goku.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Broly get's his shit rocked by SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Super Perfect Cell, SSJ4 Gogeta would atomize him with a look.

[MDSTSSJ]

Broly Movie 10 Vs Majin Vegeta

Broly was near death so he had a power up thanks to zenkai.

[RandomGuy96]

Broly's not that far away in power, but Vegeta would still dominate, because Broly's just a dumb brute who has no tactics besides "tank it and smash shit", which would go badly against someone stronger than him. Also, in Movie 11, it was said that SS2 Goku and Pikkon beat him.

[TheMightyOzaru]

SSJ2 Kid Gohan still rocks Broly's shit so Majin Vegeta rocks it harder. This where I have the peoples:
SSJ2 Kid Gohan: 9,000,000,000
LSSJ Broly: 8,000,000,000+
Majin Vegeta: 10,000,000,000