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Was there once a moment in the Dragonball Franchise when you wanted to stop watching the series completely?
I have. I remember in Dragonball I wanted to stop watching after Goku lose to Tien. I was pissed because I thought the series was going to make it seem like that Goku was going to train and get stronger but every tournament he'll lose in the finals. But then I skimmed through the manga and it turns out he won so I continue reading the manga and watching the anime in a local anime store in South Korea. In dragonball Z where Vegeta blow himself up and Buu still lived. I was pissed and I mean pissed.
I mean what happened afterwards was Goku turning ssj3 out of the blue and made Vegeta seem weak. Not only was Goku holding back but Vegeta failed not once but twice at during something heroic. I just gave up for a whole 2 years of no DB. Then DBGT came in the Super 17 saga and I just quit. Were there every moments where DB just pissed you offer wanted to make you stop.
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I stopped watching for a few years after the Garlic Jr. Arc. That abomination was like a punch in the face after the Freeza Arc, and I couldn't stand it anymore. I finally got back into it when Toonami started airing the Buu Arc, and I've been back in ever since.
My girlfriend couldn't stand the Namek/Freeza arc in the anime, though. We had to switch to the manga to get through it. She also started to lose interest in the late Cell arc, only for it to increase and hold through the entire Boo arc, which was her favorite.
I started with DBZ when I played Budokai 1 at a friends house. I then lost track of DBZ Franchise at some point in my childhood, though I don't remember why (probably dbz burnout or nothing new with DBZ). For some reason Sonic (most likely has to do with Super Sonic filling the SSJ spot) filled the missing void of DBZ for a while until I rediscovered DBZ again (don't remember how but I think it had something to do with the Freeza Saga). I never left the franchise again, but I lost my love of the Sonic franchise until Clement got me to liking Sonic again. Now DBZ is #1, but I have a love for the Sonic games since i bought the adventure titles and generations after watching his playthroughs.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Around where GT started airing. I think GT aired at an earlier time than Z did, and I lost interest because I had to get up earlier than I was used to in order to watch it. The popularity at school also died around this time, so that contributed to it.
I got back into it briefly in high school due to falling for AF rumours and reading those terrible false scripts online, before falling out again and coming back through the video games.
I'm re-watching Dragon Ball GT in full on my blog. Check it out if you're interested in my thoughts on the series as I watch through it!
My girlfriend couldn't stand the Namek/Freeza arc in the anime, though. We had to switch to the manga to get through it. She also started to lose interest in the late Cell arc, only for it to increase and hold through the entire Boo arc, which was her favorite.
Your girlfriend is out of her mind! The Freeza and Cell arcs were awesome!
Saiga wrote:Around where GT started airing. I think GT aired at an earlier time than Z did, and I lost interest because I had to get up earlier than I was used to in order to watch it. The popularity at school also died around this time, so that contributed to it.
I got back into it briefly in high school due to falling for AF rumours and reading those terrible false scripts online, before falling out again and coming back through the video games.
You actually fell for AF rumors in High school? Were you not very smart back then?
Saiga wrote:Around where GT started airing. I think GT aired at an earlier time than Z did, and I lost interest because I had to get up earlier than I was used to in order to watch it. The popularity at school also died around this time, so that contributed to it.
I got back into it briefly in high school due to falling for AF rumours and reading those terrible false scripts online, before falling out again and coming back through the video games.
You actually fell for AF rumors in High school? Were you not very smart back then?
There were a lot of smart people who fell for AF. Wishful thinking and a good story can work wonders.
Saiga wrote:Around where GT started airing. I think GT aired at an earlier time than Z did, and I lost interest because I had to get up earlier than I was used to in order to watch it. The popularity at school also died around this time, so that contributed to it.
I got back into it briefly in high school due to falling for AF rumours and reading those terrible false scripts online, before falling out again and coming back through the video games.
You actually fell for AF rumors in High school? Were you not very smart back then?
There were a lot of smart people who fell for AF. Wishful thinking and a good story can work wonders.
I wouldn't speak for everyone it was easy to tell, some of the drawings were amateur, the real obvious scenario was the fact that Dragonball Z is the last letter in the alphabet, as AT notes.
Um, the next series was called Dragonball GT, so the Z comment shouldn't really matter.
And I'm not speaking for everybody, but I personally know numerous intelligent people who wanted to believe that Dragonball AF was true, and wishful thinking can have a strong effect on people.
On Toonami they would play all the episodes they had then return back to the first ones until they got new ones, after the Garlic Jr. Saga they went back to Raditz so I stopped for a while.
Saiga wrote:Around where GT started airing. I think GT aired at an earlier time than Z did, and I lost interest because I had to get up earlier than I was used to in order to watch it. The popularity at school also died around this time, so that contributed to it.
I got back into it briefly in high school due to falling for AF rumours and reading those terrible false scripts online, before falling out again and coming back through the video games.
You actually fell for AF rumors in High school? Were you not very smart back then?
Hey let's be honest. We all fell victim to AF rumors. Don't need to hide it .
I wanted to stop watching around the middle of the Buu saga. There were a lot elements introduced that didn't go anywhere and it was getting aggravating. Like SSJ3 Goku, Gotenks, and "Mystic" Gohan. After Vegetto separated I pretty tuned out for the rest of the saga.
Filler throughout the Saiyan and Freeza arcs can go die. Gohan VS Cell was a little long in the anime. The Monster of the Week format for the Evil Dragon arc in GT was another misstep that I didn't see the remaining episodes after they deal with the Four-Star Dragon for a good while.
As for if there was ever a part of the story I just could not tolerate anymore, no. I bag on the Namek shenanigans before the Ginyu Force arrives a lot, but it's not drop-the-series bad.
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TheGmGoken wrote:Hey let's be honest. We all fell victim to AF rumors. Don't need to hide it .
Not me. I actually thought most things were hoaxes, like my friend telling me that Sirius was the final boss in Bomberman 64, and things like the Lavender Town ghost's identity in Pokemon Red/Blue, and a friend who told me lots about the Japanese version of Dragon Ball. Course, most of the stuff I thought were lies turned out to be true.
The aformentioned friend and some others tried to make me fall for a "AF" sorta hoax, but it was that Freeza comes back in GT, kills Vegeta again, and then Vegeta tells Goku that he's actually his brother, then Goku in rage turns SS5. I, by that point already read stuff on the internet, so I knew it was all fake from the beginning, and that was especially obvious regardless.
"Kenshi is sitting down right now drawing his mutated spaghetti monsters thinking he's the shit..."--Neptune Kai "90% of you here don't even know what you're talking about (there are a few that do). But the things you say about these releases are nonsense and just plain dumb. Like you Metalwario64"--final_flash
TheGmGoken wrote:Hey let's be honest. We all fell victim to AF rumors. Don't need to hide it .
Not me. I actually thought most things were hoaxes, like my friend telling me that Sirius was the final boss in Bomberman 64, and things like the Lavender Town ghost's identity in Pokemon Red/Blue, and a friend who told me lots about the Japanese version of Dragon Ball. Course, most of the stuff I thought were lies turned out to be true.
The aformentioned friend and some others tried to make me fall for a "AF" sorta hoax, but it was that Freeza comes back in GT, kills Vegeta again, and then Vegeta tells Goku that he's actually his brother, then Goku in rage turns SS5. I, by that point already read stuff on the internet, so I knew it was all fake from the beginning, and that was especially obvious regardless.
Excuse my language please. But what the **** kinda AF rumors you heard lol. I never heard that one. I would't have believe that either. The ones most people heard was much more realistic for DB.
Mid-way through Dragon Ball GT. It's not like an specific episode pissed me off or anything like that though. I found myself gradually starting to care less about it. Sometimes I'd forget to watch it on time, or remembering to watch it, but choosing to do something else instead. I almost had to force myself to watch some episodes, since I knew it was the last part of Dragon Ball, and I'm glad I did because the last episode was really worth it.
Still, had Dragon Ball GT been longer then 64 episodes, say like 100 or something, I may have stopped watching it completely. Even now, I only remember a few episodes of GT, most of it is one big blur
Yes, Goku visited me once. He turned to me while I was still speechless, and said, "You've drank too much"...
Never, to be honest. I just never had that feeling of tuning out. Maybe nowadays if I'm re watching some stuff but that's only because of my shitty patience.
Cipher wrote:Also, you can seriously like whatever and still get laid. That's a revelation that'll hit you at some point.
The Freeza and Cell arcs were awesome! 
