Buu Saga Info

[dbzfan7]

Why did this become about teleporting? Still better then the church of Goku.

Haha, well, anything's better than Super Buu vs Pure Buu debates

I agree. I am sick and tired of the Church of Goku. Though the teleporting debate is actually interesting.

[Kamiccolo9]

Why did this become about teleporting? Still better then the church of Goku.

Haha, well, anything's better than Super Buu vs Pure Buu debates

I agree. I am sick and tired of the Church of Goku. Though the teleporting debate is actually interesting.

I think so to. What are your opinions on it?

[dbzfan7]

I think so to. What are your opinions on it?

Teleporting you mean?

[Kamiccolo9]

I think so to. What are your opinions on it?

Teleporting you mean?

Yep.

[dbzfan7]

I think so to. What are your opinions on it?

Teleporting you mean?

Yep.

I like both sides. Kid Boo seemed to pick up Kaioshins technique. But how can he find Goku and Vegeta without sensing there ki. Perhaps he remembered the Kaioshin area by looking at Kaioshin teleport Goku and Vegeta away. But it was never shown in the manga they even fought on the kaioshin planet. Even if they did Kid Boo would have to remember exactly where they were. Also the gods have superior sight and can see around the universe if I recall. But they woud have to sense out an individual person if they weren't told where that person was before teleporting. I can't really answer the question. It really comes down to if Bibidi and Boo sought out the Kaioshin or if the Kaioshin went after Boo. The latter makes more sense honestly. But I'm not sure Bibidi knew of the Kaioshins existence. I'm confused.

[Kamiccolo9]

Haha, yeah, it's kinda confusing. I've honestly been keeping notes

[dbzfan7]

Haha, yeah, it's kinda confusing. I've honestly been keeping notes

I'll go with the Toriyama answer of I don't know.

[Amuro Ray]

Ridiculousness all around - again - ONLY use quotes/info provided to us from the guidebooks/manga/anime but some people find that impossible to do because the story doesn't "work" in their favor when they are forced to do things that way.

[Kamiccolo9]

Ridiculousness all around - again - ONLY use quotes/info provided to us from the guidebooks/manga/anime but some people find that impossible to do because the story doesn't "work" in their favor when they are forced to do things that way.

Do you have anything to contribute, or are you just here to complain?

[dbzfan7]

Ridiculousness all around - again - ONLY use quotes/info provided to us from the guidebooks/manga/anime but some people find that impossible to do because the story doesn't "work" in their favor when they are forced to do things that way.

Do you have anything to contribute, or are you just here to complain?

Only at your local Church of Goku.

[Bussani]

I think Buu can just look and find them. He doesn't have to sense , although he can do that too. I don't think Kibito requires sensing to teleport. Kaioshin doesn't seem to worry about the Namekians low level of chi.

That's right, because he was just teleporting to Namek. He knew where he was going, and could get there whether there were Namekians there or not. But if you told him to teleport to, say, Tarble, and he didn't know who Tarble was or where he was currently located, he'd be a bit stuck, you know? He'd have to figure out where he was before he could go there. If he knew what planet Tarble was on, of course, then he could go there without sensing his ki or anything.

[Draken]

Ridiculousness all around - again - ONLY use quotes/info provided to us from the guidebooks/manga/anime but some people find that impossible to do because the story doesn't "work" in their favor when they are forced to do things that way.

It's funny because that's exactly what we're doing

Back on track here, I agree that Buu finding his way to the planet of Kai's is weird. I personally am probably going to go with the path that SSJ3 tier is the only thing that can be felt easily and overwhelmingly, when you're not trying to find someone. After all, Namekians are definitely not SSJ3 tier and Goku could find them with difficulty. But SSJ3 is when just about anyone sensitive to ki can feel it even when they're not looking for it. Like you can hear a small bird chirp if you're quiet and are trying to hear it, but a big explosion is something anyone within a certain radius will hear.

[Kamiccolo9]

Ridiculousness all around - again - ONLY use quotes/info provided to us from the guidebooks/manga/anime but some people find that impossible to do because the story doesn't "work" in their favor when they are forced to do things that way.

It's funny because that's exactly what we're doing

Back on track here, I agree that Buu finding his way to the planet of Kai's is weird. I personally am probably going to go with the path that SSJ3 tier is the only thing that can be felt easily and overwhelmingly, when you're not trying to find someone. After all, Namekians are definitely not SSJ3 tier and Goku could find them with difficulty. But SSJ3 is when just about anyone sensitive to ki can feel it even when they're not looking for it. Like you can hear a small bird chirp if you're quiet and are trying to hear it, but a big explosion is something anyone within a certain radius will hear.

I agree. Also, I feel that the reason no one sensed Super Buu was because Goku's SSJ3 was almost literally gushing ki. Buu was stronger, but he had his ki under control. It's kinda like they are both sound systems. Goku is smaller but the volume is up higher, while Buu is larger but the volume is low.
Analogies FTW!

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

I'm still amazed that nobody besides Super Boo sensed Gohan power up, they didn't even sense him when he was on earth until he was close.

[Kamiccolo9]

I'm still amazed that nobody, besides super Boo, sensed Gohan power up, they didn't even sense him when he was on earth until he was close.

Well, they were kinda distracted Buu had 30 minutes where he just sat there on the lookout; I imagine that's when he started sensing Gohan.

[Draken]

Ridiculousness all around - again - ONLY use quotes/info provided to us from the guidebooks/manga/anime but some people find that impossible to do because the story doesn't "work" in their favor when they are forced to do things that way.

It's funny because that's exactly what we're doing

Back on track here, I agree that Buu finding his way to the planet of Kai's is weird. I personally am probably going to go with the path that SSJ3 tier is the only thing that can be felt easily and overwhelmingly, when you're not trying to find someone. After all, Namekians are definitely not SSJ3 tier and Goku could find them with difficulty. But SSJ3 is when just about anyone sensitive to ki can feel it even when they're not looking for it. Like you can hear a small bird chirp if you're quiet and are trying to hear it, but a big explosion is something anyone within a certain radius will hear.

I agree. Also, I feel that the reason no one sensed Super Buu was because Goku's SSJ3 was almost literally gushing ki. Buu was stronger, but he had his ki under control. It's kinda like they are both sound systems. Goku is smaller but the volume is up higher, while Buu is larger but the volume is low.
Analogies FTW!

You know me, I love using analogies . Makes things clearer and it's funny watching some people's *cough* reactions.

One thing I just realized (back to the main argument of this thread) I remember someone on the Super Buu > Pure Buu side saying Pure Buu powered up after Buff Buu, then powered up even MORE when he spit out Good Buu. (because, for some reason, though Good Buu was no longer in his pod, his being inside magically telepathically generated the greatest Kaioshin influence ever shown in any Buu and heavily restricting Buu) Our argument against this was no one pointed out the drastic increase in power they claim happened. And now they're trying to do the same thing, we say Super Buu powered up drastically after transforming from Fat Buu (which was actually stated) and they say "nope, it wasn't much because no one pointed it out". Oh the contradictions.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

@Kamiccolo
It was a hell of a lot of power though, IMO he was like 15-20x stronger than SSJ3 Goku. I understand the Kaioshin realm part a bit, but not sensing him on earth is quite amazing!

[Kamiccolo9]

@Kamiccolo
It was a hell of a lot of power though, IMO he was like 15-20x stronger than SSJ3 Goku. I understand the Kaioshin realm part a bit, but not sensing him on earth is quite amazing!

Well, like I said a few posts above, the reason they sensed SSJ3 Goku was because he was basically broadcasting his power. Gohan wasn't bleeding off ki like Goku was; his was under control.

You know me, I love using analogies . Makes things clearer and it's funny watching some people's *cough* reactions.

One thing I just realized (back to the main argument of this thread) I remember someone on the Super Buu > Pure Buu side saying Pure Buu powered up after Buff Buu, then powered up even MORE when he spit out Good Buu. (because, for some reason, though Good Buu was no longer in his pod, his being inside magically telepathically generated the greatest Kaioshin influence ever shown in any Buu and heavily restricting Buu) Our argument against this was no one pointed out the drastic increase in power they claim happened. And now they're trying to do the same thing, we say Super Buu powered up drastically after transforming from Fat Buu (which was actually stated) and they say "nope, it wasn't much because no one pointed it out". Oh the contradictions.

Anything but that! No, but I really despise this particular topic. It's come up at least three times in the past couple of weeks, and it just degenerates into bad feelings all around. I personally find this teleporting thing to be far more interesting. At least there we have ground that hasn't been troden over a million times by now.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Super Boo managed to from so far away, and it's implied that he even felt the power up before it was complete, yet on earth they still don't notice him, but in-universe there isn't many ways around it besides what you said. It's strange how they notice Super Boo's ki when he escapes the RoSaT, I guess they were searching for it that time then or something.

[Kamiccolo9]

Super Boo managed to from so far away, and it's implied that he even felt the power up before it was complete, yet on earth they still don't notice him, but in-universe there isn't many ways around it besides what you said. It's strange how they notice Super Boo's ki when he escapes the RoSaT, I guess they were searching for it that time then or something.

Well, a big hole was ripped in time and space. I imagine that that calls attention to itself I actually don't have that volume of the manga on me right now though, so I can't check.