What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

WesMan23 · Post by **WesMan23** » Tue May 07, 2013 9:44 pm

Instead of an anime, just made as a typical American animated series? Do you think it would be "anime-esque" like Avatar: The Last Airbender, or more of a typical cartoon? I'd like to think if it was purely an American creation, they would at least make it in an anime style, and keep some of the shonen feel to it, rather than "cartoonify" it and turn it into a complete gag. It could be an interesting take on the series.

jpdbzrulz4sure · Post by **jpdbzrulz4sure** » Tue May 07, 2013 9:54 pm

Definitely keep the anime look, mainly 'cause I can't really imagine Dragon Ball without it.

I'd be all for an American-made take on Dragon Ball as long as it's kept to the core of what Dragon Ball is, with no FUNi dub influence whatsoever.

Makaioshin · Post by **Makaioshin** » Tue May 07, 2013 10:06 pm

If they made an American DB cartoon based of the original manga or just if DB was originally an American cartoon? If it is the latter then I guess it would be more like a typical 80's cartoon with villains of the week and all that. Maybe the characters wouldn't age like they did either.

Captain-Sora · Post by **Captain-Sora** » Tue May 07, 2013 10:17 pm

jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:Definitely keep the anime look, mainly 'cause I can't really imagine Dragon Ball without it.

Yeah, although I imagine they'd use a more rounded look akin to the older art styles of the show rather than the later designs to avoid having the characters look a bit too rigid.

When I think of an American animated Dragon Ball, what I'd be most excited to see is if they retained the general look of the series, but still utilized Full Animation instead of the limited style we see used in anime productions. Dragon Ball animated with great fluidity and intricate character animation/body language with full movement? Yes please!

OutlawTorn · Post by **OutlawTorn** » Tue May 07, 2013 10:29 pm

WesMan23 wrote:Instead of an anime, just made as a typical American animated series?

It would be very different, to say the least. I highly doubt it would have followed the Japanese model of simply adapting the manga, but would have told an entirely different story. Had it been successful, given that American broadcasters tend to be pretty finicky and, no matter how good a show many be they will give it the axe if they don't get instant ratings, it wouldn't have anywhere near the bulk of episodes the anime ended up with and it probably would have turned out more like Kai with filler at a bare minimum in comparison.

The overall feel would depend on how it was produced. Let's take Sonic for an example here: would it be like the cartoony "Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" which was produced with a bulk 65 episodes and maybe run two seasons, or would it be more continuity-based like Sonic SatAM with 13 episodes per season? The actors, on the other hand, would have been paid better as pre-lay pays better than ADR so there may have been fewer re-casts.

All in all, it's difficult to gauge what Dragon Ball would have become had it been an American franchise rather than Japanese.

dbzfan7 · Post by **dbzfan7** » Tue May 07, 2013 10:41 pm

No thanks. I can't imagine Dragon Ball as an american cartoon (though a lot of english fans treat it as if it were).

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Wed May 08, 2013 1:24 am

The fight scenes and music wouldn't really be any good, so I wouldn't be interested.

Gonstead · Post by **Gonstead** » Wed May 08, 2013 1:39 am

JulieYBM wrote:The fight scenes and music wouldn't really be any good, so I wouldn't be interested.

But we wouldn't know that now, would we?

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Wed May 08, 2013 1:45 am

dbzfan7 wrote:No thanks. I can't imagine Dragon Ball as an american cartoon (though a lot of english fans treat it as if it were).

Not trying to start anything but what do you mean ''though a lot of english fans treat it as if it were'' I don't understand? is there a special way were supposed to treat Cartoons made in another country? I mean I understand how some Dub fans get a little crazy every now and then on places like Youtube but I don't understand how they treat it like an american cartoon?
And this isn't aimed at you but what's the real difference between Anime and a Cartoon? One is drawn better than the other? I have a couple anime series and I honestly don't know how to explain to anyone that asks me ''What's the difference?'' So I just call Dragonball and any other show a Cartoon lol Or does the word Anime point out Japanese animation?

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Wed May 08, 2013 1:49 am

Gonstead wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:The fight scenes and music wouldn't really be any good, so I wouldn't be interested.
But we wouldn't know that now, would we?

No, but based on everything American TV animation has done up until now I don't really see either impressing were such a hypothetical series to come about. Yeah, fights animated twenty years ago in Dragon Ball Z would likely look a lot better than anything I could expect out of a Dragon Ball cartoon directed in America and animated in Korea.

Kid Buu · Post by **Kid Buu** » Wed May 08, 2013 1:50 am

I always thought part of the appeal of the series in the US was that it was so different from American cartoons, actually.

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Wed May 08, 2013 1:56 am

Kid Buu wrote:I always thought part of the appeal of the series in the US was that it was so different from American cartoons, actually.

I definitely agree with this. When I kid watching Cartoons seeing something like Dragonball blew the things that I liked out of the water! and that's not me knocking shows like Spiderman The animated series and stuff like that but Dragonball came along and was amazing haha

Ringworm128 · Post by **Ringworm128** » Wed May 08, 2013 3:10 am

I'm very open to the idea of a US DBZ.
What I'd want:
Stories contained to only 1 or 3 episodes with the first episode(s) serving as the back story to get everything in place instead of it being one big story. That way they could come up with heaps of different stories and not be confined to one big arc. I would love them to use movie villains and obscure villains like Dr Lychee and Majin instead of always using Freeza, Cell and Buu. That way they could develop characters like Yi Xing Long and Andriod 13 who are otherwise bland (a rewrite for Broli would be a must). Batman TAS is a good example of this formula, instead of only focusing on a couple of villains like The Joker and Penguin they used heaps of villains from across the franchise and they took an incredibly 1D character like Mr Freeze and made him memorable. For the animation I would want them to do an anime-esc look like Ben 10 or The Last Airbender.

Super Sayian Prime · Post by **Super Sayian Prime** » Wed May 08, 2013 3:05 pm

It would've been canceled after two seasons due to a lack of toy sales.

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Wed May 08, 2013 4:29 pm

Gonstead wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:The fight scenes and music wouldn't really be any good, so I wouldn't be interested.
But we wouldn't know that now, would we?

More than likely it'd be that, regarding what they air in US.

Fighting: Senseless heads and bodies exploding like shown in Family Guy / American Dad.
Music: Unstoppable music which is actually just noises through the entire episode (NBC's Hannibal 2013 -- It's annoying watching each episode without the option to turn off those damn noises).

Dragon Ball just isn't fit to ever be an American cartoon.

DonZ · Post by **DonZ** » Wed May 08, 2013 4:49 pm

Honestly, i don't like American Cartoons, the only one i like is The Simpsons (the old one, the funny one)
.. and i don't even want to think about DragonBall being a Cartoon

!

Brodes · Post by **Brodes** » Wed May 08, 2013 6:19 pm

DonZ wrote:Honestly, i don't like American Cartoons, the only one i like is The Simpsons (the old one, the funny one)
.. and i don't even want to think about DragonBall being a Cartoon !

Dragon Ball is a cartoon.

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Gonstead wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:The fight scenes and music wouldn't really be any good, so I wouldn't be interested.
But we wouldn't know that now, would we?
More than likely it'd be that, regarding what they air in US.

Fighting: Senseless heads and bodies exploding like shown in Family Guy / American Dad.
Music: Unstoppable music which is actually just noises through the entire episode (NBC's Hannibal 2013 -- It's annoying watching each episode without the option to turn off those damn noises).

So because an animated sitcom has exploding blodies and isn't about choreographed fighting (which, erm, have you seen the fights they coreograph on any of the McFarlane shows?) and one live action show has poor sound mixing, you assume that is how DB would be?

Dragon Ball just isn't fit to ever be an American cartoon.

What the hell does that even mean?

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Wed May 08, 2013 9:14 pm

So because an animated sitcom has exploding blodies and isn't about choreographed fighting (which, erm, have you seen the fights they coreograph on any of the McFarlane shows?) and one live action show has poor sound mixing, you assume that is how DB would be?

Those three were just a few examples, I've seen plenty more but didn't feel it was necessary to list all of them.

What the hell does that even mean?

Dragon Ball animation for American cartoons is still too advanced, there isn't anything to its level yet. Best way of watching Dragon Ball is through the Dragon Boxes or Kai/LS.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed May 08, 2013 9:29 pm

Family Guy's fight scenes are far, far better than Dragonball's, sorry.

Famicon3DS · Post by **Famicon3DS** » Wed May 08, 2013 10:26 pm

I would never want Dragon Ball an American-made show, I could imagine it being something like this.

Goku : Hey Frieza!
Frieza : What!
Goku : *fart*
EVERYBODY + AUDIENCE : HEEEUUAAHHHHHHUUAHHHHLOLASDFGHJKL

The only way I could see Dragon Ball as a American cartoon would be if Marvel made an adaptation, or maybe being akin to Avatar : TLA.

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