Was there moment where you wanted to stop watching?

[penguintruth]

When I saw what the fandom had become between the time you couldn't find a kind word about the English dub on the internet to where you couldn't find a kind word about the Japanese version.

[IDreamtIWasABee]

Dabra stoning Piccolo was a real kick to the nuts after slogging through the meandering beginning of the Boo saga. I was very attached to the 5-man warhorse team that fought Freeza on Namek (I think facing the most dread villain in the series really bound them together), and watching the guy who used to be Vegeta's peer so casually discarded...ugh.

I'm glad I stuck with it, though, because the Boo arc is a fantastic Goku-Vegeta "buddy picture." The Boo saga always takes shit for being poorly plotted, but character-wise, it's solid like a rock (unlike the Cell arc, which doesn't know whether to focus on Trunks, Goku, or Gohan).

[DBZ Mick]

I thought the Buu arc had the most entertaining fight scenes/action sequences, and I loved Buu's fighting style and generally what he was, as in a near immortal monster created to destroy the gods themselves. But it definitely has the worst story progression of the Z arcs (though I loved how it starts). It's all really enjoyable to me though, I prefer it to Cell but not as much as Freeza/namek.

I don't think I was ever tempted to stop watching or skip anything.

I agree. The Artificial Human arc is all over the place with Dr. Gero appearing from nowhere and creating robots and humans with robotic attachments stronger than Freeza and Super Saiyans (sorry, I've brought this up countless times but I just don't like it), terrible villians (Nos 16, 17 and 18 go joy riding for pete's sake and aren't even what I'd call evil), Vegeta becomes an annoying anti-hero, Trunks who had lots of promise is pushed to the background and the plot is all over the place the place (although the Boo arc has this too). Cell being introduced gave it the mystery and tension it needed but it became boring again when he absorbed #17 until the Cell Game brought it all together mostly (apart from Gohan's sudden pacifist turn).

The Boo arc up until Vegeta's sacrifice is much more enjoyable and well put together (plotwise IMO). It still has it's moments afterwards too though but that's when it becomes a bit of a clusterf#$k of ideas and whatnot.

The Boo arc has Kaioshin. That is all.

The Artifical Human/Cell arc has annoying anti-hero Vegeta, a sudden out of character development for Gohan, Trunks who bascially fades away into the background after the hint he's going to be very important..

[dbboxkaifan]

DBZ: Before the Cell Games started because the filler was so damn boring.
Kai: Episodes 53-98 due to the replacement music being unsuitable and the picture quality being only acceptable for a remastered HD release.

I didn't quit either one because I bought and so I just forced myself to watch them.

[Cold Skin]

One of my cotenants and friend last year had to take a break when watching Dragon Ball Kai, because he was fed up with the slow pace after the Freezer fight was over.
Dragon Ball Kai did pretty well with the rhythm overall, but it's true that the Freezer fight still feels too long with lots of padding here and there compared to the perfect manga pace.

When watching the movies, he almost had to take a break after DBZ Movie 3, despite the fact that I warned him it was the dullest and longest movie in the franchise (or so it feels anyway).
I insisted that the rest was not going to be that worse, with a real step-up from Movie 7 onwards (apart from Broly's catastrophic return(s), though they're still more entertaining than Movie 3, but perhaps more frustrating too with "the kids' playtime" and completely breaking down the concept of a now-ridiculous-and-boring Broly).

[TheGmGoken]

One of my cotenants and friend last year had to take a break when watching Dragon Ball Kai, because he was fed up with the slow pace after the Freezer fight was over.
Dragon Ball Kai did pretty well with the rhythm overall, but it's true that the Freezer fight still feels too long with lots of padding here and there compared to the perfect manga pace.

When watching the movies, he almost had to take a break after DBZ Movie 3, despite the fact that I warned him it was the dullest and longest movie in the franchise (or so it feels anyway).
I insisted that the rest was not going to be that worse, with a real step-up from Movie 7 onwards (apart from Broly's catastrophic return(s), though they're still more entertaining than Movie 3, but perhaps more frustrating too with "the kids' playtime" and completely breaking down the concept of a now-ridiculous-and-boring Broly).

Freeza fight was long even in the manga lol. Movie3 is the one with Turles correct?

[DBZ Mick]

^I agree. The Freeza fight starts in the manga in around volume #25 and only finishes in like volume #28. It's long in the manga too certainly, but better paced.

[Tenshin_Saiyan]

I like every arc of Dragon Ball/Z, but I always skip the first 20 episodes of DBGT...They're so boring.

[Cold Skin]

When watching the movies, he almost had to take a break after DBZ Movie 3, despite the fact that I warned him it was the dullest and longest movie in the franchise (or so it feels anyway).
I insisted that the rest was not going to be that worse, with a real step-up from Movie 7 onwards (apart from Broly's catastrophic return(s), though they're still more entertaining than Movie 3, but perhaps more frustrating too with "the kids' playtime" and completely breaking down the concept of a now-ridiculous-and-boring Broly).

Movie3 is the one with Tullece correct?

Yes, that's right, it's with Tullece.

The concept was good to have a vision of what Goku would have been if he hadn't been brain-bumped, but the execution was horrible, with dull grey/dead environments, uninspiring enemies, concept of the super-tree absorbing a planet's energy not too great, poor fight quality, a useless Gohan-turning-into-a-giant-ape plot (it really was just to buy some plot time since he didn't even prove useful, not even hurting Tullece before being untransformed) and overly long moments (especially the whole ending - loading the Genki Dama is already something that takes long but is acceptable in context, but loading it twice is too much, plus the final showdown between Goku and Tullece which shows them looking at each other, then the landscape, then looking at each other, then the landscape... I know it's supposed to play cowboy-style with them staring at each other during long seconds and suddenly it's the quickest shot that wins, but it was just not done right and feels like "let's show the landscape for ten seconds to buy some time, then let's remind the viewer that the two warriors are still looking at each other, then let's show the landscape during ten seconds again, then back to the two, then...").

[TheGmGoken]

When watching the movies, he almost had to take a break after DBZ Movie 3, despite the fact that I warned him it was the dullest and longest movie in the franchise (or so it feels anyway).
I insisted that the rest was not going to be that worse, with a real step-up from Movie 7 onwards (apart from Broly's catastrophic return(s), though they're still more entertaining than Movie 3, but perhaps more frustrating too with "the kids' playtime" and completely breaking down the concept of a now-ridiculous-and-boring Broly).

Movie3 is the one with Tullece correct?

Yes, that's right, it's with Tullece.

The concept was good to have a vision of what Goku would have been if he hadn't been brain-bumped, but the execution was horrible, with dull grey/dead environments, uninspiring enemies, concept of the super-tree absorbing a planet's energy not too great, poor fight quality, a useless Gohan-turning-into-a-giant-ape plot (it really was just to buy some plot time since he didn't even prove useful, not even hurting Tullece before being untransformed) and overly long moments (especially the whole ending - loading the Genki Dama is already something that takes long but is acceptable in context, but loading it twice is too much, plus the final showdown between Goku and Tullece which shows them looking at each other, then the landscape, then looking at each other, then the landscape... I know it's supposed to play cowboy-style with them staring at each other during long seconds and suddenly it's the quickest shot that wins, but it was just not done right and feels like "let's show the landscape for ten seconds to buy some time, then let's remind the viewer that the two warriors are still looking at each other, then let's show the landscape during ten seconds again, then back to the two, then...").

I hated the animation in that movie as well. Everything was too dark and look bland. I know Tullece was sucking the life out of Earth but did it need to look like a cave? I don't understand the point of Gohan going great ape. I can say this for all dbz movies(Except for movie1) but why can't Goku have a epic battle that's not one sided. Looking at dragonballs even battles are the best fights. One sided fights were only good for Villains and Gohan ssj2. Imagine Goku and Tullece fighting evenly match.

[IDreamtIWasABee]

The concept was good to have a vision of what Goku would have been if he hadn't been brain-bumped, but the execution was horrible, with dull grey/dead environments, uninspiring enemies, concept of the super-tree absorbing a planet's energy not too great, poor fight quality, a useless Gohan-turning-into-a-giant-ape plot (it really was just to buy some plot time since he didn't even prove useful, not even hurting Tullece before being untransformed) and overly long moments (especially the whole ending - loading the Genki Dama is already something that takes long but is acceptable in context, but loading it twice is too much, plus the final showdown between Goku and Tullece which shows them looking at each other, then the landscape, then looking at each other, then the landscape... I know it's supposed to play cowboy-style with them staring at each other during long seconds and suddenly it's the quickest shot that wins, but it was just not done right and feels like "let's show the landscape for ten seconds to buy some time, then let's remind the viewer that the two warriors are still looking at each other, then let's show the landscape during ten seconds again, then back to the two, then...").

Huh. I think the Tree of Might is one of the most atmospheric settings of the series for a fight. Definitely an improvement on its counterpart in the Saiyan arc (generic canyon).

Actually, all of the movies that "adapt" manga arcs have better settings than those in the manga (which makes sense-far more feasible to draw them in a film than in a weekly comic).

[chaosyoshimage]

I didn't really get to see much of GT as it was airing in the US due to the scheduling being inconvenient for me, but as I caught it here and there and even bought some tapes, I found myself disinterested in it. I've never even finished it. Maybe one day I'll find the Complete Series set for cheap and I'll finally check it out with the proper score (Maybe in Japanese as well). "Ultimate Uncut" got me back in on the franchise if you'd consider that a time I left, but when Cartoon Network stopped airing Dragon Ball Z in any form, I didn't pay too much mind to the franchise. I did pick up some cheap DVD's here and there (Basically just the TV specials and the last Z movie), but I didn't get back into the series on a level where I could say I was a "hardcore fan" until Kai started airing in the US.

[SSJJezter]

I never really wanted to stop watching, as I always thought there would be something cool to come. When re-watching it though, the Garlic Jr arc is such a chore. Even now I don't want to skip it as that's just how I am, but I feel like I'm waiting for it to end, rather than enjoying it.

[Kuwabara]

There were several moments where I wanted to stop watching GT, too many to count...

[DBZ Mick]

Funny thing with GT is when I was watching I at the time enjoyed it more than Z, because of all the planet exploring and stuff. Just felt more fresher than Z- which at the time I had only seen from the Artificial Human/Cell arcs to Boo.