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Goku's Gi

Post by the_abberration » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:55 pm

I am currently reading Vol. 25 of the Dragonball Z graphic novel from Viz.
I just read the part where Kibito takes Gohan back to Earth to fight Buu. When Kibito is trying to remember what color Goku's gi is, Gohan says it is golden yellow.

Was this a mis-translation? If not, considering DBZ has been out for a while, why didn't Viz just change it?
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Post by MyVisionity » Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:38 pm

From what I've seen of the colored chapter pages, isn't Goku's gi initially yellowish and then a light orange, as oppossed to the reddish-orange in the anime?

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Post by Duo » Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:20 pm

There have been other times in the Manga where his Gi was called "Yellow" or something close to that, but never have I read "orange".

Why this is, I have no idea, because it looks pretty orange on all the tankobon cover art.

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Post by Mr. Announcer » Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:24 pm

My mom says yamabuki is orange, but I'm guessing it's an orangeish yellow? No idea but I think it translates to mountain rose or something and I have no clue what color that would be. Gokuh's clothes are definitely more yellow in the manga though.
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Post by Nekoni » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:38 pm

Whatever color it is it looks great! *drools*

Anime seems to be reddish-orange, manga seems to be yellowish-orange...

'cept in SSJ forms, because then the yellow glow makes it even yellower still...

NOT red though. There's a definate!
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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:21 pm

Oddly enough, Gohan says the same thing (that Gokû's Gi is yellow) to Videl at the Tenka'ichi Budôkai. Maybe yellow and orange are considered the same color in Japanese? I think blue and green are... Maybe.

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Re: Goku's Gi

Post by chronocross » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:38 pm

the_abberration wrote:I am currently reading Vol. 25 of the Dragonball Z graphic novel from Viz.
I just read the part where Kibito takes Gohan back to Earth to fight Buu. When Kibito is trying to remember what color Goku's gi is, Gohan says it is golden yellow.

Was this a mis-translation? If not, considering DBZ has been out for a while, why didn't Viz just change it?
What page is it , so maybe be i can post the japanese page and someone can translate it .
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Post by DBW » Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:12 am

chronocross wrote:What page is it , so maybe be i can post the japanese page and someone can translate it .
Don't worry, I've found it (It's chapter 496)

He describes it as 「山吹色」 (yamabuki-iro) which translates to "bright golden yellow". So yeah, VIZ was spot-on with their translation.
Mr. Announcer wrote:My mom says yamabuki is orange, but I'm guessing it's an orangeish yellow? No idea but I think it translates to mountain rose or something and I have no clue what color that would be.
Yamabuki is a Japanese Globeflower (a variety of yellow rose), and then "iro" simply means colour. However, when you combine the two words together it just means a bright golden yellow (you wouldn't translate it as "globeflower-colour" or something).

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Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Maybe yellow and orange are considered the same color in Japanese? I think blue and green are... Maybe.
No, from everything I've seen and read there's a definite differentiation between those colours. With the green/blue thing you might just be thinking about the traffic lights. In Japan they call the green lights blue (but then again, they might actually be blue, I have no idea...there's a good question for Julian...).
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Post by Tsukento » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:01 pm

Simply put, Toriyama never gave an exact consistant color with the Gi. There were times where it was orange, then reddish orange, then yellowish orange to flat out yellow. You could see from all the color art he's done of Goku.

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Post by Guest » Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:56 pm

*Digs out Kanzenban*

Well, we know how extremely consistant Toriyama is with his colourings! Some colour chapter near the end of the fight with Vegeta, Gohan's outfit is vivid green. :shock:

I think Toriyama just used what colour inks were next to him that were relatively close to previous colour chapters and said, "Oh, what the Hell! Death to consistancy!"

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Post by Nekoni » Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:06 pm

Gohan: Mom? What color's Dad's gi?
ChiChi: It's uh... golden yellow, Gohan-chan.
Gohan: ... *picks up Goku's gi* But it looks orange to me-
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Post by DBW » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:01 pm

Yami-Tenchi wrote:*Digs out Kanzenban*

Well, we know how extremely consistant Toriyama is with his colourings! Some colour chapter near the end of the fight with Vegeta, Gohan's outfit is vivid green. :shock::? :roll:
That's not inconsistant... :? This is the first time we see Gohan's outfit in colour, so yeah, it's green. Remember, just because they make it purple in the anime, that doesn't mean it's correct. (Let's not forget red-haired Vegeta... ^_^ ).

As for Goku's gi being pink, that's only in the red and gray scale portions of the manga. The coloured chapters are usually only done partially in full colour, and then switch to a primarily red-based inking to save time.

If you flip back a little bit in that same Kanzenban with Gohan's green outfit (volume 16), you'll see the true colour of Goku's gi on pages 48-50, and 62-64. The rest of the pages with the pink gi are technically incorrect.
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Post by Great Saiyaman » Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:30 pm

Nekoni wrote:Whatever color it is it looks great! *drools*

Anime seems to be reddish-orange, manga seems to be yellowish-orange...

'cept in SSJ forms, because then the yellow glow makes it even yellower still...

NOT red though. There's a definate!
Yeah which is funny because Goku's gi is still the Yellow/Orange in the Anime even when the aura is not surrounding him...anyway, from what I can see on any cover art for the Manga it's always Yellow/Orange, but I prefer the way the Anime does it.
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