Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[omegalucas]

The "he can turn Super Saiyan" portion would make the most sense to me, if it is indeed intentional. I was under the impression that Gohan no longer could turn "blonde" form of Super Saiyan but could unlock that power after Elder Kai. Now my info for that does NOT come from manga or anime, as neither source ever says that Gohan no longer is able to go into the golden blonde hair Super Saiyan merely that it is unnecessary. But I have read in many places (maybe even fans on this website) say that the Daizenshuus say Gohan lacks the power once he powered up. I own Chozenshuu 1 and don't speak Japanese so it's just pretty pics for me lol so if fans who can read japanese know better then that'd be helpful info but I just have no idea and am inclined to agree that Gohan can still turn blonde becuase I have not read an official source say that he cannot.

To me Gohan still can turn into the golden haired form because the manga never said he could not only that if he powered up like that he would unlock his power and the transformation was "unnecessary" not that it was now impossible. My understanding of Dragon Ball has always been this: if they say "that blast will destroy the planet" all that means is it will blow up the planet, not that blowing up the planet is the max it is capable of...so saying Gohan can power up without transforming only means he can do that, not that he no longer can do the physical transformation where he goes blonde hair and green eyes.

However, I could be wrong as I cannot read Japanese and I am basing my info off of Viz Manga and Funimation subtitles.

The whole thing was discussed in a podcast here on Kanzenshuu. The only place where it says that Gohan can't turn Super Saiyan is in a guidebook for Movie 13 (and that's just a little tibdit in the book, and it's not even definite, it's written like "perhaps he can't turn into Super Saiyan anymore?").

[VegettoEX]

It was Episode #0319 for those interested. Myself, Herms, and Kaboom broke down all that shiznit. Good listen, if I do say so myself!

[alakazam^]

Haha I don't think I ever could "prove" that, but it just seems to be a more plausible explanation than "We did it right we kept Gohan having black hair pursuant to the manga and the ads are wrong because we don't talk to our ad department, no sir, no communication there...all the wasted hours of our ad department doing ads we never approved of including countless posters and other promotional material that money was poured into well yes that is just how you do business of course ...What about the blonde Super Saiyan Gohan that is still in the movie you ask? Well uhh...ahem...the blonde hair well that does not need explanation that was on purpose too because of uhhh... " lol

So in your opinion what is more likely? Do you think they goofed and went back and fixed it for the entire movie? OR just that they goofed on Gohan having blonde hair in that one instance when they turn Goku Super Saiyan God?

Well, I have no better "proof", of course, I just thought Watanabe seemed honest about it. I read that conversation and other responses he gave on Twitter, he even answered a question of mine about the name puns and he seemed a regular guy, so I think he might have told the truth about not goofing that up.I don't really know how the movie business works but if he is just the scriptwriter, I guess he doesn't really need to be aware of marketing choices.

As far as Gohan's hair goes, I went with the idea he still could turn into Super Saiya-jin so it didn't strike me as odd that he turned in the God ritual but it kinda takes away from his individuality (I do like that movie 13 scene where Goku and Goten turn into Super Saiya-jin and Gohan just powers up).

[Kakarot88]

It was Episode #0319 for those interested. Myself, Herms, and Kaboom broke down all that shiznit. Good listen, if I do say so myself!

Thanks for the podcast link! After listening to it, it unsurprisingly confirms what I already said and looks like we are in the same place as before lol: either they goofed and tried to fix or Gohan can do it with no explanation...YAAAAAY!

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

So I just listened to the whole soundtrack, straight-through, for the first time recently. I must say, I was quite surprised at it; in neither a bad or good way. Some of the pieces struck me as very English dub-esque. I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, but I noticed a few pieces that resemble Shuki Levy and Bruce Faulconer in particular.

Anyway, of the 43 tracks, my favourites were:
- Track 3, Our Hero, Son Goku (~ “CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA” (Main Title))
- Track 6, Bulma’s Birthday Party
- Track 24, Vegeta Enraged- this one strikes me as kinda Yamamoto-ish. Sort of reminds me of Creature of Marvel for some reason.
- Track 30, One More Saiyan
- Track 31, Super Saiyan God is Born
- Track 38,The Eternal Universe (Budding Friendship)
- Track 40, The Eternal Universe (Parting)
- Track 42, CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA (A Peaceful Earth)
And of course, the two main songs of the feature: HERO: Song of Hope and CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA

Overall, I really enjoyed listening to the soundtrack. One or two pieces sound a little out of place but others were really cinematic and a joy to listen to. I can pretty much close my eyes and picture the scenes playing out in front of me- with the help of Kanzenshuu's brilliant summary of the film, of course. In fact, I may listen to the soundtrack again while reading along with the summary at the same time.

[Kakarot88]

Yeah I love the new Head Cha-La, I love the old one too of course, the new version far exceeded my expectations!

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Not sure if this is even meant to be funny, but I laughed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... K62I6mCa0Q
http://portal.nifty.com/cs/dpztv/detail ... 0624/1.htm

[Avenged]

Well the movie did not reach it's goal, hit just short of 3 billion.

[Draken]

Well the movie did not reach it's goal, hit just short of 3 billion.

Isn't it still in a few theatres?

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Well the movie did not reach it's goal, hit just short of 3 billion.

Isn't it still in a few theatres?

I think it's had its final push now. Was only on 31 screens this week, Box Office Mojo has the details:
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/intl/?i ... Z02&p=.htm
The film's final total from its run in Japan is $29,947,013. Oh, so close.

[Draken]

Well the movie did not reach it's goal, hit just short of 3 billion.

Isn't it still in a few theatres?

I think it's had its final push now. Was only on 31 screens this week, Box Office Mojo has the details:
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/intl/?i ... Z02&p=.htm
The film's final total from its run in Japan is $29,947,013. Oh, so close.

31 more screens bullshit get dat 53k!

[sangofe]

Well the movie did not reach it's goal, hit just short of 3 billion.

Isn't it still in a few theatres?

I think it's had its final push now. Was only on 31 screens this week, Box Office Mojo has the details:
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/intl/?i ... Z02&p=.htm
The film's final total from its run in Japan is $29,947,013. Oh, so close.

Surely Toei could consider the moving having reached its goal being this close...?

[Chuquita]

I think it depends on how strict they are about it. Not reaching your goal is not reaching your goal. It depends now I think on how much Toei values what BOG could earn them internationally. DB has so many international fans who want to see the movie and could easily get it up to that goal imo.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I think it depends on how strict they are about it. Not reaching your goal is not reaching your goal. It depends now I think on how much Toei values what BOG could earn them internationally. DB has so many international fans who want to see the movie and could easily get it up to that goal imo.

Of course it would reach that goal. However, if it was to be released internationally, the goal would be much, much greater.

[Brodes]

That is so close to the goal, Toei might as well donate the difference themselves.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

We've still got up until May 17th in some theatres right?

[sangofe]

We've still got up until May 17th in some theatres right?

Everybody, raise your hands so the movie reaches the goal!

[Kakarot88]

...unless, 3 billion was never actually the goal and was actually just said for public relations purposes because they thought they would exceed that no effort and in fact it turns out they could not even reach that making this an epic flop...I certainly hope that is not the case but the announcement of the 3 billion figure seemed like it was done in an effort to garner publicity so they could later go "3 billion ain't shit! We blew that out of the water"...given all of the advertising and dual efforts with fast food chains I hope they will see the benefit of international releases in the future, but the likelihood of such releases is highly questionable, if this movie did not do well...which it does not seem to have given the fact that not only did it receive government funding but also the backing of multiple food chains.

[rereboy]

http://boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan/yearly/

Japan Yearly Box Office

Rank-----------Movie Title-----------Distributor----------Gross-------------Release
1-------------------Ted----------------Toho-Towa------$43,994,113----------1/18
2---------Doraemon Himitsu...---------Toho----------$39,965,030----------3/8
3-----------Meitantei Conan...----------Toho----------$29,989,725---------4/20
4---------------Dragon Ball Z-------------Toei-----------$29,947,013---------3/30

Yeah, 4th biggest gross of the year so far. I don't see why it should be considered a flop at all. Especially when we notice all the films in that list. I mean, I'm sure that the budget for Battle of Gods wasn't that high, in fact I've read that reports point to its budget being under 1 million dollars, so making over 30 times its budget and having the 4rd biggest gross of the year so far, can't be anything other than a success.

Of course, as the year goes on, its rank will decrease but going by last year's box office, $30,000,000 will be enough to keep it in the top 20 grossing films of the entire year.

So relax, I'm pretty sure it was a success.

[SRB2Unleashed]

I had a dream Youmacon was doing multiple screenings of BoG with English subtitles. Haha I really hope FOX & Funi work together and have the movie in theaters before the end of the year.