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I'm not saying it's the case but it totally looks like it .
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SSJ4 makes you bulkier while SSJG makes you skinnier. Seems polar opposite.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
The Oozaru also makes you massive so this is a middle ground.
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TheMightyOzaru wrote:The Oozaru also makes you massive so this is a middle ground.
Even so SSJG doesn't seem connected to Oozaru in the slightest. I hear that add with Oozaru doesn't happen in the movie.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Also, as cool as the red-orange fire aura for Super Saiyan 4 is, it's only presented that way in the video games. In GT proper and most elsewhere, it's the same golden aura as anything else Super Saiyan.
TheMightyOzaru wrote:The Oozaru also makes you massive so this is a middle ground.
Even so SSJG doesn't seem connected to Oozaru in the slightest. I hear that add with Oozaru doesn't happen in the movie.
I'm not saying it's a thing, I'm just saying it looks like it.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours." Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePrinceOfSaiyajins My 3DS Friend Code:
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TheMightyOzaru wrote:The Oozaru also makes you massive so this is a middle ground.
Even so SSJG doesn't seem connected to Oozaru in the slightest. I hear that add with Oozaru doesn't happen in the movie.
I'm not saying it's a thing, I'm just saying it looks like it.
I can't really see it. I can only see a connection of red between SSJ4 and SSJG. Other then that I see Goku has both forms. That's about it.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
To me it try's to maintain the base look like Ssj God did but in a different way with black hair. It has red fur and Ssj God has red hair. It looks like a combination of humanoid Saiyan and Oozaru like it should. If nothing else I would say it looks more like Ssj God + Oozaru than it does Ssj + Oozaru.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours." Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePrinceOfSaiyajins My 3DS Friend Code:
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What's interesting is that you manage to see resemblance in things that aren't similar at all (SS4 = SSG + Oozaru) but fail to see it in things that are quite similar (SSG = Kaio-ken + FSS + SS4 Gogeta).
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hleV wrote:What's interesting is that you manage to see resemblance in things that aren't similar at all (SS4 = SSG + Oozaru) but fail to see it in things that are quite similar (SSG = Kaio-ken + FSS + SS4 Gogeta).
It's because they don't. I get a vibe that SSJ4 looks like on Oozaru and SSJ God because there is more to compare. All you have to compare with Kaioken is red hair...
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours." Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePrinceOfSaiyajins My 3DS Friend Code:
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hleV wrote:What's interesting is that you manage to see resemblance in things that aren't similar at all (SS4 = SSG + Oozaru) but fail to see it in things that are quite similar (SSG = Kaio-ken + FSS + SS4 Gogeta).
Or maybe it's just your own biased point of view? I personally see nothing similar with SSG and SS4 Gogeta... Kaioken + FSS yea.