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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ringworm128 » Tue May 14, 2013 8:36 pm

A common thing I see is people saying "I prefer the Funimation version of Goku's SSJ3 transformation". Or "Funi did a good job with Goku's SSJ3 transformation". And I can't help but disagree, in the scene it's shown that the transformation could be as dangerous as Buu, Goku is causing earthquakes just by powering up and King Kai says that it would take a toll on the time he has left on Earth. The music should be full of suspense to highlight just how dangerous Goku going SSJ3 could be. Funimations version reminds me of the opening scene to Team America where it plays heroic music just after they destroy the place they were supposed to be protecting. http://youtu.be/HIPljGWGNt4?t=1m28s

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by KingofWisdom » Tue May 14, 2013 8:59 pm

I'll admit having a soft spot for that SSJ3 theme, as it's one of the very few tracks I like from the replacement score. All though it is highly repetitive as a song, and probably not too fitting of the scene itself, etc.

I actually prefer Sean Schemmel's SSJ3 transformation yelling to Masako Nozawa. :roll: It just always seemed to me like a power up yell should have a particular sound, and I think Schemmel achieved it (it's more like a battle cry). The Japanese version just has Goku screaming bloody murder. And I'm sure someone will argue that the dub's version is wrong for that reason, but I like it.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue May 14, 2013 8:59 pm

ringworm128 wrote:A common thing I see is people saying "I prefer the Funimation version of Goku's SSJ3 transformation". Or "Funi did a good job with Goku's SSJ3 transformation". And I can't help but disagree, in the scene it's shown that the transformation could be as dangerous as Buu, Goku is causing earthquakes just by powering up and King Kai says that it would take a toll on the time he has left on Earth. The music should be full of suspense to highlight just how dangerous Goku going SSJ3 could be. Funimations version reminds me of the opening scene to Team America where it plays heroic music just after they destroy the place they were supposed to be protecting. http://youtu.be/HIPljGWGNt4?t=1m28s
In my opinion, that point would have been conveyed a lot better if half a dozen previous transformations and powerups hadn't already been shown causing earthquakes and stormclouds and such. By the time SSJ3 did it, it was just kinda meh.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Saiga » Tue May 14, 2013 9:33 pm

Rocketman wrote:Super Saiyan God is complete shit.
:thumbup: Although I don't think that's particularly unpopular.
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Post by Kid Buu » Tue May 14, 2013 10:18 pm

Rocketman wrote:Super Saiyan God is complete shit.
Hey man, Kaioken is awesome, don't hate.
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Wed May 15, 2013 12:00 am

Rocketman wrote:Super Saiyan God is complete shit.
Pretty sure Goku thought so, as well. In fact, it isn't that the point of the movie? :lol:

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ringworm128 » Wed May 15, 2013 8:21 pm

I actually like some of the filler in the Freeza arc, I think it makes the whole battle seem more grand and epic making Freeza seem even more like some kind of monster that just won't die, so when he actually does finally loose it seems more climactic.

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Post by Kid Buu » Wed May 15, 2013 8:31 pm

ringworm128 wrote:I actually like some of the filler in the Freeza arc, I think it makes the whole battle seem more grand and epic making Freeza seem even more like some kind of monster that just won't die, so when he actually does finally loose it seems more climactic.
I like all Freeza arc filler until SSj Goku vs Freeza.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DonZ » Thu May 16, 2013 8:30 am

Unpopular Opinion: Dragon Ball Z has better Plot than Dragon Ball (up to Cell Arc)

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Post by Saiga » Thu May 16, 2013 9:14 am

DonZ wrote:Unpopular Opinion: Dragon Ball Z has better Plot than Dragon Ball (up to Cell Arc)
I agree, but I'd include the Boo Arc as well.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hades » Thu May 16, 2013 10:33 am

I don't really see any story in dragonball. A lot of flashy "we must reach super saiyan X to beat the bad guy" stuff yes, but nothing of real substance. No real characters, and the plot is ludicrously contrived.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by rereboy » Thu May 16, 2013 11:36 am

Hades wrote:I don't really see any story in dragonball. A lot of flashy "we must reach super saiyan X to beat the bad guy" stuff yes, but nothing of real substance. No real characters, and the plot is ludicrously contrived.
The plot in Dragon Ball is the kind of plot that exist in action movies. Its a very different kind of plot than a very serious movie but without a good action movie plot, an action movie is at best mediocre, no matter how good the fight scenes are.

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Post by DonZ » Thu May 16, 2013 11:37 am

Hades wrote:I don't really see any story in dragonball. A lot of flashy "we must reach super saiyan X to beat the bad guy" stuff yes, but nothing of real substance. No real characters, and the plot is ludicrously contrived.
Dragon Ball is about fighting, in the first seris (Original DragonBall) it's about Goku adventures and training to beat the Budokai Tenkaichi. in Z it becomes about Saiyans. up until Freeza Arc. Cell is about the RRA return. i think the only part that "didn't have plot" is Majin Boo. it's not related to the story in anyway, it felt like a big filler. but i still like it thought.
anyway .. the plot isn't what Dragon Ball best at.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Brodes » Thu May 16, 2013 5:26 pm

DonZ wrote:
Hades wrote:Cell is about the RRA return
No, it's not. At all.

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Post by DonZ » Thu May 16, 2013 6:00 pm

Brodes wrote:
DonZ wrote:
Hades wrote:Cell is about the RRA return
No, it's not. At all.
Androids ?

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Post by Brodes » Thu May 16, 2013 6:10 pm

DonZ wrote:
Brodes wrote:
DonZ wrote:Cell is about the RRA return
No, it's not. At all.
Androids ?
The RRA is mentioned a couple of times, because of Geros' sudden (retconned) association. The possibility the RRA is returning is never even brought up.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu May 16, 2013 8:17 pm

Vegeta and Future Gohan are very over rated by fans.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu May 16, 2013 8:22 pm

Ignore my last post. I think I already stated that. Here's a differ one. Goku is NOT a bad father. He's better then 10% of Fathers in the world.

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Post by Brodes » Thu May 16, 2013 9:10 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Ignore my last post. I think I already stated that. Here's a differ one. Goku is NOT a bad father. He's better then 10% of Fathers in the world.
In which world? The Dragon Ball world or the real world? Because either way, being better than other bad dads doesn't make him a good one. Just that he's not the worst.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu May 16, 2013 9:15 pm

Brodes wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Ignore my last post. I think I already stated that. Here's a differ one. Goku is NOT a bad father. He's better then 10% of Fathers in the world.
In which world? The Dragon Ball world or the real world? Because either way, being better than other bad dads doesn't make him a good one. Just that he's not the worst.
In real world. People say Goku's the worst father in the history(anime and real life). I think he's better then 10% of dads. He's not BAD but he's not GOOD.

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