Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Ryuji-Otogi · Post by **Ryuji-Otogi** » Sat May 18, 2013 5:46 pm

I think Star Wars has got one of the worst fan bases myself. lol. I've never seen a fan base where so many people hate the creator of the franchise they apparently love so much. And all the cynicism over which movies you like and which ones you don't.

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Sat May 18, 2013 6:05 pm

Bussani wrote:
samuraix123 wrote:Out of curiosity TheGmGoken, What are the other 4?
Wild guess: Sonic the Hedgehog, Invader Zim, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, and...The Lion King...?

Although I'm not necessarily saying I agree with such a list.

Whoa!!! People argue over the lion king???

What is there to argue about? LOL Sonic, Invader Zim, and My little Pony? you gotta be kidding? people got too much time on their hands

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Sat May 18, 2013 6:28 pm

samuraix123 wrote:Whoa!!! People argue over the lion king???

No, but they make some pretty horrible fanart, fan characters, fan fiction, etc. If we're just talking about arguments, I'd have to rethink my guesses.

LOL Sonic, Invader Zim, and My little Pony? you gotta be kidding? people got too much time on their hands

How is arguing over Dragon Ball any better?

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Sat May 18, 2013 6:56 pm

Ryuji-Otogi wrote:I think Star Wars has got one of the worst fan bases myself. lol. I've never seen a fan base where so many people hate the creator of the franchise they apparently love so much. And all the cynicism over which movies you like and which ones you don't.

What bothers me about that fanbase is the sense of entitlement. It bugs me to no end when people claim art doesn't belong to the creator. I happen to disagree with many of Lucas's additions and the prequel trilogy is pretty awful, but I still love the original trilogy and I'm thankful to him for giving me so many hours of enjoyment.

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Sat May 18, 2013 7:03 pm

Bussani wrote:
samuraix123 wrote:Whoa!!! People argue over the lion king???
No, but they make some pretty horrible fanart, fan characters, fan fiction, etc. If we're just talking about arguments, I'd have to rethink my guesses.

LOL Sonic, Invader Zim, and My little Pony? you gotta be kidding? people got too much time on their hands
How is arguing over Dragon Ball any better?

It's not any better? I was never trying to imply that it was.

but I think we may have gotten off topic for just a bit

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Sat May 18, 2013 7:04 pm

Fair enough.

DBZ Mick · Post by **DBZ Mick** » Sat May 18, 2013 7:05 pm

Only when they try to use them as facts- like the Dragon Ball wiki.

Some dub spellings of characters like FRIEZA irritate me as well. What's wrong with Freeza?

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat May 18, 2013 7:25 pm

I get tired of feeling like a weirdo (as a Manga / Japanese version prefer--er?) whenever I stray out of this board. Makes you guard your cards pretty closely when you hear people talking DBZ in real life.

Dub line quoting has the tenancy to set that off first and foremost. I still see FB meme photo's of Goku delivering the "I am..." speech. I often just comment saying "I'm so glad they fixed this line up for the Kai version - my goodness was that first translation unbearable."

WesMan23 · Post by **WesMan23** » Sat May 18, 2013 7:42 pm

Duo wrote:I get tired of feeling like a weirdo (as a Manga / Japanese version prefer--er?) whenever I stray out of this board. Makes you guard your cards pretty closely when you hear people talking DBZ in real life.

Dub line quoting has the tenancy to set that off first and foremost. I still see FB meme photo's of Goku delivering the "I am..." speech. I often just comment saying "I'm so glad they fixed this line up for the Kai version - my goodness was that first translation unbearable."

Glad I'm not the only one that does that

It irks me a bit as well. He is not "the light in the darkness". His proper "I am..." speech in the Kai dub is my signature. It is infinitely more epic than "ally to good, nightmare to you!" I just don't see why people don't understand that. It's one thing if they like it, but at least acknowledge the proper version as well. Please. It ain't that hard.

goku the krump dancer · Post by **goku the krump dancer** » Sat May 18, 2013 8:00 pm

Bussani wrote:I'm not going to get "mad" either way, and I don't care if people use dub terms or names, but dub information that contradicts the original story can obviously be problematic when having a discussion. Things like Goku's father being a brilliant scientist, or Goku's teleportation letting him move at the speed of light, or West Kaio having fought Buu in the past, for example.

This and I also agree with Gyt Kaliba..

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Sat May 18, 2013 8:21 pm

WesMan23 wrote:
Duo wrote:I get tired of feeling like a weirdo (as a Manga / Japanese version prefer--er?) whenever I stray out of this board. Makes you guard your cards pretty closely when you hear people talking DBZ in real life.

Dub line quoting has the tenancy to set that off first and foremost. I still see FB meme photo's of Goku delivering the "I am..." speech. I often just comment saying "I'm so glad they fixed this line up for the Kai version - my goodness was that first translation unbearable."
Glad I'm not the only one that does that It irks me a bit as well. He is not "the light in the darkness". His proper "I am..." speech in the Kai dub is my signature. It is infinitely more epic than "ally to good, nightmare to you!" I just don't see why people don't understand that. It's one thing if they like it, but at least acknowledge the proper version as well. Please. It ain't that hard.

The light in the darkness speech isn't Goku at all. One of the threads in the Freeza arc is Goku finally reconciling who he is - he's not just human, and he's not just another Saiyan, he is a Saiyan raised on Earth.

Scarz · Post by **Scarz** » Sat May 18, 2013 8:39 pm

DBZ Mick wrote:Only when they try to use them as facts- like the Dragon Ball wiki.

Pretty much this. I don't really care if other fans uses the dub lines when were having a conversation (or whatever). But when they try to use it as a source for facts (or as a characterization of a character) I just simply do my best to inform them. I don't jump on them or get angry if they get something wrong or confused because of the early english dub. Hell, I was once on of them until I stumbled upon this site.

WesMan23 · Post by **WesMan23** » Sat May 18, 2013 8:44 pm

ABED wrote:The light in the darkness speech isn't Goku at all. On of the threads in the Freeza arc is Goku finally reconciling who he is - he's not just human, and he's not just another Saiyan, he is a Saiyan raised on Earth.

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Exactly. Vegeta's speech about the extinction of the race, I believe, is what made Goku realize more of what he is, and where he comes from. He knew that, at the time, he was the last surviving full-blooded member of his race. He was staring down the monster who basically single-handedly killed his father, nearly all of the other Saiya-Jins, and his home planet, the monster who killed his best friend and threatened his son. This wasn't a superhero moment. Goku was pissed. He accepted his lineage, and he let loose his Saiya-Jin side, and it was a frightening moment. Freeza knew he wasn't playing around now. Goku had to get his hands dirty and destroy Freeza.

In the original dub scene, dub Goku was still just dub Goku, only mad, and with golden hair. In the Kai Dub, he was Son Goku, realizing who he was, accepting that for once, he's actually gotta fight to kill. Z Dub Goku and Son Goku are two separate characters. That is what makes me sad about the dub. There should be only one Goku, Son Goku, at all times.

dbzfan7 · Post by **dbzfan7** » Sat May 18, 2013 9:03 pm

Bussani wrote:
samuraix123 wrote:Out of curiosity TheGmGoken, What are the other 4?
Wild guess: Sonic the Hedgehog, Invader Zim, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, and...The Lion King...?

Ugh Sonic has one of if not the worst fanbase ever. Whether it's trying to make pairings out of 8 year olds, 2d vs 3d, or the most stupid the green eyes crap.

MLP fanbase only sucks when they spread that crap like a virus. Never have DBZ and MLP together ever. I especially hate when they demote Goku, Gohan, and Vegeta into Bronies.

I like Invader Zim but don't know about it's fanbase or Lion King's fanbase

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat May 18, 2013 10:21 pm

It depends on what dub lines.

Super Saiyan Goku's intensely out-of-character "hope of the universe" speech, or Freeza's creepy come-ons, or lines with meaning that got changed into fluff or nonsense... blech.

But everybody loves the "people-popcorn" line. Everybody.

WesMan23 · Post by **WesMan23** » Sat May 18, 2013 10:26 pm

Kaboom wrote:It depends on what dub lines.

Super Saiyan Goku's intensely out-of-character "hope of the universe" speech, or Freeza's creepy come-ons, or lines with meaning that got changed into fluff or nonsense... blech.

But everybody loves the "people-popcorn" line. Everybody.

I was just watching the clip of that before I read your post. I think that you're right on the money with that one. I could almost imagine TFS leaving that line in as-is with DBZ Abridged. It's too perfect.

TheMightyOzaru · Post by **TheMightyOzaru** » Sat May 18, 2013 10:30 pm

Ryuji-Otogi wrote:I think Star Wars has got one of the worst fan bases myself. lol. I've never seen a fan base where so many people hate the creator of the franchise they apparently love so much. And all the cynicism over which movies you like and which ones you don't.

I don't know, the Sonic fanbase is the worst IMO

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Kaboom wrote:It depends on what dub lines.

Super Saiyan Goku's intensely out-of-character "hope of the universe" speech, or Freeza's creepy come-ons, or lines with meaning that got changed into fluff or nonsense... blech.

But everybody loves the "people-popcorn" line. Everybody.

Damn straight

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Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Sat May 18, 2013 11:18 pm

It does bother me sometimes when fans use dub lines and act like they are the official source for everything. I still hate the whole "I am the hope of the Universe" crap. I do think people who use " Bejīta" instead "Vegeta" can be annoying sometimes when the name always translates to "Vegeta" in English. I do admit that I like using Japanese names over Funi dub names sometimes since I really hate Tullece calling "Turles". That name is so dumb in my opinion.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Sun May 19, 2013 12:51 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:It does bother me sometimes when fans use dub lines and act like they are the official source for everything. I still hate the whole "I am the hope of the Universe" crap. I do think people who use " Bejīta" instead "Vegeta" can be annoying sometimes when the name always translates to "Vegeta" in English. I do admit that I like using Japanese names over Funi dub names sometimes since I really hate Tullece calling "Tullece". That name is so dumb in my opinion.

I hate how this website turns names such as Tur-les/ Tur les and Fri eza to it's original name. Even though mostly they're bad names but can't blame people for spelling the way they're used to lol.

Tur-les is such a bad name. Turles sounds so more badass(Masako Nowsako best character to be honest).
Fri ez was just funimation being idiots.

Kid Buu · Post by **Kid Buu** » Sun May 19, 2013 2:06 am

Kaboom wrote:.

But everybody loves the "people-popcorn" line. Everybody.

And the Fish Line from Movie 7.

Kanzenshuu

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