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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun May 19, 2013 2:48 pm

...*cocks head* And the point of us having Yakon and She-Yakon both working for Babidi now...is...

That and, 'smooth talker with the peticoat'? Bwah?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun May 19, 2013 3:00 pm

Since Vegeta is dead in this timeline then I wonder if we will get a replacement instead? It won't surprise me to see Majin #17 and Majin #18 soon.
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Post by coola » Sun May 19, 2013 4:04 pm

If translators are not allow to tell, I'm sorry, but, will this special last only one chapter?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Tzigi » Sun May 19, 2013 4:18 pm

coola wrote:If translators are not allow to tell, I'm sorry, but, will this special last only one chapter?
Yes. After this chapter we'll get the next part of the "normal" storyline. At least that seems to be the case from what's written on translators' page.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun May 19, 2013 5:30 pm

This chapter went from interesting to lame with a random new character that was not needed.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sun May 19, 2013 10:15 pm

I rarely come to this topic but I do every now and then just to see what's cooking. I find it fantastic that some of you STILL believe that the whole story is something more than a crock of shit.

I mean, characters being introduced out of nothing for no reason and having no relevance whatsoever is what they've been doing since the beginning. Corny lines, lame plots, piss-poor pacing. This just proves what I've been saying for a very long time, Salagir is absolutely awful at storytelling, all the good plot-points and battles have been "borrowed" from other fan-fics and a quick research will reveal that to you.

The worse are without a doubt these appalling "special" chapters they keep farting out. He thinks he's been smart by leaving "cliff-hangers" but all he's doing is completely cutting the pace and leaving people annoyed and disinterested; once again proving that he is completely talentless. What truly baffles me is why these amazing artists decide to associate with him.

At this point I find the Minicomic more interesting than the main comic. Whenever the main comic gets interesting he decides to break it in for another "special" which is not only stupid but a major dick move. The best way to enjoy this comic would be to wait until the end of the year and read a bunch of pages from the main comic, ignoring the specials and then wait until the end of the following year to repeat.

I'm sorry about the rant but it annoys me that this guy gets so much attention when all he does is biased fan-wanking.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun May 19, 2013 10:26 pm

I definitely think it's a crock of shit with all of the original sue characters, poor pacing, horridly boring massacre specials, plotholes, defilement of canon because lolsalagir, and the wanking of Bardock, Cold, Broly, et cetera. But like I said, Zen Buu is really cool, so I must see what he's doing. To a lesser extent, I'm also interested in Cell. Besides it's only a tri-weekly six panel comic. Not like I'm losing anything.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sun May 19, 2013 10:41 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:I definitely think it's a crock of shit with all of the original sue characters, poor pacing, horridly boring massacre specials, plotholes, defilement of canon because lolsalagir, and the wanking of Bardock, Cold, Broly, et cetera. But like I said, Zen Buu is really cool, so I must see what he's doing. To a lesser extent, I'm also interested in Cell. Besides it's only a tri-weekly six panel comic. Not like I'm losing anything.
True, I barely keep up with it to even remember half the shit that's been done, so I forgot to mention all the Mary-Sues, which is ironic since he created a character poking fun at Mary-Sues. And also like you said, all the plot-holes and out-of-characters and ignoring the canon. What really gets to me is that the way he writes and the way he addresses fans shows a sense of self-entitlement, like he is superior to other fan-fic writers, hence the Mary-Sue character. It's so sad that he doesn't even realize that he does the exact things he criticizes.

Yes I also am interested in seeing what will happen to Cell and Zen Buu, and most of the battles in the next round seem interesting, but I can't shake this feeling he will fuck them up and make them boring. The battle between Cell and Dabra is still fresh in my mind because it was great, and it was great because it was written by someone else. I can't even remember how the battle between Cell and Bojack went. So yeah, so much potential and I dread the day the battles will come because I simply can't shake that feeling that they will be disappointing.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun May 19, 2013 10:47 pm

Except for maybe XXI vs Vegetto, the next fights seem to be a series of brutal stomps. Or at least they logically should be.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sun May 19, 2013 10:54 pm

I was referring to the next round, not the next set of fights :P

Funny how I can no longer find the links he once provide to the original works. Now all it says is that he "based his work from other works". I remember reading the Reecome versus Nail and Cell versus Dabra before they happened, for example.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by miguelnuva1 » Sun May 19, 2013 11:42 pm

DBM has turned from and interesting story to someone who got a little too much power and is now throwing ideas out of his head without any thought if the idea is god or not. I still don't see how Gohan can get out of this without it being too much BS.

Specials either need to stop so the Manga can finish or Saligir needs to bring some more fans on board to help him out.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon May 20, 2013 3:47 am

Does anyone actually like the specials? To me they're usually horribly boring and this is no exception. But that's the least of DBM's problems. Actually, never mind, it's near the top.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Gonstead » Mon May 20, 2013 4:24 am

I wish they would just stop introducing specials like every 3 pages of the main story. That's pretty much how it's been felt for me.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saimaroimaru » Mon May 20, 2013 10:35 am

The only special I am interested in is the Zen Buu one but I agree that they need to do a lot more current time line pages before doing another universe flash ones.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon May 20, 2013 12:05 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Does anyone actually like the specials? To me they're usually horribly boring and this is no exception. But that's the least of DBM's problems. Actually, never mind, it's near the top.
They pretty much all suck. Some have me interested in them, but nothing blows my mind. Especially at the pace the whole thing is released at jut makes it all that much worse.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Mon May 20, 2013 1:13 pm

The tone of the specials is what often ruins it for me. They tend to be retellings of material we know from Dragon Ball itself but the tone doesn't match at all. It's one thing for something like the main DBM to differ since it's a separate entity made of all new material. But for something like DBZ Movie 9, even an alternate universe Movie 9, to feel so completely alien in ways it logically shouldn't be (characterization, overall atmosphere, etc.), it's too jarring to not be put off. And in a lot of ways, sometimes the specials don't even feel like they belong with DBM itself. I was ok with the Bardock special for the most part (needless rewrite of the TV special notwithstanding), the U13 one, and the Super Namek. But most of the others felt either pointless and redundant or outright bizarre. And the constant grammar issues, which seem to always be worse in the specials, don't help matters. Ultimately, the specials have the unfortunate honor of being essentially fanfiction of fanfiction.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Mon May 20, 2013 2:06 pm

Salagir wrote:Gohan refers to Vegeta, because in the "Future/Mirai universe", in our story, Vegeta trained him after the first attack of the cyborgs. Mirai Gohan was hardened a lot by the death of his father followed by the terrible attacks of the cyborgs and the brutal training of Vegeta.
Therefore, "DBM Mirai Gohan" got two masters, whether you like it or not: Piccolo and Vegeta.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon May 20, 2013 2:06 pm

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Salagir wrote: Gohan refers to Vegeta, because in the "Future/Mirai universe", in our story, Vegeta trained him after the first attack of the cyborgs. Mirai Gohan was hardened a lot by the death of his father followed by the terrible attacks of the cyborgs and the brutal training of Vegeta.
Therefore, "DBM Mirai Gohan" got two masters, whether you like it or not: Piccolo and Vegeta.
Hooray for more bullshit that we don't need and would not happen. Vegeta doesn't like training with anybody and would have fought the Cyborgs instantly and died. Not train Gohan randomly. Gohan also doesn't like Vegeta. He would more likely train with Piccolo again.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Mon May 20, 2013 2:19 pm

Mmm, that delicious superiority complex and self-entitlement. I love how he completely lacks modesty, it's all like "THIS IS MY STORY I DO WHAT I WANT".
News flash asshole, it isn't. It's Toriyama's story that you're poorly adapting and shitting on.

Honestly, how can this person call himself a fan when he completely disregards and disrespects the original source?

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