Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ: "Rock the Dragon" Set

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by Fennekin » Sat May 25, 2013 2:56 pm

KingofWisdom wrote:I'm wondering if this set is related to Kai after all. Like, if they didn't want to use the Kai name to avoid confusion, and maybe it was rescheduled because the dub isn't ready yet? I guess all we can do at this point is speculate.
But why would they list the DVD to begin with if the dub wasn't ready?

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by eledoremassis02 » Sat May 25, 2013 2:57 pm

Fennekin wrote:Bad news guys (I wanted to report this yesterday but the site was down.). The DVD was not listed on FUNimation's July DVD schedule, which means it was either delayed or cancelled.
That's ok. As much as I'd like to get these I am glad that they are delayed or cancelled (if they are) before they released the first volume and then not release the second half.

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by samuraix123 » Sat May 25, 2013 3:59 pm

Glad I didn't get rid of my box sets. :P
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat May 25, 2013 7:13 pm

KingofWisdom wrote:I'm wondering if this set is related to Kai after all. Like, if they didn't want to use the Kai name to avoid confusion, and maybe it was rescheduled because the dub isn't ready yet? I guess all we can do at this point is speculate.
That's unlikely because the episodes shown on the cover are 26/29 which for Z are the Saiyan's arc, and in Kai's Freeza arc.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by eledoremassis02 » Sat May 25, 2013 7:20 pm

samuraix123 wrote:Glad I didn't get rid of my box sets. :P
I did :? But still have the VHS' :D

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by Fennekin » Sat May 25, 2013 9:54 pm

Either way, I'm scared we won't see this listing again. AAA Anime removed it from their website.

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ShadowDude112 » Sat May 25, 2013 10:26 pm

Fennekin wrote:Either way, I'm scared we won't see this listing again. AAA Anime removed it from their website.
Good. If this was a real thing that got cancelled, that's awesome. If FUNimation was seriously considering releasing this, that would probably be the dumbest decision they've ever made.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ABED » Sat May 25, 2013 10:33 pm

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Fennekin wrote:Either way, I'm scared we won't see this listing again. AAA Anime removed it from their website.
Good. If this was a real thing that got cancelled, that's awesome. If FUNimation was seriously considering releasing this, that would probably be the dumbest decision they've ever made.
Dumbest? Really? Dumber than hiring Christopher Neel/Neil Bligh as a writer?
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ShadowDude112 » Sat May 25, 2013 10:40 pm

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ShadowDude112 wrote:
Fennekin wrote:Either way, I'm scared we won't see this listing again. AAA Anime removed it from their website.
Good. If this was a real thing that got cancelled, that's awesome. If FUNimation was seriously considering releasing this, that would probably be the dumbest decision they've ever made.
Dumbest? Really? Dumber than hiring Christopher Neel/Neil Bligh as a writer?
"Hurrr, let's release an old, out dated dub. Surely fans will buy that." Like, why would anyone think that and possibly believe it was a good idea? There's so much better things they could have released. Why would you even want an un-finished and edited to HFIL dub anyways?
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Post by ABED » Sat May 25, 2013 10:51 pm

So what if it's old? It's so old it's now retro, and there are many positives to that dub. We live in an era of niche marketing. There's a market for nostalgia. Why just let that dub degrade in some vault and not monetize it?

"There's so much better things they could have released."
I don't understand this line of reasoning. Releasing this doesn't preclude them from releasing something else.

Again, I ask - DUMBEST? in the long history of dumb decisions by funimation, how does this rank as one of them? What about cropping DBZ?
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by Kid Buu » Sat May 25, 2013 11:00 pm

ABED wrote:What about cropping DBZ?
Anything to do with their home releases is bad, DBox aside.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sat May 25, 2013 11:13 pm

I personally don't think a DVD release of this could be justified.....but on the other hand......a digital streaming-only release, I view that as much more practical. Videos on YouTube of the Ocean dub have tons of views, so FUNimation might as well monetize those and help the industry.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ABED » Sat May 25, 2013 11:14 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:I personally don't think a DVD release of this could be justified.....but on the other hand......a digital streaming-only release, I view that as much more practical. Videos on YouTube of the Ocean dub have tons of views, so FUNimation might as well monetize those and help the industry.
Help what industry?

I do agree with the streaming option.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ShadowDude112 » Sat May 25, 2013 11:21 pm

Kid Buu wrote:
ABED wrote:What about cropping DBZ?
Anything to do with their home releases is bad, DBox aside.
This guy gets it. Why doesn't FUNi just release more Dragon Boxes or some other type of quality release? The thought that they would release this is astoundingly stupid. I'm talking Superior Spider-Man levels of stupid. Like, I don't see how a release like this would sell, even to a niche audience. Better video quality? With bad masters? Like, wow, that can't be a positive. It would really be a waste of money and resources for FUNimation.

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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ABED » Sat May 25, 2013 11:27 pm

The Dragon Box was a limited market release.

It's only a waste of money if they lose money on it. And no, this is nowhere even close to Superior Spider-Man bad.

You act like this is the most ridiculous creative decision ever, but it doesn't really affect you.

They can still release a quality release concurrently.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ShadowDude112 » Sat May 25, 2013 11:39 pm

ABED wrote:The Dragon Box was a limited market release.

It's only a waste of money if they lose money on it. And no, this is nowhere even close to Superior Spider-Man bad.

You act like this is the most ridiculous creative decision ever, but it doesn't really affect you.

They can still release a quality release concurrently.
Why not just have the quality release instead of doing a concurrent run? Also, why release something with corny dialog, laughable 90s voice acting that's not even their own actors, edits that would make 4Kids laugh, and just overall something that not a lot of people would even buy. There is no reason this release should have even been a thought in FUNimation executive's minds.
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ABED » Sat May 25, 2013 11:50 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:
ABED wrote:The Dragon Box was a limited market release.

It's only a waste of money if they lose money on it. And no, this is nowhere even close to Superior Spider-Man bad.

You act like this is the most ridiculous creative decision ever, but it doesn't really affect you.

They can still release a quality release concurrently.
Why not just have the quality release instead of doing a concurrent run? Also, why release something with corny dialog, laughable 90s voice acting that's not even their own actors, edits that would make 4Kids laugh, and just overall something that not a lot of people would even buy. There is no reason this release should have even been a thought in FUNimation executive's minds.
Because there are those of us that like the Ocean dub, and some who would like to see it but haven't. That dub is leagues better than season 3 in terms of both acting and even dialog. What is 90s voice acting and what makes it worse than today's?

Again, how is this even remotely FUNi's WORST decision? You make some good points, which I'm sure they've taken into consideration, however to say it's arguably the dumbest decision they've ever made is such a stretch when you consider the overall crappiness of DBZ's dub scripts. It don't get much dumber than "mondo cool!" Talk about out of date. Who was that supposed to appeal to?

I already gave you a few reasons why a release like this might be a good decision - there could be a market, albeit limited for it, and why have something sit on the shelf gathering dust when you can make money off of it?
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by Solidus » Sun May 26, 2013 8:01 am

I hope this is only delayed and not cancelled, I would have liked to have had this dub with better picture quality. I don't understand how people can begrudge this be released. It's not Funimation's future for the series and is only cashing in on an old product that's targeted as a niche add-on not as a replacement.

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by Fennekin » Sun May 26, 2013 3:24 pm

Simple solution: If you didn't like the dub, don't buy it. But don't get upset at the people who would actually like this.

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun May 26, 2013 5:03 pm

I for one would definitely order this DBZ Ocean Dub Saiyan arc set if it were real because I don't see myself buying the old ones which are bulky, mostly available only used for reasonable prices and I just prefer it to be in a smaller set.

Fingers crossed that this ends up being legit, but Amazon so far nothing.
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