Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon May 20, 2013 6:23 pm

I'm not saying it's bad to enjoy the original names or to expect good grammar and spelling - which I don't call that one petty at all, I like that that gets enforced here - but I just fail to see how it would be so bad if people were allowed to type the names they know. It's clear that most know what they mean if they know to direct vitriol towards it, and this site is original-version-oriented enough that few people would use the names anyway probably - so I just don't get why it's such a bad thing, or why some feel the need to flip out if they see a dub name being mentioned. That's all I'm saying.
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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon May 20, 2013 7:02 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'm not saying it's bad to enjoy the original names or to expect good grammar and spelling - which I don't call that one petty at all, I like that that gets enforced here - but I just fail to see how it would be so bad if people were allowed to type the names they know. It's clear that most know what they mean if they know to direct vitriol towards it, and this site is original-version-oriented enough that few people would use the names anyway probably - so I just don't get why it's such a bad thing, or why some feel the need to flip out if they see a dub name being mentioned. That's all I'm saying.
Yeah. I'm surprised no one complain about someone saying King Piccolo

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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by ABED » Mon May 20, 2013 7:03 pm

How many people are flipping out? Usually I see polite correction if anything.

Expecting good grammar and spelling isn't petty. It is really annoying to read posts that are unintelligible. It makes things harder than they need to be (that's what she said). Plus, if you make a good effort to write a proper sentence, I don't think the mods are going to bust you.
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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by IDreamtIWasABee » Mon May 20, 2013 7:43 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:I don't think they got the pronunciation of Dr. Gero right in Kai IIRC?
Unfortunately, no. He's still Jero.
"Unfortunately"? The airy, French "Jero" ("Gerauix"?) is so nice to the ear. If it's better, it's forgiven.

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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by ABED » Mon May 20, 2013 11:19 pm

Except it misses the joke. Gero is the Japanese equivalent to "Ribbet"
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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by Ringworm128 » Tue May 21, 2013 12:13 am

So does that mean he should be called "Dr Ribbit"? And I always thought it was "kero".

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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by OutlawTorn » Tue May 21, 2013 2:38 am

ABED wrote:Except it misses the joke. Gero is the Japanese equivalent to "Ribbet"
Playing Devil's Advocate here, I can understand keeping names the way they're supposed to be, but how are people who don't speak Japanese supposed to get Japanese puns? I wouldn't expect Japanese viewers of an imported English cartoon to get English puns which are unrecognizable to their own language.

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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by jpdbzrulz4sure » Tue May 21, 2013 3:33 am

OutlawTorn wrote:Playing Devil's Advocate here, I can understand keeping names the way they're supposed to be, but how are people who don't speak Japanese supposed to get Japanese puns?
That's what things like trivias and guidebooks are for. :P
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Post by matt0044 » Tue May 21, 2013 7:36 am

jpdbzrulz4sure wrote: That's what things like trivias and guidebooks are for. :P
Puns are jokes and if you explain the joke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ddp1pf_MB8

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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by ABED » Tue May 21, 2013 10:08 am

Regardless of whether people get the pun, it's how you pronounce his name. Plus it's not like it's that funny even if you know the joke.
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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by aarondirebear » Sun May 26, 2013 3:25 pm

Aye, it is one of my fan fiction pet peeves. It comes in a close second to using dub-only facts as actual, canonical facts.
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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by ABED » Sun May 26, 2013 3:40 pm

In the dub, Crane Hermit give an internal monologue where he talks about how he and Tao Pai Pai were on the outs before his death, and some sites report that as fact.
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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by aarondirebear » Sun May 26, 2013 3:47 pm

DarkPrince_92 wrote:I feel like only the crowd on this forums, and the weeaboos, actually give a shit about using the dub as reference for anything.
Disliking the dub dialog does not make someone a weeaboo.
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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by aarondirebear » Sun May 26, 2013 4:04 pm

Technically, the correct way to pronnounce Saiyan would be closer to "scion" because the first two syllables are sigh-yaw, not say-un.

Wait wait...let me try this.
Frieza. Tien. Hercule.
if the above line features the word Tenshinhan now, then mega hugs to this website and its administrators.
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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by aarondirebear » Sun May 26, 2013 4:09 pm

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Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'm not saying it's bad to enjoy the original names or to expect good grammar and spelling - which I don't call that one petty at all, I like that that gets enforced here - but I just fail to see how it would be so bad if people were allowed to type the names they know. It's clear that most know what they mean if they know to direct vitriol towards it, and this site is original-version-oriented enough that few people would use the names anyway probably - so I just don't get why it's such a bad thing, or why some feel the need to flip out if they see a dub name being mentioned. That's all I'm saying.
Yeah. I'm surprised no one complain about someone saying King Piccolo
Well, king is part of his original name (the -ou part) but yes I would prefer if people at least didn't omit "great demon" even if they don't feel like saying Daimaou.
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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by DBZ Mick » Sun May 26, 2013 6:57 pm

Yeah. I'm surprised no one complain about someone saying King Piccolo
It kinda irks me but only because they use King offhand a lot from memory. Or 'Super'.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

Superman in an orange Gi was the bastard son of FUNimation. Its not The real character, it is as false as Chatku.

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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by ABED » Mon May 27, 2013 12:36 pm

DBZ Mick wrote:
Yeah. I'm surprised no one complain about someone saying King Piccolo
It kinda irks me but only because they use King offhand a lot from memory. Or 'Super'.
I don't follow. Super what? What do you mean by "King offhand from memory"?
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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by DBZ Mick » Tue May 28, 2013 3:42 am

I mean they use the titles 'Super' or 'King' from memory a lot.

Such as...

King Vegeta
King Piccolo
Demon King Dabura ( I think they used this title once)
King Yemma
King Furry (apparently that's what that Dog King is called in the dub- forgot his name in Japanese)
King Chapa
King Cold
Ox King
King Kai


Super Saiyan
Super #17
Super Boo
Super Vegetto
Super Vegeta
Super Namek
Super Yi Xing Long

Actually the Japanese version does use 'Super' a lot too...now that I think about it.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Re: Does it bother you when people use dub lines?

Post by ABED » Tue May 28, 2013 7:14 am

Dragon Ball's king is just called "the King" he doesn't have a name. Plus, most of the names you mentioned are legit names. King Vegeta is in fact King Vegeta.
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