When did you realize that FUNI was doing it right this time?

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When did you realize that FUNI was doing it right this time?

Post by WesMan23 » Tue May 28, 2013 7:22 pm

At which point in the Kai dub did you realize that FUNi was actually taking the right steps in being more faithful to the source material and producing a better dub overall?

There were a couple moments for me. For one, Freeza's new VA pretty much knocked it out of the park, as they really seemed to get his mannerisms down correctly, and Ayres' conveyed that quite well. The second one was when Goku finally referred to himself by his full name. That was absolutely awesome, Schemmel even pronounced it correctly. Props on him for actually wanting to do that. I'm sure there were quite a few of us who pretty much jumped up in happiness at that line. No more "hope of the universe" to worry about!

Still, it's not 100% perfect, but it is 1000% better than the original FUNi dub.
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Post by ABED » Tue May 28, 2013 7:26 pm

It didn't take that long. Raditz's dialog was close to the original. Also, two of the main characters' voices (Bulma and Gohan) I had the most problem with were recast, and Sabat dropped the gravel for his Piccolo voice. I just thought those things would be cool if they did them, but I never thought in my wildest dreams that it would actually happen.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue May 28, 2013 8:01 pm

For me, it was before the Kai dub. I had been keeping an eye on FUNimation's dubs of the videogames and the movies. I noticed gradual improvements in both the writing and the acting (they actually started pronouncing "Kaioken" properly in a videogame). Don't get me wrong, I LOVED the Kai dub, but I wasn't particularly suprised by the improvement in quality. It's one of the few things where I can actually say, "I saw it coming."
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Post by Ryuji-Otogi » Wed May 29, 2013 2:00 am

When we got word that Freeza would have a new voice.

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Post by penguintruth » Wed May 29, 2013 4:03 am

Sometime between Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat patting themselves on the back in those videos for doing their job correctly now and the end of the first week of episodes on Nicktoons.
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Post by ABED » Wed May 29, 2013 7:27 am

penguintruth wrote:Sometime between Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat patting themselves on the back in those videos for doing their job correctly now and the end of the first week of episodes on Nicktoons.
YOu really will find ANYTHING to criticize about the dub. You can't just seem to give a straight up compliment.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed May 29, 2013 11:43 am

Sometime during the watching of episodes on Nicktoons and discovering that I suddenly had this urge to buy the sets even though I had promised myself that I didn't need Kai, as I was able to bear the Z dub more than most and that Kai was the same thing just shorter...and then I suddenly found myself buying Kai sets anyway. Grr.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Wed May 29, 2013 12:16 pm

ABED wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Sometime between Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat patting themselves on the back in those videos for doing their job correctly now and the end of the first week of episodes on Nicktoons.
YOu really will find ANYTHING to criticize about the dub. You can't just seem to give a straight up compliment.
Why are you being so defensive? How is he even criticizing the dub with that comment? :?
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Post by oXdanXo » Wed May 29, 2013 1:07 pm

I thought they were doing fine all along, I was perfectly happy with the original dub. It's a great anime / cartoon that I enjoy the story and well I guess since the UK only had the 3 DVDs released all of which were really terrible dubs I wouldn't have ever had anything to complain about with Funi :)
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Post by ABED » Wed May 29, 2013 1:18 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
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penguintruth wrote:Sometime between Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat patting themselves on the back in those videos for doing their job correctly now and the end of the first week of episodes on Nicktoons.
YOu really will find ANYTHING to criticize about the dub. You can't just seem to give a straight up compliment.
Why are you being so defensive? How is he even criticizing the dub with that comment? :?
"Patting themselves on the back" implies a criticism, like they shouldn't be happy with what they did. Maybe I'm wrong, but given Penguintruth's general dislike of the dub, it doesn't seem out of place that he would give a backhanded compliment.
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Post by bkev » Wed May 29, 2013 2:31 pm

No actually I gotta agree with good old Penguintruth on this one. They came off as really smug and self-congratulating when they started promoting Kai...

As for me? I think I knew when everyone told me! :P I have no reason to not trust everyone's judgment from here.
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Post by ABED » Wed May 29, 2013 2:45 pm

bkev wrote:No actually I gotta agree with good old Penguintruth on this one. They came off as really smug and self-congratulating when they started promoting Kai...

As for me? I think I knew when everyone told me! :P I have no reason to not trust everyone's judgment from here.
I didn't get smug from that video at all. They came off as fans who finally got to do a much closer adaptation of the show like they wanted.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Wed May 29, 2013 4:58 pm

ABED wrote:
bkev wrote:No actually I gotta agree with good old Penguintruth on this one. They came off as really smug and self-congratulating when they started promoting Kai...

As for me? I think I knew when everyone told me! :P I have no reason to not trust everyone's judgment from here.
I didn't get smug from that video at all. They came off as fans who finally got to do a much closer adaptation of the show like they wanted.
Yeah, I didn't get a "smug" vibe from those vids. I wouldn't be surprised if they spiced up their wording a little bit for marketing purposes (those vids were being made with the intent of going up on FUNimation's various social media outlets and, in effect, marketing Kai), but they struck me as genuinely happy to get another shot at the dub. It's obvious both from those videos and from other comments they've made that they weren't entirely happy with how the Z dub was produced and held back a lot of their less-than-positive sentiments over the years, so those videos were an opportunity for them to just let it all out.

My thought is, if they're happy about how the Kai dub is being handled, they ought to be able to say that...not sure what's so bad about that.
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bkev wrote:No actually I gotta agree with good old Penguintruth on this one. They came off as really smug and self-congratulating when they started promoting Kai...

As for me? I think I knew when everyone told me! :P I have no reason to not trust everyone's judgment from here.
I didn't get smug from that video at all. They came off as fans who finally got to do a much closer adaptation of the show like they wanted.
Yeah, I didn't get a "smug" vibe from those vids. I wouldn't be surprised if they spiced up their wording a little bit for marketing purposes (those vids were being made with the intent of going up on FUNimation's various social media outlets and, in effect, marketing Kai), but they struck me as genuinely happy to get another shot at the dub. It's obvious both from those videos and from other comments they've made that they weren't entirely happy with how the Z dub was produced and held back a lot of their less-than-positive sentiments over the years, so those videos were an opportunity for them to just let it all out.

My thought is, if they're happy about how the Kai dub is being handled, they ought to be able to say that...not sure what's so bad about that.
I think enough time has passed where they can say what they feel without going on a rant against their employer. If they were in the thick of it, I do think they have a fiduciary responsibility to not berate the product.
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Post by El Diabeetus » Wed May 29, 2013 5:38 pm

I realized during Burst Limit actually, the voice work for the game was surprisingly higher quality and when Kai was annouced in Japan. I figured FUNimation would eventually dub it with the same type of enthusiasm and overall accuracy in it.

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Post by penguintruth » Wed May 29, 2013 10:34 pm

Come on, they had four five minute videos with Schemmel and Sabat practically making out.
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penguintruth wrote:Come on, they had four five minute videos with Schemmel and Sabat practically making out.
We get it, you don't like the dub. The videos were short, and they were enthusiastic about what they did. It seems like you will find any reason to knock them, even for something as innocuous as a short promo video. If they walked on water, you'd say, "Look, they can't swim!"
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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed May 29, 2013 11:34 pm

penguintruth wrote:Come on, they had four five minute videos with Schemmel and Sabat practically making out.
You sure that wasn't some fan video.
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Post by DBZ Mick » Thu May 30, 2013 3:06 am

Well, it happened when I flipped audios. I noticed that there was some real passion to the voices and it been accurate to the Japanese helped.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Post by JEFFMAN90 » Thu May 30, 2013 11:24 am

penguintruth wrote:Sometime between Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat patting themselves on the back in those videos for doing their job correctly now and the end of the first week of episodes on Nicktoons.

Will somebody tell this weabo penguintruth asshole to shut the hell up damn

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