Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Scarz]

You guys are ruining this special for me with your bullshit complaints and silly criticism. You're starting to sound like a bunch of whiny fanboys. Can we just accept that characters with literally no purpose appears and progresses the story in no way whatsoever, and Gohan is somehow able to defeat Dabura who should be significantly stronger than the androids even if his energy was drained, and that Vegeta trained Gohan to fight the androids even though that goes against the very nature of his character, and for some reason Gohan never told Trunks about this misadventure?

Damnit you guys! I didn't want to think about this!

[TheMightyOzaru]

You make it sound like we can't critique something =/. This special is the epitome of bull shit and it deserves to be torn a new one, especially with Salagir disrespecting the fans and the overall source material.

[miguelnuva1]

Is Scarz post a joke?

Anyway Salagir should have freedom with his manga but their should be a limit because he is using what has already been set up. Here's an example.

13,14 and 15 show up and Gohan beats them. Meta Cooler appears, Gohan beats him. Cell appears and Gohan has a rage boost and drives him away. Dabura is way to far out of Gohan's reach power wise.

[RandomGuy96]

Gohan beating Metal Cooler (who can stomp 17 and 18 into the ground, as demonstrated with his "fights" with Vegeta, Goku, and especially Kamiccolo) and Androids 13, 14, and 15 (two of which are stronger than Android Arc Goku, who is much stronger than Yardrat Goku, who is stronger than Future Gohan) would be just as bullshit as Gohan beating Dabura, even normal Cooler should be way out of Gohan's league... wait, what's your post supposed to be saying?

Scarz is definitely joking.

[Saiga]

@rereboy That backstory for Broli is cool and all but I don't think it can ever be as good as simply not making Broli that strong. Then again, when I was thinking of ideas of how I'd do a DBM-esque story I had Hildegaan wanked up even higher than Broli was, which isn't much better.

[DNA]

@rereboy That backstory for Broli is cool and all but I don't think it can ever be as good as simply not making Broli that strong. :P Then again, when I was thinking of ideas of how I'd do a DBM-esque story I had Hildegaan wanked up even higher than Broli was, which isn't much better.

I don't see what the problem is in making Broli stronger if you can do it sensibly and logically. He is a Saiyan, so it's the same principal as making Goku or Vegeta stronger, except Broli has more potential.

If there was a logical and plausible explanation for Broli's immense power up, like rereboy presented, then I could more easily swallow the fact that he can exchange blows with base Vegetto. Also, that Vegetto might be weaker then the one we are used to. Remember, everyone was weaker in Trunks's timeline.

The stupidity and arrogance starts right when we see Broli encased in ice. He's at his "Legendary" form, simply because Salagir thought it would be cool. Guess what dickwad? It wasn't.

For example, I think it would be cool if Upa was stronger and could exchange blows with the likes of Cell or higher, I wouldn't explore that option unless I had a really good fucking explanation.

"It's my doujinshi." "I think it looks cool." "It's happening, whether you like it or not." These are not plausible explanations, these are the excuses of a piss-poor writer.

[Saiga]

I meant to make him as strong as he is in the comic, being between SS2 and SS3 Vegetto . I think that's a bad idea, even if it is handled well. I could buy him being stronger than Goku/Vegeta/Gohan if it was handled well, just not stronger than Vegetto.

[Godo]

Am I the only one feeling sorry for Dabra at this point? The poor sap is brainwashed and only wants the best for Babidi.
It's like looking at a dig being put down.

As for Gohan beating Dabra? I don't mind it that much to be honest. It's just cool to see more of Future Gohan. Even though the fight doesn't make sense,

Future Gohan can't beat Future #17 and #18 which are weaker than Main #17 and #18, yet he can beat Dabra who is as strong as Cell. No, I'm not cool with it, it doesn't make a single lick of sense. It's preposterous.

Bah, it's a manga, not a religion.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Am I the only one feeling sorry for Dabra at this point? The poor sap is brainwashed and only wants the best for Babidi.
It's like looking at a dig being put down.

As for Gohan beating Dabra? I don't mind it that much to be honest. It's just cool to see more of Future Gohan. Even though the fight doesn't make sense,

Future Gohan can't beat Future #17 and #18 which are weaker than Main #17 and #18, yet he can beat Dabra who is as strong as Cell. No, I'm not cool with it, it doesn't make a single lick of sense. It's preposterous.

Bah, it's a manga, not a religion.

A poorly written one. Stuff as obvious as this can't be ignored.

[rereboy]

@rereboy That backstory for Broli is cool and all but I don't think it can ever be as good as simply not making Broli that strong. Then again, when I was thinking of ideas of how I'd do a DBM-esque story I had Hildegaan wanked up even higher than Broli was, which isn't much better.

Of course there are always better options. The absolute best possible is something that can't be reached, there is always something better. However, I do think that what I wrote would work fairly well if it was written properly (if we don't want to drastically change DBM's overall plot of course ). In fact, I've often considered doing a DBM rewrite in a fan fiction, more to my benefit than anything else, just to keep what I think is good about it and adapt or change what is bad, kind of like what I'm doing with my Future Buu fan fiction.

[TonyTheTiger]

My biggest beef isn't necessarily Gohan winning. It's that the whole thing comes down to 100% dumb luck. Of course Gohan wouldn't have to outsmart them, force some kind of uneasy alliance with the Androids, or any number of semi-plausible explanations that involve preventing Buu's release without single-handedly overpowering his opponents. Nope, Dabra just gets weaker! Success!

[DNA]

My biggest beef isn't necessarily Gohan winning. It's that the whole thing comes down to 100% dumb luck. Of course Gohan wouldn't have to outsmart them, force some kind of uneasy alliance with the Androids, or any number of semi-plausible explanations that involve preventing Buu's release without single-handedly overpowering his opponents. Nope, Dabra just gets weaker! Success!

Yeah but all that would require actual writing skills.

[Godo]

A poorly written one. Stuff as obvious as this can't be ignored.

After watching Broly going head-to-head to Vegetto, nothing really surprises me.
What bothers me, though, is Salagir's attitude.
This single special IMO isn't as bullshitty as much of the other content we have gotten.

[Saiga]

Of course there are always better options. The absolute best possible is something that can't be reached, there is always something better. However, I do think that what I wrote would work fairly well if it was written properly (if we don't want to drastically change DBM's overall plot of course ). In fact, I've often considered doing a DBM rewrite in a fan fiction, more to my benefit than anything else, just to keep what I think is good about it and adapt or change what is bad, kind of like what I'm doing with my Future Buu fan fiction.

Ah, I see. I'm different, my hypothetical Multiverse wasn't going to be a rewrite but something as different as I could possibly manage. No Vargas or Namekians organizing it, for starters, set in a different time, etc... the multiversal tournament idea is the only thing I'd actually keep (aside from some basic ideas, like a Universe of Earthlings).

[Hellspawn28]

I think PGV's Dragon Ball story about Buu in Trunks timeline was better then this special. I rather play through the story in Shin Budokai 2 again then read this special.

[dbzfan7]

Babidi is a moron now?

[coola]

How Babidi survived that?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

How Babidi survived that?

He used Dabra as a shield. And now Dabra is gone...

[TheMightyOzaru]

papara papa, that's how.

[dbzfan7]

papara papa, that's how.

Not Paparapapa

Bon Para Para