The Chōzenshū databook thread: speculation, discussion, etc.

[B]

Meanwhile, perhaps ask if this seller at Rakuten still has any.

Thank you. But since they don't ship to the United States, I'll have to keep looking.

You can use Mail Order Japan to buy things that don't ship out of Japan. They've been nothing but helpful to me.

[Jawdrahb]

If you do use

Meanwhile, perhaps ask if this seller at Rakuten still has any.

Thank you. But since they don't ship to the United States, I'll have to keep looking.

You can use Mail Order Japan to buy things that don't ship out of Japan. They've been nothing but helpful to me.

If you do end up using this or a similar service, I believe they have one left.

[theoriginalbilis]

Shit, YesAsia canceled my Chogashu order saying it was discovered to be "Out-of-Print." Can anyone link me to a site where I can still buy the Chogashu?

The same thing just happened to me. Bummer. The listings on CDJapan, Amazon Japan, and PlayAsia are all Out-of-Print. I'd be very grateful if somebody could point me in the direction of another online retailer that perhaps has some stock. Thanks.

There's no way that it's already gone Out-of-Print on a permanent basis. It hasn't exactly been on sale for a vast amount of time, so I'm sure a few more batches will crop up in the coming weeks. Saying that, money has been tight recently and I really put off getting the Chozenshuus and the Chogashu, but I just barely secured my copy of the latter before CD Japan changed the listing. Noticed that the first Chozenshu had gone out of print too, so I ended up resorting to paying a little more than I'd like to on eBay. Anyway, now I've committed to buying them all I should definitely get a move on ordering the rest of them... But I won't have the money for about another week, so fingers-crossed volumes 2-4 are still available!

Hmm... thanks for the advice. You're probably right; they probably just sold through their current stock on hand. I mean, the Chogashu's only been out a month or so... I may just wait for CDJapan to get more copies in if they can. I refuse to pay more than $70 for it, and the rest of these services just don't seem as good as CDJapan, Play-Asia, or YesAsia. And I realllly don't want to pay the scalper prices on Ebay.

[omegalucas]

It finally arrived! And it's incredible

[Cold Skin]

^ Aaaah, seeing just that picture makes me eager to have mine (it shipped a few days ago).

I already have the first Daizenshu, so I will discover how they reorganized those pictures I already knew, and discover a ton of new pictures I didn't know (among those published after the first Daizenshu).

Little trivia stuff: it seems one picture was censored in the French edition of the first Daizenshu back then, so I'll have it uncensored with the Chogashu. Luckily, all other pictures were left totally untouched!!
I'll let you guys guess what was the picture that needed to be tweaked (I've never seen the original, it's just an asumption, but the way it's done, it REALLY seems like something that wasn't part of the original picture and was a quick censorship edit)!

The manga was never censored in France despite going much further, so this decision about that Daizenshu picture was probably taken because it was believed the artbook could also appeal to anime fans - and those were used to the heavily censored stuff back then, so...

[omegalucas]

I'll let you guys guess what was the picture that needed to be tweaked (I've never seen the original, it's just an asumption, but the way it's done, it REALLY seems like something that wasn't part of the original picture and was a quick censorship edit)!

Is it Kame Sen'nin's picture of Bulma in the bathtub from 1987? In an overview of "Le Grand Livre de Dragon Ball" it seems like she is wearing a bra while in my Chozenshu she only has the tan lines of someone who sunbathed with a bra on.

EDIT: Found a picture of that page in the web and it seems it's not that one.

[theoriginalbilis]

Just for the record, YesAsia's Chogashu listing says "temporarily out of stock", and they have a free E-mail Reminder service which notifies you when that item come back in stock. So I went ahead and put myself on the notification list. http://www.yesasia.com/us/dragon-ball-s ... /info.html

If you still want the item, and didn't jump on it right away, this is a pretty good option.

[Saiga]

Wow, that really does look incredible. I want to buy it now. @_@

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I received my Chozenshu #4 and Chogashu today (finally), and I'm equally happy with both books. The new pieces in the Chogashu are great to finally see in-person. Chozenshu #4, while significantly lacking in images compared to the previous volumes and focusing much more on text, is just as amazing. There is actually a lot of concept/production sketches for the anime exclusive material in the book that I don't remember seeing elsewhere. Those from GT are the ones I'm most interested in, like Bihe, Planet Tsufru/Plant, Bluma's tower that she dispenses the Bruits Waves from, Pital, Sugoroku Space, etc. I don't own the GT Perfect Files (though I'm willing to buy 'em if anyone here ever decides to offer them up, mint and cheap), so I don't know if those books contained them or not, but still interesting to see.

[Cold Skin]

I'll let you guys guess what was the picture that needed to be tweaked (I've never seen the original, it's just an asumption, but the way it's done, it REALLY seems like something that wasn't part of the original picture and was a quick censorship edit)!

Is it Kame Sen'nin's picture of Bulma in the bathtub from 1987? In an overview of "Le Grand Livre de Dragon Ball" it seems like she is wearing a bra while in my Chozenshu she only has the tan lines of someone who sunbathed with a bra on.

EDIT: Found a picture of that page in the web and it seems it's not that one.

It IS that one, actually!
Or maybe I'm wrong and the original picture is like this, but that would be surprising: Toriyama never shied away from showing Bulma's full breasts (and on that picture they're hidden by her arm), a girl rarely takes a bath with a bra as far as I know, and the thing really seems like they colored the skin like a quick edit to make it look like she's wearing a bra.

Here's the picture I always assumed was censored - luckily the only one they edited -, but maybe I was wrong all along, maybe the original Japanese is like this too (but I don't think so):

[Kamiccolo9]

So, I'm pretty sure that this has already been asked, but this is a pretty big thread, and I don't really want to have to look through the whole thing
Is all the content from the Daizenshuu either present or updated in the Chozenshu?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It IS that one, actually!
Or maybe I'm wrong and the original picture is like this, but that would be surprising: Toriyama never shied away from showing Bulma's full breasts (and on that picture they're hidden by her arm), a girl rarely takes a bath with a bra as far as I know, and the thing really seems like they colored the skin like a quick edit to make it look like she's wearing a bra.

Here's the picture I always assumed was censored - luckily the only one they edited -, but maybe I was wrong all along, maybe the original Japanese is like this too (but I don't think so):

It's not edited; that's supposed to be a tan line from a bikini.

[Cold Skin]

It IS that one, actually!
Or maybe I'm wrong and the original picture is like this, but that would be surprising: Toriyama never shied away from showing Bulma's full breasts (and on that picture they're hidden by her arm), a girl rarely takes a bath with a bra as far as I know, and the thing really seems like they colored the skin like a quick edit to make it look like she's wearing a bra.

Here's the picture I always assumed was censored - luckily the only one they edited -, but maybe I was wrong all along, maybe the original Japanese is like this too (but I don't think so):

It's not edited; that's supposed to be a tan line from a bikini.

Okay, glad to know I was wrong all along, that means we indeed had the Daizenshuu as-is!
That explains why you can see the "near-neck bones" when they would be hidden by the bra if she was wearing one drawn by Toriyama (I always thought it was a bra, and since it seemed like something without relief - on the very same level than the skin, without borders, and with the bones appearing - it seemed like poorly "painted over", quickly added bra).

It's the first time I do see tan lines in a manga, it never even occured to me that manga artists could bother about such a level of details like "before that she's been sunbathing a lot, and since she was obviously wearing a bra, I'll give her tan lines", which is likely why the idea of tan lines on that picture never even popped in my mind for about 20 years (that and the fact that sometimes, poorly-edited added shorts in some US anime version do look like quickly painted-over underwear without actual texture)!

[Jawdrahb]

Meanwhile, perhaps ask if this seller at Rakuten still has any.

I ended up contacting them myself and surprisingly enough:

漫画全巻ドットコムです。

お問い合わせ商品「DRAGON BALL super collection of pictures 」
ですが、現在在庫を切らしており、出版社より取り寄せとなります。
（印刷待ちですが、詳しい日程は未定となります。）

また、アメリカへのお届けは可能です。
ご注文後、お届け先の住所を確認し見積もりを連絡いたします。

宜しくお願いいたします。

But, we are currently out of stock, will be ordered from the publisher.
(It is waiting to be printed, but it is undetermined detailed schedule.)

In addition, sending it to the United States is possible.
After an order, we will contact the estimate confirm your address of the destination.

Thank you.

It's safe to assume as SSJ_Catacomb said, the Chōgashū will probably "crop up in the coming weeks". Why they replied in Japanese? That's for another thread.

[medama_oyaji]

My Chogashu arrived today and it's GORGEOUS! The paper is so thick!! The whole thing feels really solid and great. Even thought I have several Toriyama art books, there were a lot of things I'd never seen before. Love it.

[SSJJezter]

Okay, I'm unsure about getting the Chogashu because it's in Japanese. Is there any chance of an English release? We got the Daizenshuu... I may just go for it though to avoid missing out, it looks so beautiful...

[Kamiccolo9]

Okay, I'm unsure about getting the Chogashu because it's in Japanese. Is there any chance of an English release? We got the Daizenshuu... I may just go for it though to avoid missing out, it looks so beautiful...

I thought we only got the first Daizenshuu. Were the others released too?

[SSJJezter]

Yeah, just the first one, but that's an art book, like the Chogashu, so I thought maybe... possibly... hopefully...

[Bejiita]

Mine arrived on Saturday, I'm pleased with it, but what fucked me is the price, the shipping cost the same price as the bleeding book! I ended up paying like about £48 in total, it's a really nice book, and a must have, but I guess the pages could have been a bit bigger, seeing as it has loads of pages it's tough to fully open up the book in the center to see the complete image of the double page pictures, and I don't wanna stretch it out so if it were a big bigger it would have been awesome, some of the images are so small and all but oh well.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

Well, I only own the two Perfect File re-prints and the first Daizenshuu so I'm definitely gonna pick these up. Glad that I didn't fork out $40 for the World Guide a couple of months ago.

I found all the Daizenshuu's on Amazon but at $50 a pop and used.
Has anyone purchased any of the Chozenshuu's? What's the quality and are they worth the purchase?

Okay, I'm unsure about getting the Chogashu because it's in Japanese. Is there any chance of an English release? We got the Daizenshuu... I may just go for it though to avoid missing out, it looks so beautiful...

I thought we only got the first Daizenshuu. Were the others released too?

We only got the Complete Illistrations or Daizenshuu #1.