Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ: "Rock the Dragon" Set

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:51 am

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by 90sDBZ » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:25 am

NitroEX wrote:But surely if it's called the "rock the dragon" edition that means they're using the theme song which I assume was also owned by Saban right?

If they can get the theme song why can't they get the score?
Hopefully both the theme song and the score come hand-in-hand. The US release of the Budokai HD Collection included Rock the Dragon so they had no problem using that then. I'm sure they'll include it otherwise it'll fail as a nostalgia product.

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Post by Ryuji-Otogi » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:44 pm

It'll have the original replacement music. They didn't include it in the item's description because they didn't feel it needed explaining. Of course Rock the Dragon will be in it, it's in the name of the product.

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by Fennekin » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:48 pm

Now that I know the price is actually $100, it's a bit too steep for me, especially since I just finished buying Z Kai. I'll hold off until I'm more sure.

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Post by Kendamu » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:52 pm

Fennekin wrote:Now that I know the price is actually $100, it's a bit too steep for me, especially since I just finished buying Z Kai. I'll hold off until I'm more sure.
MSRP is $100. You can get it for $60 at RightStuf.

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Post by ShadowDude112 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:16 pm

You know, if this weren't $60, I'd be okay with it. But it is $60 and that is baffling. I know FUNi needs to make a profit, but come on! You expect people to pay $60 for a butchered show? Cuts to episodes, edits, bad video quality and all? No, this is so stupid. I would have bought this, because the only think Ocean related I have is the first 3 movies, but for this price, sorry, that's not happening. If it was $40, I'd be okay with it. But $60? No, sorry. I am just not okay with that.
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ShadowDude112 wrote:You know, if this weren't $60, I'd be okay with it. But it is $60 and that is baffling. I know FUNi needs to make a profit, but come on! You expect people to pay $60 for a butchered show? Cuts to episodes, edits, bad video quality and all? No, this is so stupid. I would have bought this, because the only think Ocean related I have is the first 3 movies, but for this price, sorry, that's not happening. If it was $40, I'd be okay with it. But $60? No, sorry. I am just not okay with that.
It's 53 Episodes, 3 movies and a 40 page booklet. 60 bucks is about right.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ShadowDude112 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:26 pm

ABED wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:You know, if this weren't $60, I'd be okay with it. But it is $60 and that is baffling. I know FUNi needs to make a profit, but come on! You expect people to pay $60 for a butchered show? Cuts to episodes, edits, bad video quality and all? No, this is so stupid. I would have bought this, because the only think Ocean related I have is the first 3 movies, but for this price, sorry, that's not happening. If it was $40, I'd be okay with it. But $60? No, sorry. I am just not okay with that.
It's 53 Episodes, 3 movies and a 40 page booklet. 60 bucks is about right.
Big whoop. Just because this is nostalgia marketed and the like, should not justify spending $60 on an inferior product.
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Post by El Diabeetus » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:28 pm

I wonder what they'll do after this, this is really milking the cow. This is milking the cow's children at this point.

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SSJ4 Furanki wrote:I wonder what they'll do after this, this is really milking the cow. This is milking the cow's children at this point.
I say milk it for all it's worth. The more Dragon Ball the better.
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Post by ABED » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:33 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:
ABED wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:You know, if this weren't $60, I'd be okay with it. But it is $60 and that is baffling. I know FUNi needs to make a profit, but come on! You expect people to pay $60 for a butchered show? Cuts to episodes, edits, bad video quality and all? No, this is so stupid. I would have bought this, because the only think Ocean related I have is the first 3 movies, but for this price, sorry, that's not happening. If it was $40, I'd be okay with it. But $60? No, sorry. I am just not okay with that.
It's 53 Episodes, 3 movies and a 40 page booklet. 60 bucks is about right.
Big whoop. Just because this is nostalgia marketed and the like, should not justify spending $60 on an inferior product.
Then don't buy it! You are under no obligation to do so. Considering the runtime of the set, 60 is a bargain.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by El Diabeetus » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:41 pm

ABED wrote:
SSJ4 Furanki wrote:I wonder what they'll do after this, this is really milking the cow. This is milking the cow's children at this point.
I say milk it for all it's worth. The more Dragon Ball the better.
I'm all for more Dragon Ball, but how about a release that isn't more of the same shit from 15+ years ago? I know there are still probably rights issues, how about the Jump Super Anime Tour Special? Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans? Episode of Bardock? Battle of the Gods? I know with BotG it's just a matter of when and how everything ties in with Fox. But, I don't know. The only way they could get be to buy DBZ (even movies) again, is if they do a total re-do dub even more accurate than Kai and Stereo quality for the Japanese track. Still gotta get the movies and original DB, but as far as Z goes we haven't gotten anything new that we know exists. I own the whole series proper and it's just kinda annoying to see the same thing released, again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again. They had something with the Level Sets, but that's about it. I'd re-buy GT and buy Dragon Ball and all of the movies if we get Dragon Boxes for those. I will buy the rest of Kai when it's out.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ShadowDude112 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:43 pm

ABED wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:
ABED wrote: It's 53 Episodes, 3 movies and a 40 page booklet. 60 bucks is about right.
Big whoop. Just because this is nostalgia marketed and the like, should not justify spending $60 on an inferior product.
Then don't buy it! You are under no obligation to do so. Considering the runtime of the set, 60 is a bargain.
I don't care if I don't have to buy it. What I'm saying is this release is a waste of time. I don't understand why FUNi would release this when so many people were asking for Dragon Boxes. Literally, I don't understand this "We can't find Dragon Boxes on store shelves." But then you do this, and this looks like it would take up a lot of store shelf space. It's entirely unnecessary.
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Post by ABED » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:49 pm

Even if a lot of people ask for Dragon Boxes, it's not something that's completely in their hands. They can't just snap their fingers, they have to get the license. This is something that's fully in their control. Maybe they're wrong, but they think there's a market for this release, and enough demand to justify the price tag.

Who cares if it's unneccessary? None of it is neccessary.
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:52 pm

ABED wrote:Even if a lot of people ask for Dragon Boxes, it's not something that's completely in their hands. They can't just snap their fingers, they have to get the license. This is something that's fully in their control. Maybe they're wrong, but they think there's a market for this release, and enough demand to justify the price tag.

Who cares if it's unneccessary? None of it is neccessary.
They have the movies! They can release more Dragon Boxes. In fact, this seems harder to release because they have to get the right to the Shuki Levy score, and a bunch of other dumb stuff this dub had. If they release the movies and people buy them, then we could see Dragon Boxes for the original Dragon Ball and GT. The reason this is a stupid release if because something so much better could actually be released instead.
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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ShadowDude112 wrote:
ABED wrote:Even if a lot of people ask for Dragon Boxes, it's not something that's completely in their hands. They can't just snap their fingers, they have to get the license. This is something that's fully in their control. Maybe they're wrong, but they think there's a market for this release, and enough demand to justify the price tag.

Who cares if it's unneccessary? None of it is neccessary.
They have the movies! They can release more Dragon Boxes. In fact, this seems harder to release because they have to get the right to the Shuki Levy score, and a bunch of other dumb stuff this dub had. If they release the movies and people buy them, then we could see Dragon Boxes for the original Dragon Ball and GT. The reason this is a stupid release if because something so much better could actually be released instead.
No one seems to know if that's the case that they have the movies and again, they don't have the license for the other dragon boxes. None of these things are easy decisions, but clearly they think this will sell. It may not be new for you, but many fans didn't grow up with this dub. I think the voices alone make it enjoyable. If they are just sitting on the movies, maybe it's because the Dragon Boxes didn't sell that well. I'm not in a big rush to buy that Dragon box. I have the singles of the movies that aren't cropped. I know the frame was drawn with cropping in mind, but I still prefer the full image, which the singles provide. I would like the Dragon Boxes for DB and GT, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by penguintruth » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:56 pm

How about they go and redub DBZ movies 4-13 with the Ocean VAs? I'd buy that.

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ShadowDude112 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:58 pm

ABED wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote: They have the movies! They can release more Dragon Boxes. In fact, this seems harder to release because they have to get the right to the Shuki Levy score, and a bunch of other dumb stuff this dub had. If they release the movies and people buy them, then we could see Dragon Boxes for the original Dragon Ball and GT. The reason this is a stupid release if because something so much better could actually be released instead.
No one seems to know if that's the case that they have the movies and again, they don't have the license for the other dragon boxes. None of these things are easy decisions, but clearly they think this will sell. It may not be new for you, but many fans didn't grow up with this dub. I think the voices alone make it enjoyable.
They said in their press release back in 2009 they had the Dragon Box versions of all of Z and the 13 movies. You know what that means? THEY HAVE THE MOVIES! They've had the movies for almost 4 years now, and have yet to release them. Which they should have done already. But no, we need "hurr, muh nostalgia boxset!"
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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ShadowDude112 wrote:
ABED wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote: They have the movies! They can release more Dragon Boxes. In fact, this seems harder to release because they have to get the right to the Shuki Levy score, and a bunch of other dumb stuff this dub had. If they release the movies and people buy them, then we could see Dragon Boxes for the original Dragon Ball and GT. The reason this is a stupid release if because something so much better could actually be released instead.
No one seems to know if that's the case that they have the movies and again, they don't have the license for the other dragon boxes. None of these things are easy decisions, but clearly they think this will sell. It may not be new for you, but many fans didn't grow up with this dub. I think the voices alone make it enjoyable.
They said in their press release back in 2009 they had the Dragon Box versions of all of Z and the 13 movies. You know what that means? THEY HAVE THE MOVIES! They've had the movies for almost 4 years now, and have yet to release them. Which they should have done already. But no, we need "hurr, muh nostalgia boxset!"
So do you think they are just sitting on it to frustrate you or because they don't like money?
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ShadowDude112 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:01 am

ABED wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:
ABED wrote: They said in their press release back in 2009 they had the Dragon Box versions of all of Z and the 13 movies. You know what that means? THEY HAVE THE MOVIES! They've had the movies for almost 4 years now, and have yet to release them. Which they should have done already. But no, we need "hurr, muh nostalgia boxset!"
So do you think they are just sitting on it to frustrate you or because they don't like money?
No, but it would make more sense for them to release the movies than this. That's the point I'm making, you just don't seem to get that. They have the movies, so why waste time releasing something that's not the movies?
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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