Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[dbzfan7]

Is Dabura immune to his own spit? I can imagine a few ways in which Gohan can "win" without actually fighting his way to the victory. You'd think the guy who survived the Androids for so long would be clever enough to outwit a stronger opponent. You could easily tell this same story without the contrivances of the Vegeta training and a weakened Dabura. This goes double if Trunks and the Androids were involved in some capacity. Of all the possible ways to tell this particular story, "Gohan shows up alone...Dabura gets stupidly weak...Gohan wins" is literally the most boring one imaginable. And that's not even taking into account the pointlessness of the Vegeta training. It's easy enough to justify this Gohan being harsher given his predicament without trying to shoehorn "Vegeta made him like this" into it.

Gohan getting Dabra's spit to hit himself is unlikely and I have no idea how that could happen. But it's still better than this nonsensical special.

I don't think people under the Majin influence can donate ki. I can't confirm it, but It would explain why they never just made Dabra donate his ki several times. I think it may have been mentioned that it would be Goku's ki that goes to Boo every time he takes damage. IDK.

[Kamiccolo9]

Is Dabura immune to his own spit? I can imagine a few ways in which Gohan can "win" without actually fighting his way to the victory. You'd think the guy who survived the Androids for so long would be clever enough to outwit a stronger opponent. You could easily tell this same story without the contrivances of the Vegeta training and a weakened Dabura. This goes double if Trunks and the Androids were involved in some capacity. Of all the possible ways to tell this particular story, "Gohan shows up alone...Dabura gets stupidly weak...Gohan wins" is literally the most boring one imaginable. And that's not even taking into account the pointlessness of the Vegeta training. It's easy enough to justify this Gohan being harsher given his predicament without trying to shoehorn "Vegeta made him like this" into it.

Gohan getting Dabra's spit to hit himself is unlikely and I have no idea how that could happen. But it's still better than this nonsensical special.

Maybe he could do a kiai and knock it back on him or something?
I would imagine that his spit would work on himself. The only thing we really have to compare with would be Buu being transformed by his own deflected technique.

[Kaboom]

The PSP game was worse than this.
Much, much worse.

Yeah, I'd have to agree. In terms of story, "let's shoehorn EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER IN THE GAME into the story" is much worse than "let's weaken Dabra somehow so that Super Saiyan Future Gohan can beat him."

I still would have figured out something better than this, though. Let's see what I can brainstorm...

Young Future Trunks is off training somewhere as a Super Saiyan. Pui-Pui (no Spopovich or Yamu in this universe) suddenly attacks him from the shadows and siphons his ki away with the ki-counter/sucker thing (Trunks doesn't see him coming, falls unconscious, wakes up later not knowing what happened). Gohan is nearby, senses Trunks' power drop, and rushes to the scene just in time to see Pui-Pui finish up and flee. Once he makes sure Trunks isn't dead, Gohan takes off in pursuit. He easily catches up to Pui-Pui and beats some information out of him, learning about Bobbidi, Boo, etc, then kills him.

Gohan goes to where Bobbidi's spaceship is, and is lured inside somehow. Knowing Gohan's already taken out Pui-Pui, Bobbidi skips ahead and sics Yakon on him. With some difficulty, Gohan manages to beat Yakon, too. Gohan intends to blast his way down after that, so Bobbidi uses magic to plunk him back outside the ship, and sends Dabra out to fight him. Dabra takes his time inflicting damage and wearing Gohan down. Gohan, however, manages to get himself knocked over into a nearby cliffside where, while Dabra's in pursuit, he reaches behind a rock and pulls out the ki-stealing device he took from Pui-Pui, having hidden it there before he entered Bobbidi's ship. He turns around and stabs Dabra with it by surprise, siphoning away almost all of Dabra's power. Gohan then kills Dabra and destroys the device to make sure none of that energy goes to Majin Boo. He then takes off again down through the ship to face Bobbidi.

Bobbidi panics, and decides to release Majin Boo anyway, hoping that the power he's restored from damaging Gohan will be enough to at least save him. But at the same time, Gohan summons all his remaining power and attacks Boo's shell-ball, trying to disrupt the process. Like in the original manga, the ball breaks in half, seems empty at first until Gohan sees the pink smoke and senses the ki from it... except this time, the smoke doesn't form anything. Majin Boo doesn't even have enough power to manifest himself, and both the smoke and ki within it fade away to nothing. Boo's revival is prevented, Gohan promptly kills Bobbidi and blows up the ship, and takes off into the sunset.


Elsewhere on Earth, the Androids get the jump on Kibito and kill him. Kaioshin is left with no way to leave Earth, and wanders aimlessly across the mostly-barren planet until he eventually drowns to death by looking up at the sky in a rainstorm.

[dbzfan7]

Is Dabura immune to his own spit? I can imagine a few ways in which Gohan can "win" without actually fighting his way to the victory. You'd think the guy who survived the Androids for so long would be clever enough to outwit a stronger opponent. You could easily tell this same story without the contrivances of the Vegeta training and a weakened Dabura. This goes double if Trunks and the Androids were involved in some capacity. Of all the possible ways to tell this particular story, "Gohan shows up alone...Dabura gets stupidly weak...Gohan wins" is literally the most boring one imaginable. And that's not even taking into account the pointlessness of the Vegeta training. It's easy enough to justify this Gohan being harsher given his predicament without trying to shoehorn "Vegeta made him like this" into it.

Gohan getting Dabra's spit to hit himself is unlikely and I have no idea how that could happen. But it's still better than this nonsensical special.

Maybe he could do a kiai and knock it back on him or something?
I would imagine that his spit would work on himself. The only thing we really have to compare with would be Buu being transformed by his own deflected technique.

I was thinking on the lines of Looney Tunes where Gohan is right above Dabra, so when he spits upwards, it comes back down and hits himself.

[Kamiccolo9]

I was thinking on the lines of Looney Tunes where Gohan is right above Dabra, so when he spits upwards, it comes back down and hits himself.

I like it. The special could have used a little humor

[RandomGuy96]

I don't know. Kaioshin was scared shitless of the dude for a reason. Something tells me paralyzing him wouldn't be so easy. Dabura has haxed abilities on his side as well such as the stone spit.

Kaioshin should be able to easily paralyze and then eye beam him with absolute ease. He did it to someone who was apparently almost twice as strong as Dabura. He's just a wuss.

[dbzfan7]

The PSP game was worse than this.
Much, much worse.

Yeah, I'd have to agree. In terms of story, "let's shoehorn EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER IN THE GAME into the story" is much worse than "let's weaken Dabra somehow so that Super Saiyan Future Gohan can beat him."

I still would have figured out something better than this, though. Let's see what I can brainstorm...

Young Future Trunks is off training somewhere as a Super Saiyan. Pui-Pui (no Spopovich or Yamu in this universe) suddenly attacks him from the shadows and siphons his ki away with the ki-counter/sucker thing (Trunks doesn't see him coming, falls unconscious, wakes up later not knowing what happened). Gohan is nearby, senses Trunks' power drop, and rushes to the scene just in time to see Pui-Pui finish up and flee. Once he makes sure Trunks isn't dead, Gohan takes off in pursuit. He easily catches up to Pui-Pui and beats some information out of him, learning about Bobbidi, Boo, etc, then kills him.

Gohan goes to where Bobbidi's spaceship is, and is lured inside somehow. Knowing Gohan's already taken out Pui-Pui, Bobbidi skips ahead and sics Yakon on him. With some difficulty, Gohan manages to beat Yakon, too. Gohan intends to blast his way down after that, so Bobbidi uses magic to plunk him back outside the ship, and sends Dabra out to fight him. Dabra takes his time inflicting damage and wearing Gohan down. Gohan, however, manages to get himself knocked over into a nearby cliffside where, while Dabra's in pursuit, he reaches behind a rock and pulls out the ki-stealing device he took from Pui-Pui, having hidden it there before he entered Bobbidi's ship. He turns around and stabs Dabra with it by surprise, siphoning away almost all of Dabra's power. Gohan then kills Dabra and destroys the device to make sure none of that energy goes to Majin Boo. He then takes off again down through the ship to face Bobbidi.

Bobbidi panics, and decides to release Majin Boo anyway, hoping that the power he's restored from damaging Gohan will be enough to at least save him. But at the same time, Gohan summons all his remaining power and attacks Boo's shell-ball, trying to disrupt the process. Like in the original manga, the ball breaks in half, seems empty at first until Gohan sees the pink smoke and senses the ki from it... except this time, the smoke doesn't form anything. Majin Boo doesn't even have enough power to manifest himself, and both the smoke and ki within it fade away to nothing. Boo's revival is prevented, Gohan promptly kills Bobbidi and blows up the ship, and takes off into the sunset.


Elsewhere on Earth, the Androids get the jump on Kibito and kill him. Kaioshin is left with no way to leave Earth, and wanders aimlessly across the mostly-barren planet until he eventually drowns to death by looking up at the sky in a rainstorm.

Sounds great. Except didn't Kaioshin have to restrain Gohan the whole duration of the Ki sucking machine? Also I can't see Kaioshin dying like that even if it is funny.

[Kaboom]

Sounds great. Except didn't Kaioshin have to restrain Gohan the whole duration of the Ki sucking machine? Also I can't see Kaioshin dying like that even if it is funny.

He only died like that because I totally forgot to include him at all until I'd already finished writing. If I'd remembered, I would have had him die in a totally different and worthwhile way.

[Rocketman]

Like the chat idea where Supreme Kai is killed by Dabura, but the clash leaves Dabura weak enough that Gohan can finish him off.

[dbzfan7]

Sounds great. Except didn't Kaioshin have to restrain Gohan the whole duration of the Ki sucking machine? Also I can't see Kaioshin dying like that even if it is funny.

He only died like that because I totally forgot to include him at all until I'd already finished writing. If I'd remembered, I would have had him die in a totally different and worthwhile way.

And what about the ki sucking machine. I think Kaioshin had to restrain Gohan throughout the duration of the ki draining.

[RandomGuy96]

Like I said, I'd just not make this special. It's not one that needs to be made.

[TonyTheTiger]

Problem with bringing in Kaioshin is that there's no way to make him come off as anything but an asshole. "Oh, hai Gohan. I came to help save the world from Babidi and...hey this place is a dump. You should really do something about that."

[RandomGuy96]

You'd also have to get really contrived so that Kaioshin doesn't simply one-shot the androids.

Also, you think that Gohan would mention meeting Satan and the King of Gods to Trunks, who would in turn mention it to Goku. "Oh, and those androids I mentioned? Those guys are absolute trash compared to this even greater monster, a being whose power dwarfs any other in the universe. Actually, no, never mind, it's probably nothing to worry about".

[miguelnuva1]

There use to be a rule that you could put Future Gohan on anything DBZ related and it would turn out at least half cool.

Then this special came out.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Stealing bits from Rocketman and Kaboom to form this thing...

Babidi arrives on Earth to find it in ruin. He knows Kaioshin will come to kill him like he did his father. With no huge power levels or large population to draw energy from to resurrect Buu, he's getting desperate. Gohan follows Pui Pui back to the ship after an energy collection mission and ends up killing him in front of Babidi, who told him to attack. Babidi rushes inside the ship with the ki drainer and Dabra steps in Gohan's way to protect his master. Babidi gives Buu the ki that Pui Pui had collected, but he's more interested in Gohan's power. He tells Dabra to gather energy from the blond warrior since nothing else on the destroyed rock seems to have much promise.

Gohan, with that Earthican charm for ki control, manages to actually surprise Dabra with his amount of power, but the Demon King still toys with him; slowly injuring him to make sure the energy is sent to Buu. Eventually, Gohan's rage boils over and he gets a rage boost, that while not as grand as when he was a kid or strong enough to actually harm Dabra, startles him after the previous ki control demonstration. In the heat of the moment, Dabra accidentally turns him to stone. Babidi is furious. Knowing Kaioshin will be after him soon, Babidi takes a gamble. He hopes that Dabra's strength will be enough to awaken Buu in an emergency, and so he siphons the Demon King's strength to the Buu ball. He NEEDS the Majin to have enough energy to survive any potential assault; the minions are replaceable, but his father's perfect creation is his world and the key to his revenge on the Kaioshin.

Kibito and Kaioshin have been on Earth. They notice the planet in shambles, but without being properly trained in their mystic arts and since the Jinzoningen don't have ki for them to sense, they have no idea the planet is in constant danger. Having sensed the brief battle between Gohan and Babidi's warriors though, Kaioshin zeroed in on the location of the ship. He and Kibito take this opportunity that has been handed to them so perfectly and seize the moment to attack Babidi. Kaioshin manages to defeat his goons with little trouble, leaving only Dabra and Babidi. The little runt panics and decides to release Majin Buu. Dabra tries to stall for time but is quickly defeated (not killed). Buu's ball begins to release its steam and breaks in half, with only the smoke rising and a slight ki signature emanating from it. With too much time having passed and not enough energy having been gathered, the smoke doesn't form anything. Buu doesn't have enough power to manifest himself, and both the smoke and ki within it fade away to nothing. Buu's revival is prevented. Kaioshin promptly moves to kill Babidi while he stands there in a stupor so that this kind of danger never comes into existence again, but Dabra attempts to save his master by intercepting the blast...though he only manages to get the both of them killed in his weakened state. Before leaving, the gods blow up the ship and make sure that Gohan is alright in return for allowing them to find the ship, but don't stick around to meddle in mortal affairs.

Later, Gohan wakes up with a foggy mind and is unsure what actually happened. He never tells Trunks about the event because there really isn't anything concrete to tell...

[RandomGuy96]

So Kaioshin would do everything while Gohan lies there comatose and useless?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

So Kaioshin would do everything while Gohan lies there comatose and useless?

Yep. Just because the story is set in Trunks' timeline doesn't mean Gohan or Trunks need to be the central star. The special is meant to explain what happens with Buu, the Saiyan hybrids don't even need to be involved at all. If the special had to be created though, specifically in this AGE and including Gohan, something along those lines is the only logical way to fit a story like this into the already known narrative without manifesting plotholes or various other problems IMO.

[RandomGuy96]

Yep

Marvelous.

But I don't think that you'd need to contrive a way for Dabura to lose. Kaioshin apparently doesn't know how strong he really is; he can simply use that paralyze move on Dabura and eye beam him to death.

[Kamiccolo9]

So Kaioshin would do everything while Gohan lies there comatose and useless?

Yep. Just because the story is set in Trunks' timeline doesn't mean Gohan or Trunks need to be the central star. The special is meant to explain what happens with Buu, the Saiyan hybrids don't even need to be involved at all. If the special had to be created though, specifically in this AGE and including Gohan, something along those lines is the only logical way to fit a story like this into the already known narrative without manifesting plotholes or various other problems IMO.

I, for one, would be interested in seeing a well written Kaioshin story.

[rereboy]

I'm in the process of writing one about Future Buu with Kaioshin in it. If it is well written or not, that will be up to whoever cares enough to read it.

There's only one more page in this special. Afterwards its the main story (and it seems pretty well drawn).