What if.... No More Yamcha

[GS7X7]

A while ago I did a topic about "what if Goku died in episode 1" and how it'd impact the world.

Generally, not in a very positive way. Usually things ended in complete disaster.

But, what if Yamcha died? What if, in his first appearance, he got struck by lightning and was vaporized, never to be revived or heard from again.

For the sake of argument, Puar can still befriend the others despite this....

But in any case- what would happen without anymore Yamcha?

Is Yamcha really just a worthless "dim sum" who never mattered much in the long-run? Or were his actions able to help out Goku and their friends enough to save them? (and thus the future as well)

[Kamiccolo9]

Goku would be a carrot.

[dbzfan7]

Nothing as he is useless.


But seriously I think they would have problems with the Rabbit gang, or Goku would kill the others in an Oozaru rage.

[RandomGuy96]

If you take out one main character, you start a domino effect that ends in Freeza (or Cooler if you count him) or Babidi or Cell takes over the universe. Except a few worthless guys like Chiaotzu and Ox-King.

For example, if you take Krillin out, Vegeta kills everyone. Even if they survive Vegeta somehow, when Namek comes Gohan still dies to Dodoria and Vegeta still dies to Recoome.

As said, Goku would be a carrot and or Ozaru Goku would kill everyone and then would be easily killed by a later villain.

Now I'm trying to think of how many characters you could remove without resulting in the villains winning... I'm pretty sure you could remove Tien, and Chiaotzu.

[Makaioshin]

Without Yamucha's fear of women holding him back, Pu'er easily robs the trio and they die in the desert.

[dbzfan7]

Without Yamucha's fear of women holding him back, Pu'er easily robs the trio and they die in the desert.

Puar's a dude.

Checking D7 confirms this. Then why does he sound so much like a girl in every voice I have heard.

[Makaioshin]

Puar's a dude.
Checking D7 confirms this. Then why does he sound so much like a girl in every voice I have heard.

I think it is common for little pet sidekicks to have higher pitched voices like he has.

[DarkPrince_92]

If Yamcha died... he'd be like Choazu after the Freeza arc.... wgaf.

[Kid Buu]

R.I.P Bulma. Either from Boss Rabbit or Oozaru Goku.

[dbzfan7]

Puar's a dude.
Checking D7 confirms this. Then why does he sound so much like a girl in every voice I have heard.

I think it is common for little pet sidekicks to have higher pitched voices like he has.

Even so you can have a high pitched sounding boy.

[GS7X7]

Without Yamucha's fear of women holding him back, Pu'er easily robs the trio and they die in the desert.

Puar's a dude.

Checking D7 confirms this. Then why does he sound so much like a girl in every voice I have heard.

Luffy, Goku, Yoh Asakura, Kurama.... it's an anime. It's common for girls to voice guys.


In any case, it's starting to sound like we owe the salvation of the universe almost entirely to Yamcha! Without him, Goku never could have survived. Take THAT, Yamcha haters!

[dbzfan7]

Without Yamucha's fear of women holding him back, Pu'er easily robs the trio and they die in the desert.

Puar's a dude.

Checking D7 confirms this. Then why does he sound so much like a girl in every voice I have heard.

Luffy, Goku, Yoh Asakura, Kurama.... it's an anime. It's common for girls to voice guys.


In any case, it's starting to sound like we owe the salvation of the universe almost entirely to Yamcha! Without him, Goku never could have survived. Take THAT, Yamcha haters!

Except Goku and Luffy don't sound like Girls to me. Their Japanese actors do a good job. Puar sounds like a girl in any language I have heard.

[Attitudefan]

I'm pretty sure you could remove Goten, kid Trunks, Tenshinhan, and Chiaotzu.

Without Ten, Goku would win the tournament and cease trying to get stronger. His manipulation of Ki would stagnate and none of the characters would learn how to fly.

[RandomGuy96]

Wouldn't Tambourine still kill Krillin though, putting into motion the series of events that lead to King Piccolo's defeat?

[Kamiccolo9]

Now I'm trying to think of how many characters you could remove without resulting in the villains winning... I'm pretty sure you could remove Goten, kid Trunks, Tenshinhan, and Chiaotzu.

I never thought about it like that. Without Goten and Trunks, Goku would have no reason to not annihilate Fat Buu. Sure, it sucks for his "passing the torch to the next generation" plan, but he wouldn't really have any choice. Tien never really does anything essential either, and without Tien, Chiaotzu loses his whole meaning for existing. I wonder who else we can take out like this?

[GS7X7]

Tenshinhan, Yamcha (uh, kind of.... sigh, okay, not really, but at least his death unlocked knowledge of one of the Saibamen moves) and Chaozu are, at least, able to delay Nappa long enough to ensure that Gohan, Kurillin and Yajirobe are still left alive. If one of those last 3 died, the Goku vs. Saiyans fight could have ended in disaster.

[Kamiccolo9]

Tenshinhan, Yamcha (uh, kind of.... sigh, okay, not really, but at least his death unlocked knowledge of one of the Saibamen moves) and Chaozu are, at least, able to delay Nappa long enough to ensure that Gohan, Kurillin and Yajirobe are still left alive. If one of those last 3 died, the Goku vs. Saiyans fight could have ended in disaster.

Kinda, I guess. Although, if Krillin didn't take out 4 of them at once, then they would have managed to make up the time. Also, I don't think Tien, Yamcha, and Krillin got the memo about the whole "fight the Saibamen to buy time" thing. Instead of drawing the fights out, they just went all out and ended them as fast as they could.

[Marco Polo]

Now I'm trying to think of how many characters you could remove without resulting in the villains winning... I'm pretty sure you could remove Goten, kid Trunks, Tenshinhan, and Chiaotzu.

You sorta can't remove Kid Trunks without removing Future Trunks, and Future Trunks is essential.

[GS7X7]

As much as I hate to diminish Yamcha, it's been years since I saw the first 13 eps but, is there any possibility Goku's posse could have run back to Roshi for help during the crisis with Boss Rabbit or Goku going Ape?

Yamcha's assistance in those 2 situations is cited as critical and although he has a number of decent fights throughout the first series, those 2 moments seem to be when he was at his most important.

[Kamiccolo9]

As much as I hate to diminish Yamcha, it's been years since I saw the first 13 eps but, is there any possibility Goku's posse could have run back to Roshi for help during the crisis with Boss Rabbit or Goku going Ape?

Yamcha's assistance in those 2 situations is cited as critical and although he has a number of decent fights throughout the first series, those 2 moments seem to be when he was at his most important.

Well, Bulma was a carrot at the time, and I don't see Goku leaving her. Roshi hadn't shown he was anything special yet either; just an old guy who lived on an island with his turtle.
When Goku went Oozaru, they were trapped in Pilaf's castle. So, no running for help then.