The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:41 pm

i don't think that Turles is much higher than 30,000. 33,000 at most. Therefore Vegeta kicks the crap out of him with dirty tricks and fighting prowess (see his fights with Zarbon and Recoome), and Turles is unable to really get him to stay down.

Saiyan Saga Vegeta is just ridiculous with the plot armor. I really don't know what PIccolo can do to put him down. He survived a kaio-ken x4 Kamehameha for god's sake. Then he shrugged off a Spirit Bomb meant to kill Ozaru Vegeta.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by Draken » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:55 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:i don't think that Tullece is much higher than 30,000. 33,000 at most. Therefore Vegeta kicks the crap out of him with dirty tricks and fighting prowess (see his fights with Zarbon and Recoome), and Tullece is unable to really get him to stay down.

Saiyan Saga Vegeta is just ridiculous with the plot armor. I really don't know what PIccolo can do to put him down. He survived a kaio-ken x4 Kamehameha for god's sake. Then he shrugged off a Spirit Bomb meant to kill Ozaru Vegeta.
Well most of the Spirit Bomb was lost when Goku got hit by Vegeta's mouth blast...
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:14 pm

So, for my 1,500th post, I have this fight.
End of Buu Arc Goku (can go SSJ and SSJ2) vs End of Buu Arc Vegeta (can go SSJ and SSJ2)
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:16 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:So, for my 1,500th post, I have this fight.
End of Buu Arc Goku (can go SSJ and SSJ2) vs End of Buu Arc Vegeta (can go SSJ and SSJ2)
Tie in terms of power. Tie in terms of skills. Goku has the advantage in techniques. Vegeta has the advantage in intelligence. It's hard to say but since it's so close I'm gonna go with my preferred character, Vegeta.
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Post by Draken » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:18 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:So, for my 1,500th post, I have this fight.
End of Buu Arc Goku (can go SSJ and SSJ2) vs End of Buu Arc Vegeta (can go SSJ and SSJ2)
Tie in terms of power. Tie in terms of skills. Goku has the advantage in techniques. Vegeta has the advantage in intelligence. It's hard to say but since it's so close I'm gonna go with my preferred character, Vegeta.
Iunno man, if he pulls another move like in their first fight (That power ball doe), I can see him getting pummeled.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:26 pm

Vegeta gets Instant Kienzai'd.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:28 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Vegeta gets Instant Kienzai'd.
You implying Vegeta doesn't know the Kienzan? Cuz he does.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:30 pm

He doesn't know Instant Transmission. Goku teleports behind him and throws it. Done.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:33 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:He doesn't know Instant Transmission. Goku teleports behind him and throws it. Done.
You implying Vegeta can't get out of the way? Cuz he can. Goku can't use a technique mid Shunkan Idou, he has to charge in after he reappears.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:35 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:He doesn't know Instant Transmission. Goku teleports behind him and throws it. Done.
You implying Vegeta can't get out of the way? Cuz he can. Goku can't use a technique mid Shunkan Idou, he has to charge in after he reappears.
He did against Cell.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:37 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
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RandomGuy96 wrote:He doesn't know Instant Transmission. Goku teleports behind him and throws it. Done.
You implying Vegeta can't get out of the way? Cuz he can. Goku can't use a technique mid Shunkan Idou, he has to charge in after he reappears.
He did against Cell.
He was charging it before using the Shunkan Idou. While he can't be faster than Shunkan Idou, he still has time to dodge after he reappears. Vegeta can also deflect the Kienzaon with a ki blast.
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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:38 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:So, for my 1,500th post, I have this fight.
End of Buu Arc Goku (can go SSJ and SSJ2) vs End of Buu Arc Vegeta (can go SSJ and SSJ2)
I think it would play out like SSJ2 Majin Vegeta vs SSJ2 Goku, though in the manga that fight was pathetically short (most of the fight was off-panel though). :P I can't really answer, Goku has better techniques, but Vegeta can be super intelligent when his pride doesn't take over. Vegeta is quite durable though, and he's willing to fight dirty if the opportunity arises.... I just don't know. But this does all depend on whether the Majin power up was permanent. :)
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Post by Mjb1985 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:58 pm

I don't see Vegeta surviving the Kamehameha any more crazy than Gohan surviving Buu's Kamehameha.
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Post by Draken » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:18 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:I don't see Vegeta surviving the Kamehameha any more crazy than Gohan surviving Buu's Kamehameha.
Vegeta survived it bloodlusted and still able to fight. Gohan "survived" it, for sure. If by survive you meant knocked unconscious, low on ki, might've died of injuries if left to self.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:46 pm

Goku will win. He usually finds a way to.
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Post by Kid Buu » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:03 pm

GT Pan vs GT Majuub
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Kid Buu wrote:GT Pan vs GT Majuub
GT's power hierarchy is all kinds of mad wack, but I'm PREEEETTY sure Pan ranks much lower than Oob does, merged-with-Boo or not.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:23 am

Kid Buu wrote:GT Pan vs GT Majuub
Super Uub kills pan just by looking at her. Pan barely breaks 1,000,000,000 if she's lucky. Super Uub surpasses Super Baby whom had already surpassed Buuhan. Yeah, Pan is screwed.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:30 am

Kid Buu wrote:GT Pan vs GT Majuub
I know that a lot of people don't like Pan, but what has she done to make you think she deserves this? :P
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Post by Kid Buu » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:19 am

I'm not a GT expert so I didn't know it was that different, I just put them together as they were the two new protagonists.

Would Pan vs pre-Buu fusion Uub work?
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