Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ: "Rock the Dragon" Set

[Sin]

I'm calling a spade a spade. It's not a step back. I can't fathom why anyone would consider a one-off a step back. They aren't going in any direction, they are just catering to a niche market. You are blowing this way out of proportion. Not sure what you mean by "no matter what". I know what's in it.

I agree, I just think it shows how much attention Funimation is paying to the series and it's fans.

[penguintruth]

I find interesting that the prevailing opinion is that Pauline Newstone was the worst dub Freeza, which I find odd. I don't love the voice, but I don't hate it either. I think the voice was based mainly on Freeza's appearance rather than his personality but I enjoyed it. The big problem I had was the writing.

I don't see how Newstone's Freeza is any worse than Linda Young's. They're both equally horrible.

It's not like Funimation's in-house cast was some kind of huge improvement on the Ocean cast until Kai. It was largely just one bunch of losers replacing another.

[ABED]

I find interesting that the prevailing opinion is that Pauline Newstone was the worst dub Freeza, which I find odd. I don't love the voice, but I don't hate it either. I think the voice was based mainly on Freeza's appearance rather than his personality but I enjoyed it. The big problem I had was the writing.

I don't see how Newstone's Freeza is any worse than Linda Young's. They're both equally horrible.

It's not like Funimation's in-house cast was some kind of huge improvement on the Ocean cast until Kai. It was largely just one bunch of losers replacing another.

They weren't equally bad. And "losers"? That goes beyond disliking a voice to being outright disrespectful of the people.

[penguintruth]

I disrespect people who are terrible at what they do. People who suck don't deserve respect. They deserve admonishment.

[ABED]

I disrespect people who are terrible.

Then grow up because that's such an immature attitude. I don't care if you don't care for their talents, or lack thereof, but it's awful to disrespect people for doing what you think is a crappy voice over job. Disrespect people who are terrible human beings.

[penguintruth]

I disrespect people who are terrible.

Then grow up.

What's that have to do with anything? Respect has to be earned, not assumed. You seem to be the one who needs to grow up. Somebody doesn't deserve respect for simply existing.

[ABED]

I disrespect people who are terrible.

Then grow up.

What's that have to do with anything? Respect has to be earned, not assumed. You seem to be the one who needs to grow up. Somebody doesn't deserve respect for simply existing.

This isn't about respecting their talent, it's about disrespecting people. So what if they are terrible? Does that mean you treat them like garbage for being untalented? How does their lack of voice over ability give you the right to call them juvenile names? To my knowledge, many of them are good people, so your insults just seem like juvenile remarks that are coming from someone from the safety of a keyboard. I would hope you wouldn't say they are "losers" to their face. Hence why I said you need to grow up because namecalling like that is what kids do, but at least they have the excuse of being kids.

Alright, I've said my piece on this issue, and don't wish to get in a flame war, but this had to be said.

[penguintruth]

I have no interest in whether they are "good people" or not. I'm not watching the show hoping a "good person" voices a character, I want the person who voices a character to be talented. What they do in their personal lives is irrelevant. They're either good at what they do and thus have value to me or they aren't and so they don't. This isn't a charity, their job is to entertain.

My entire point was that the move from the Ocean cast to the Funimation cast wasn't some kind of improvement. It was sure hyped as such, though.

[Ryuji-Otogi]

I have no interest in whether they are "good people" or not. I'm not watching the show hoping a "good person" voices a character, I want the person who voices a character to be talented. What they do in their personal lives is irrelevant. They're either good at what they do and thus have value to me or they aren't and so they don't. This isn't a charity, their job is to entertain.

My entire point was that the move from the Ocean cast to the Funimation cast wasn't some kind of improvement.

In the long run it was.

[penguintruth]

Well, when the long run is more than ten years later when they finally got good, is it worth it?

[Ryuji-Otogi]

I'm not a big dub fan by any stretch of the imagination, but Boo Saga FUNi dub and Saiyan/Namek Saga redub is noticeably better than anything Ocean put out. It took forever for us to see a faithful script or Kikuchi's music, but the acting itself and the voice work in general improved plenty before Kai.

[ABED]

Mileage varries, but some of us think they improved long ago. Plus, I am not a fan of Kelamis, and found even a green Schemmel an improvement over him.

[penguintruth]

Mileage varries, but some of us think they improved long ago. Plus, I am not a fan of Kelamis, and found even a green Schemmel an improvement over him.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the character of Son Goku, then.

[ABED]

Mileage varries, but some of us think they improved long ago. Plus, I am not a fan of Kelamis, and found even a green Schemmel an improvement over him.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the character of Son Goku, then.

No, I just think Kelamis sounded really awful and the cadence of his delivery was unnatural.

Schemmel's problem was that he was green, and yet I think he sounded a bit better than Kelamis. The dialog and the directorial choice to make him more superhero and less naive hick isn't on him.

[penguintruth]

No, I just think Kelamis sounded really awful and the cadence of his delivery was unnatural.

Way more natural than overly grainy, uncomfortable-sounding Sean Schemmel. And with more playful zest than his sad, pumped-up Ian Corlett impression. He sounded like a guy forcing his voice into this really fake, heavy grit to sound tough.

[ABED]

No, I just think Kelamis sounded really awful and the cadence of his delivery was unnatural.

Way more natural than overly grainy, uncomfortable-sounding Sean Schemmel. And with more playful zest than his sad, empty Ian Corlett impression.

He wasn't natural in the slightest. It's like we're saw two completely different shows. Just chalk it up to a difference of opinion.

[KingofWisdom]

I didn't really like Kelamis much when I heard him in isolated clips. But I came to really appreciate his performance after buying the uncut films and looking at the bigger picture. Not to say that anyone is wrong. Just my two cents. I guess there's no point in arguing preference.

[mikezilla2]

anyone got a link to the trailer that isnt geo blocked ?

[Craddle]

anyone got a link to the trailer that isnt geo blocked ?

Mine is not blocked. Located in my signature.

[Mewzard]

Well, when the long run is more than ten years later when they finally got good, is it worth it?

Because it created an entire large cast of voice actors with some fairly good talent and added to the diversity of dub cast options? You bet your ass it was! It was a slow process yeah, but sometimes it takes practice to really cultivate an actor's ability (unless they were just highly gifted and got things easily).

Now, if we ever do get to see an Ocean Kai, we can see what they did with their time. I'd enjoy two good dubs out of the series (as long as I can keep my Funi cast).