Do you think Funimation is over-selling DBZ?

[dbboxkaifan]

I think they are, however, there's different releases for different folks:

.The Dragon Boxes are for the causal English fan who likes the dub and doesn't mind the Japanese score and the "hardcore" Japanese version fans.

.The Dragon Ball Z Blu-rays are there to please fans of the Toonami with the background score, causal Japanese version fans and the causal English dub who doesn't care about background music.

. Dragon Ball Z Kai is great for those who want a shorten version of Z with an mostly accurate dub or subs.

.The Ocean boxset is great for those who like the Ocean dub.


People who say the Toonami fans have their own proper DVD release of that said dub via the season sets, I find that's not true. The Toonami fans deserve better than the crappy picture quality they have, the Blu-rays are the closest thing to an "ultimate" edition for almost all fans. For for the Spanish ( Latino) dub, while Spanish is the second most spoken language in the states, there's not that folks who are vocal enough to have the dub on the sets; most causal U.S. fans only want English.

The casual fans of Dragon Ball Z normally go for the Season Sets because it includes the music that they grew up with than the Dragon Boxes Z or the Ocean Dub, and it's the cheapest available. Most of them are already very happy with the purchase and don't mind that the AR is 16x9 which cuts off part of the picture, because they watch it in an HDTV and they've gotten used to it.

Dragon Box Z were specifically intended for the hardcore fans who prefer it in Japanese, and the casual fans wouldn't really give two shits about having 7 partially big boxes if they could have the same for less. This really isn't for casual fans at all.

I for one haven't bought the DBZ Level 1.1 & 1.2 Blu-rays because it doesn't have the Japanese credits or NEPs, which are featured in the Dragon Box Z edition.

[Hellspawn28]

The single DVD sets are pretty cheap used on Amazon. I think fans who grew up with DBZ on Toonami can buy those sets if they are upset that the orange bricks don't have the same music.

[AgitoZ]

The casual fans of Dragon Ball Z normally go for the Season Sets because it includes the music that they grew up with than the Dragon Boxes Z or the Ocean Dub, and it's the cheapest available. Most of them are already very happy with the purchase and don't mind that the AR is 16x9 which cuts off part of the picture, because they watch it in an HDTV and they've gotten used to it.

Casual fans go for the orange bricks because they are cheap, easy to find (like someone has already mentioned), and they're oblivious to details. Joe Schmo just sees DBZ for about 20 bucks at a Wal-Mart and finds it be a fine deal.

[Pretorious]

The single DVD sets are pretty cheap used on Amazon. I think fans who grew up with DBZ on Toonami can buy those sets if they are upset that the orange bricks don't have the same music.

Maybe they don't want it used? Maybe they want everything in one big set that has the entire original Ocean dub? Plus, they get a nice collector's edition book and packaging. If they got the old Pioneer DVDs unopened, they'd be paying a lot lot more.

[penguintruth]

My general opinion on this is that as long as DBZ is still funding other projects/licenses, I don't care how many times they re-release it. That ninth re-release of DBZ is paying for Black Lagoon: Roberta's Blood Trail and other such releases of better anime.

As a DBZ fan, I'm of two minds, though. One is, hey, there's a release for pretty much everyone, even if there isn't any uniform release that reaches across all needs. The fans of the Japanese version have the Dragon Box specifically aimed at them. The fans of the in-house Funimation dub have the Season Sets, the Level sets (well, the first two... let's hope they get back to those). The Ocean dub fans now have the Rock the Dragon sets. And for the newer fans or fans who want to cut through a lot of the bullcrap, Dragon Ball Z Kai is available, and has both a great Japanese and English track to experience.

The other thing is, though, my concern of the confusion that all these releases causes. People not knowing which release has what version of the show, who's voicing who, what episodes, what story arcs, what kind of video and/or audio quality, etc, which muddies the waters. You want FMA? You go and buy the FMA DVD sets. FMA: B? FMA: B has its sets. There aren't twenty different versions of Fullmetal Alchemist on DVD, even with the two different shows. You want to watch Eden of the East? Then go get that. There's a DVD release and Blu-Ray release, and they're both the same material. DBZ has a unique and complicated history and thus the different versions.

[Kerunou]

I don't really think they are, for more than one reason too. One, it's pretty hard to over-sell something as amazing as Dragonball Z. Fanboy-ness aside, are they milking it? Yes, but there's a lot of value in DBZ and I just really think they're going for broke here you know. Sure, they own all this other stuff but DBZ is like legendary it seems to them and I don't blame them either. Business-wise? It makes sense to capitalize off of the residual buzz with Battle Of Gods in recent times too. Pretty soon they'll be pushing their luck, I'm sure to some of you they already are, but like others have said, these different collections/releases/boxsets can appeal to the varying kind of fan, ranging from the casual fan to the hardcore collector and everywhere in between. When it comes down to money, Funimation knows where to make money for certain. That's how I see it at least.

[thedarkuniter]

I think they are, however, there's different releases for different folks:

People who say the Toonami fans have their own proper DVD release of that said dub via the season sets, I find that's not true. The Toonami fans deserve better than the crappy picture quality they have, the Blu-rays are the closest thing to an "ultimate" edition for almost all fans. For for the Spanish ( Latino) dub, while Spanish is the second most spoken language in the states, there's not that folks who are vocal enough to have the dub on the sets; most causal U.S. fans only want English.

I think with the Toonami fans, maybe they could've gotten the earlier releases unless they were kids back then. Speaking of guys who want the Spanish dub, I wonder do they watch the Spanish tracks on other animation or live-action dvds?

I'm sure some watch the Spanish options, in the states, almost all our DVD's have Spanish subtitles/ dubs, at least from companies like Warner Bros., Universal Pictures and so on. Also, there's 2 Spanish dubs for Z. One is dubbed in Mexico, which most call the Latino/Mexican dub and is the most accurate of the dubs, and there's the one in Spain dubbed in Castellano which is like English from the U.K., but only the Spanish equivalent, but has different voices and is not accurate at all. Most folks prefer the Latino dub.

[dbret12]

I don't think they are over-selling Dragon Ball Z at all. This new release is there to please the Ocean fans, but it might be better and more complete than the Pioneer DVD Singles. But it would be nice if they had Dragon Box releases for Dragon Ball, the movies for Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z (and the two TV Specials) and Dragon Ball GT. Would be nice if they continued the Blu-ray remastered Level Sets too. Even though it's the same dub as the season sets.

[Insertclevername]

Yes. I'm the kind of guy who feels that there should only be two versions of Z. A main steam release for those who like the in house FUNi dub; and the Dragon Boxes for the niche hardcore fans. The others are unnecessary. Too bad FUNi only keeps the main stream release in print.

[Kendamu]

With the crap they've been passing off as Season Sets for the past several years, I think they're currently underselling DBZ! Take that new digital master for the Level Sets, dirt and all, and just throw it onto 9 new DVD boxes in 4:3 for about $20 a set. You'll be getting a lot of money from me really quickly, FUNimation.

[penguintruth]

I think the only thing that would get me to buy DBZ again would be a complete re-dub, and even that would be mostly a curiosity. Now that I have the Dragon Boxes, I have no further need to buy DBZ. I already have every episode of Z at my disposal in good quality, so there's no reason to continue buying it. I might buy more Kai so I can short-track my way through some of the more padded areas of the show, though.

[Ringworm128]

They should probably stop before they flood the market even more. If they focussed on advertising their other big shows like Fairy Tail and One Piece they could possibly turn those into the cash cows they need to get other shows.

[dbboxkaifan]

They should probably stop before they flood the market even more. If they focussed on advertising their other big shows like Fairy Tail and One Piece they could possibly turn those into the cash cows they need to get other shows.

There's really only version of DBZ left in production in the market which is the Season Set edition.

Dragon Ball: Season Sets (01-05)
Dragon Ball Z: Season Sets (01-09)
Dragon Ball GT: Season Sets (01-02)

Dragon Ball: Movie Pack 4
Dragon Ball Z: Movie Pack Collection (01-03)

The other collections are within limited time edition (Dragon Box Z & Ocean Dub), or cancelled (Level Sets). This really isn't flooding the market, at all.

[Attitudefan]

No. It's a chance for fans to own their version! I think it is wonderful we DB fans get this treatment where many series fall into obscurity and forgotten; or, they get one release but there might be multiple version of said release, but fans only get the one version and the rest stay unreleased. We are very lucky!

You never know how much you have until you don't have it any more. Be blessed DB fans, be blessed!

[Ryuji-Otogi]

My general opinion on this is that as long as DBZ is still funding other projects/licenses, I don't care how many times they re-release it. That ninth re-release of DBZ is paying for Black Lagoon: Roberta's Blood Trail and other such releases of better anime.

I can totally agree with that. Maybe some of those other dubbing companies could have stayed afloat if they had a leviathan like DBZ to fall back on. It doesn't mean anything to me if FUNi sells too many Dragon Ball DVDs; it doesn't mean I have to buy them all.

[TheGmGoken]

They should probably stop before they flood the market even more. If they focussed on advertising their other big shows like Fairy Tail and One Piece they could possibly turn those into the cash cows they need to get other shows.

There's really only version of DBZ left in production in the market which is the Season Set edition.

Dragon Ball: Season Sets (01-05)
Dragon Ball Z: Season Sets (01-09)
Dragon Ball GT: Season Sets (01-02)

Dragon Ball: Movie Pack 4
Dragon Ball Z: Movie Pack Collection (01-03)

The other collections are within limited time edition (Dragon Box Z & Ocean Dub), or cancelled (Level Sets). This really isn't flooding the market, at all.

You forgot single sets which are in fact still in stores.

[Super Sonic]

They should probably stop before they flood the market even more. If they focussed on advertising their other big shows like Fairy Tail and One Piece they could possibly turn those into the cash cows they need to get other shows.

I'd say they do tend to focus on shows guys who watched DBZ as kids might watch now as adults, if you know what I mean. Heh heh heh.

But also they do have shows like this one I like with actresses I like who were too young to be on DBZ when it was on.

[hulkty]

no

[Kakarot88]

If you like Faulconer's beats, which I do, then the problem with the Dragon box sets is that they lack those and the orange bricks cut out 20% of the viewing. The single disc issues lack a marathon feature and tend to have other problems like skipping and not looking as aesthetically cool on a shelf. It depends on your music preference whether you want orange bricks or the dragon boxes. I like the Faulconer's music with the American dub and the Japanese music with the Japanese voices (duh) so the dragon box sets did not suit my needs although it does suck it being in widescreen having my preferred music when I want to watch it in English sucks less. That's how I perceive the situation.

[Gaffer Tape]

Well, skipping is only a problem if your discs are damaged. Just get better-quality used discs.

And while I don't dig Faulconer's fat beats, I can certainly see how, to someone who does, it would be a deal-breaker.

But Marathon Mode? Not to sound flippant, but you have a remote control. It has skip chapter buttons. There's your marathon mode. To sound less flippant, even though I don't care for a Marathon Mode feature because I prefer to watch an episode as a complete episode, I still can't see how that would possibly be a big deal. It's a convenient feature, sure, but, again, it's not something you can't accomplish on your own with the tiniest amount of effort. It's like nice, deluxe packaging: it's fun to have, but it's hardly necessary.

All that said, the first two single discs ever released are an enforced Marathon Mode, so there you go. They completely lack recaps, previews, openings and ending for all but the beginning and end of the disc, and even eyecatches. Other early discs present the recaps as an option you can turn on and off, so, again, pretty close to that.