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Post by Gonstead » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:39 pm

Maybe he didn't damage any vital organs and simply pierced through.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Ringworm128 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:14 am

Well if Freeza can survive being blasted when he only had a tiny fraction of ki left and then having a planet explode around him or Piccolo surviving being thrown into the ocean after having a whole blown through his chest then anything is possible.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Draken » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:44 am

ringworm128 wrote:Well if Freeza can survive being blasted when he only had a tiny fraction of ki left and then having a planet explode around him or Piccolo surviving being thrown into the ocean after having a whole blown through his chest then anything is possible.
Both of those guys have explanations for such feats. Yamcha, on the other hand, is a full-blooded, normal (albeit very powerful), human.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:11 pm

Dragon Ball humans are not real world humans. Yamucha can fly, lift buses, and fire magic rockets out of his hands. Don't see how he's (or Kuririn, Tenshinhan, etc) lacking any of the "explanations" any of those other characters have...

Admittedly, I can see chalking up the Freeza getting cut in half thing to bizarre alien biology, but, then again,there's also the almost identically humanoid Vegeta getting a similar hole through his chest in the previous arc.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Draken » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:48 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Dragon Ball humans are not real world humans. Yamucha can fly, lift buses, and fire magic rockets out of his hands. Don't see how he's (or Kuririn, Tenshinhan, etc) lacking any of the "explanations" any of those other characters have...

Admittedly, I can see chalking up the Freeza getting cut in half thing to bizarre alien biology, but, then again,there's also the almost identically humanoid Vegeta getting a similar hole through his chest in the previous arc.
Vegeta died the second time, and the first time he was seconds away from dying.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:09 pm

Draken wrote:Vegeta died the second time, and the first time he was seconds away from dying.
Yeah. Just like Yamucha. Kinda my point... The only thing that kept them from death was a magic healing thingy, but they both managed to survive long enough to be given it and didn't just die instantly. Hell, give mad props to Vegeta for being able to stumble around while he had a giant hole in his spinal column...
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Draken » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:43 pm

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Draken wrote:Vegeta died the second time, and the first time he was seconds away from dying.
Yeah. Just like Yamucha. Kinda my point... The only thing that kept them from death was a magic healing thingy, but they both managed to survive long enough to be given it and didn't just die instantly. Hell, give mad props to Vegeta for being able to stumble around while he had a giant hole in his spinal column...
Right. While Vegeta looks human, he's not. He's a Saiyan, with obviously superior physiology and a very, very stubborn will to live. Yamcha, on the other hand, is a normal human, and I don't know any normal humans who could survive more than a few seconds with a huge ass hole pierced right through the center of their chest.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:53 pm

But, again, like I said, he's NOT a normal human, either by real life standards (and I really don't know why anyone would be applying real life standards to most ANYTHING in Dragon Ball) or even by Dragon Ball standards, so, yeah, he obviously was able to survive that long enough to get help.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Draken » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:55 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:But, again, like I said, he's NOT a normal human, either by real life standards (and I really don't know why anyone would be applying real life standards to most ANYTHING in Dragon Ball) or even by Dragon Ball standards, so, yeah, he obviously was able to survive that long enough to get help.
He's a normal human by the definition, and by his physiology.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:18 pm

I'm sorry, but this is getting silly. What is your point? Obviously he survived. Obviously by doing so he proved he was capable of not dying instantly. Dragon Ball characters simply cannot be expected to conform to the abilities and limitations of human beings in real life, and shouldn't be since they're regularly shown to be existing outside of those limitations. It was even stated in dialogue that this character had surpassed the normal limitations of his kind. You're so insistent that this person be constrained to "realism" while you're literally watching him fly around you and shoot beams from his hands. Also worth noting that, in Dragon Ball, the Saiyans are often referred to as "humans" as well.

But enough about that. That was a very funny episode, yah?
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Post by Draken » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:49 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:I'm sorry, but this is getting silly. What is your point? Obviously he survived. Obviously by doing so he proved he was capable of not dying instantly. Dragon Ball characters simply cannot be expected to conform to the abilities and limitations of human beings in real life, and shouldn't be since they're regularly shown to be existing outside of those limitations. It was even stated in dialogue that this character had surpassed the normal limitations of his kind. You're so insistent that this person be constrained to "realism" while you're literally watching him fly around you and shoot beams from his hands. Also worth noting that, in Dragon Ball, the Saiyans are often referred to as "humans" as well.

But enough about that. That was a very funny episode, yah?
You seem to think I'm saying it's impossible in DBZ. I'm not. I'm following up the post that Freeza and Piccolo survived similar injuries due to their alien physiology while Yamcha just DBZ hacked to survive. "Because plot", what you're saying, is not an answer I accept personally.

Not really the last was better. But you can't expect too much out of a transitional episode really. Still good.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:54 pm

Draken wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:I'm sorry, but this is getting silly. What is your point? Obviously he survived. Obviously by doing so he proved he was capable of not dying instantly. Dragon Ball characters simply cannot be expected to conform to the abilities and limitations of human beings in real life, and shouldn't be since they're regularly shown to be existing outside of those limitations. It was even stated in dialogue that this character had surpassed the normal limitations of his kind. You're so insistent that this person be constrained to "realism" while you're literally watching him fly around you and shoot beams from his hands. Also worth noting that, in Dragon Ball, the Saiyans are often referred to as "humans" as well.

But enough about that. That was a very funny episode, yah?
You seem to think I'm saying it's impossible in DBZ. I'm not. I'm following up the post that Freeza and Piccolo survived similar injuries due to their alien physiology while Yamcha just DBZ hacked to survive. "Because plot", what you're saying, is not an answer I accept personally.

Not really the last was better. But you can't expect too much out of a transitional episode really. Still good.
Well, to be fair, Krillin survived a hole in his chest for an unknown amount of time. We don't know how long it took Dende to dig him out of the ocean and heal him.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Draken » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:38 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
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Gaffer Tape wrote:I'm sorry, but this is getting silly. What is your point? Obviously he survived. Obviously by doing so he proved he was capable of not dying instantly. Dragon Ball characters simply cannot be expected to conform to the abilities and limitations of human beings in real life, and shouldn't be since they're regularly shown to be existing outside of those limitations. It was even stated in dialogue that this character had surpassed the normal limitations of his kind. You're so insistent that this person be constrained to "realism" while you're literally watching him fly around you and shoot beams from his hands. Also worth noting that, in Dragon Ball, the Saiyans are often referred to as "humans" as well.

But enough about that. That was a very funny episode, yah?
You seem to think I'm saying it's impossible in DBZ. I'm not. I'm following up the post that Freeza and Piccolo survived similar injuries due to their alien physiology while Yamcha just DBZ hacked to survive. "Because plot", what you're saying, is not an answer I accept personally.

Not really the last was better. But you can't expect too much out of a transitional episode really. Still good.
Well, to be fair, Krillin survived a hole in his chest for an unknown amount of time. We don't know how long it took Dende to dig him out of the ocean and heal him.
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Post by allfornot2 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:24 pm


Exactly. DBZ hax.
Considering two humans with similar power levels survived wounds that were very similar, it would seem more likely that humans who have reached such a level are just capable of surviving such grievous wounds.

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Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:28 pm

No. I'm sorry, but if Goku getting pierced through the chest with a Makankosappotamus kills him but Yamucha getting a hand shoved through his chest, leaving a hole at least as big as that doesn't kill him, that's just nonsense, even by DB standards.
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Post by Kaboom » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:42 pm

It did take Goku a couple of minutes to actually die from his Makankosappo wound. Same situation here, except Yamcha was taken to ye holder o' magic beans in time to be saved.
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Post by Sun-Wukong » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:41 am

penguintruth wrote:No. I'm sorry, but if Goku getting pierced through the chest with a Makankosappotamus kills him but Yamucha getting a hand shoved through his chest, leaving a hole at least as big as that doesn't kill him, that's just nonsense, even by DB standards.
By this point in the series, Yamcha is much stronger than Goku was when Raditz arrived. I mean, just a single year after that, he was able to defeat a saibaiman that was explicitly stated to be as powerful as Raditz ever was, relatively easily, only to be taken out by a cheap shot. And after being wished back, he spent three years training to fight the androids, so I see no reason to believe that he couldn't survive such a grievous wound, considering he ate a magical healing bean almost immediately.
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