Will You Be Buying The "Rock The Dragon" DVD Box Set?

[dbboxkaifan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFbBVPOmYto
Yeah, Chris blows Drummond out of the water.

That clip only showcases their screaming/yelling and I really don't think Sabat is that great of a screamer. It's especially evident in Z with the amount of effects used on his voice not to mention the loud music. In Kai it's better but when you compare Drummond's early Z work where he wasn't holding back his power ups are far better than anything Sabat did.

FUNi Z - Sounds like he's taking a dump.
FUNi Kai - Is he yawning?

Drummond against Sabat's both performances did a better job imo, his scream was actually convincing.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Drummond isn't really good for anything as far as I'm concerned. He doesn't capture Vegeta's character in the slightest, his voice is high pitched, and he just sounds plain silly. Honestly it's kinda sad that I can take Goku's high pitched little kids voice on his adult body more seriously than I take Drummond's Vegeta =/.

Drummond against Sabat's both performances did a better job imo, his scream was actually convincing.

How? Drummond is a bland Saturday morning cartoon villain. How does he sound convincing in the slightest? Drummond just sucks as far as I'm concerned. Sorry if that bothers you but I cannot stand the guy .

[Cursed Lemon]

I don't find Drummond that good either. Btw I'm more use to ocean then I am Funi. To me it just doesn't fit Vegeta appearance.

Diminutive Saiyan-arc-Vegeta, or super jacked Cell-games-Vegeta?

I don't get why people like Drummond's scream. I don't find them good at all. He sounds like he belongs in a mental asylum

Yeah, but...early on in the series, whenever Vegeta was screaming, he probably WAS close to belonging in a mental asylum.

[NitroEX]

I don't get why people like Drummond's scream. I don't find them good at all. He sounds like he belongs in a mental asylum

I'de like to think a transformation that staining would make a saiyan warrior sound uninhibited not calm and composed. Also last time I checked wasn't rage needed for the transformation? I think Drummond checks all those boxes which is more than i can say for Sabat's aggressive moaning in Z which sounds like something else altogether.

[TheMightyOzaru]

You're releasing energy. How calm and composed can you really be? Sabat in Kai is at least trying to mimic the Japanese which is something I can't say for Drummond.

[ABED]

Writing informs the character and Vegeta wasn't written as the arrogant Saiyan prince back then. If he had been, Drummond would've done justice to the character. As is, Drummond's great in the role at that point in the series.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Writing informs the character and Vegeta wasn't written as the arrogant Saiyan prince back then. If he had been, Drummond would've done justice to the character. As is, Drummond's great in the role at that point in the series.

When Ocean gets a Kai dub I feel there would be a fair comparison, until then he has nothing on Chris. However his voice is still silly to me so I don't think Kai would make a good case for him anyway.

[ABED]

Bland means "tasteless", so I fail to see how his voice or his acting don't stand out. You may not like the sound of it, but it's unique.

[andrewtuell1991]

No. I already own all 20 single Pioneer DVDs via the dollar bin and have no intention of double dipping just to get some booklet whose information I can probably look up online and a butchered of version of one of the more boring Z movies with Kikuchi's fantastic score replaced by Levy's usual boring, droning music and an inferior English Goku.

Nostalgia is obviously the selling factor and have absolutely none towards this dub. Scott McNeil's Piccolo is the only voice I'd consider above average. Everyone else ranges from "Decent but nothing extraordinary" (Bulma, Dende, Kid Gohan) to Down-right Terri-bad (Freeza, the Ginyu Force, Tenshinhan).

To the above argument, I have to agree TheMightyOzaru. Be it the Funi/Saban dub or the Westwood dub I've never liked that chain-smoker, biker-gang, evil imp, over-the-top Saturday morning cartoon villain voice Drummond's been pulling since '96. Vegeta is supposed to sound regal, smug, smooth, and above all else arrogant. Drummond's Vegeta sounds like he belongs in a straight-jacket. Since he's apparently reprising Vegeta for Ocean Kai, I hope he uses something closer to his Zechs voice from Gundam Wing or Renkotsu from Inuyasha. If it's the same voice, I'll be fast-forwarding through his parts.

[MDSTSSJ]

I know this is not the correct thread but, what is the best DVD Box Set for Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT, Movies, TV Specials, Ova?? I mean, uncut version, original background japanese music and japanese language with accurate english subs. You guys are lucky to get different types of Box Sets and I´m a bit confused.

Help would be really appreciated!!

[TheMightyOzaru]

Bland means "tasteless", so I fail to see how his voice or his acting don't stand out. You may not like the sound of it, but it's unique.

Linda Young made for a unique Freeza as well, was her performance good? No... In fact it was quite atrocious. Actually bland is also synonymous with boring or common. Drummond is definitely your typical Saturday morning cartoon villain.

[ABED]

Bland means "tasteless", so I fail to see how his voice or his acting don't stand out. You may not like the sound of it, but it's unique.

Linda Young made for a unique Freeza as well, was her performance good? No... In fact it was quite atrocious. Actually bland is also synonymous with boring or common. Drummond is definitely your typical Saturday morning cartoon villain.

Drummond's voice isn't common. You can pick it out of a crowd, and while his voice does scream evil (apropo of someone who's evil), it's still different than Saturday morning cartoon villains. Plus, what's wrong with saturday morning cartoons? Young was unique (although that's arguable), but not good, two different things. They aren't mutually exclusive. "Common" is hardly a word I would use to describe Drummond's Vegeta.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Dragon Ball Z isn't your typical Saturday morning cartoon, that's what's wrong with Drummond's Vegeta voice.

[ABED]

Dragon Ball Z isn't your typical Saturday morning cartoon, that's what's wrong with Drummond's Vegeta voice.

I fail to see what's wrong about it. God forbid evil sounds evil. If Buu can sound goofy, Vegeta can sound like an evil prick because that's what Vegeta is. Yeah he's also arrogant, but that's not absent from his performance.

[TheMightyOzaru]

He doesn't even sound evil, he sounds psychotic. It's just a goofy voice. Buu is supposed to be goofy.... that's not a case in favor of Drummond.

[penguintruth]

Goku is definitely heroic. Sure he loves to fight but he's a hero. Anyways, I disagree that he's bland. While the script could've left in Goku's true personality, Corlette is such a good actor that he made the material he was given work.

Just because Goku is heroic, doesn't mean he should have some generic "heroic" tone. Corlett doesn't bring out any of Goku's spirit, his free-wheeling quirkiness. He's just sort of reading the lines. He doesn't bring the character to life. Kelamis brought out personality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFbBVPOmYto

Drummond's Vegeta sounds amazing in that video. But I'd probably give Sabat the edge in that particular scene. Only in Kai.

Drummond's Vegeta had a great sense of smug confidence to it, almost a regality. You could tell he thought he was amazing. Very similar to what Horikawa brings to the role.

[ABED]

Kelamis didn't bring out any personality because he wasn't good in the role. He might be good in other parts but Goku wasn't one of them. So many of his line readings were unnatural. He was better during the movies because the writing was better.

Drummond doesn't sound psychotic all the time. Penguin, I was referring to Drummond during the Saiyan and Freeza arcs.

Yes, Buu is supposed to sound goofy, and Vegeta should sound like an evil prick. I don't think it was even established that he was royalty until the next arc, but Drummond still sounds arrogant.

[penguintruth]

Kelamis didn't bring out any personality because he wasn't good in the role. He might be good in other parts but Goku wasn't one of them. So many of his line readings were unnatural.

Incorrect. Kelamis brought out a lot of Goku's free spirit and quirkiness. Corlett could send somebody into a coma with his lackluster sound and delivery.

[ABED]

Kelamis didn't bring out any personality because he wasn't good in the role. He might be good in other parts but Goku wasn't one of them. So many of his line readings were unnatural.

Incorrect. Kelamis brought out a lot of Goku's free spirit and quirkiness. Corlett could send somebody into a coma with his lackluster sound and delivery.

It might be bland, but at least he doesn't sound unnatural. It's not the best, but I enjoy it for what it is. The cadence of Kelamis's delivery is contrived.

[SSJJezter]

Kelamis didn't bring out any personality because he wasn't good in the role. He might be good in other parts but Goku wasn't one of them. So many of his line readings were unnatural.

Incorrect.

Why do you have to say that as if it is a fact because you said so? It's in his opinion that Kelamis was bad. It's your opinion he was good. It's not a stonewall fact because you think have that opinion.