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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by El Diabeetus » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:52 pm

Zephyr wrote:
Attitudefan wrote:Nope. I saw an edited version of it with both dubs. I'll tell you, it was the best thing I had ever seen since sliced bread.
That sounds amazing. Is it on Youtube?
I did that video an account or two ago and it was on a different computer, so odds are it's lost. Unless someone managed to save it.

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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:16 pm

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ringworm128 wrote:We all already know which dub he means.
I know...Funi :( . Just wish people would use other dubs as wells instead of another Funimation compared to original audio :cry:
Ocean, actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz9vVgkmi04

Funi had some syncing issues during the show. It got a lot better in the games, and hopefully Kai (and was still technically an improvement on JP), but still.
Yeah the syncing funimation first had was terrible. But in the games his voice is much better synced and so much better overall. I don't really like Vegetto's ocean voice. But his power up scream to SSJ was awesome.
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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by MDSTSSJ » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:13 pm

How about this Vegetto voice?? Dual voice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BLdNpGHBYo

Original music is always awesome!

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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:41 pm

MDSTSSJ wrote:How about this Vegetto voice?? Dual voice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BLdNpGHBYo

Original music is always awesome!
For some reason I can't stand the Latino voices. I'll give credit that it's one of the most accurate dubs but...the voices to me are bad IMO

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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by Attitudefan » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:12 pm

Zephyr wrote:
Attitudefan wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Don't you mean Sabat not Drummond lol
Nope. I saw an edited version of it with both dubs. I'll tell you, it was the best thing I had ever seen since sliced bread.
That sounds amazing. Is it on Youtube?
Was. It got taken down by Funimation a few years ago. I tried searching for it but no luck. Heh, maybe I'll remake it and put it up for all to see.
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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by Ringworm128 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:37 am

I actually prefer how Funimation made Vegeta to be slightly less evil after the Saiyan arc since it makes his eventual turn to the good side seem a bit less random instead of going straight from "I heart killing" to "now I will blow myself up to save the world".

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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by hulkty » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:01 am

TheGmGoken wrote:I said Funimation in my post. I'm just saying it's not Falcunor dub. Please say Funimation as it's more specific.
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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by Zephyr » Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:03 pm

SSJ4 Furanki wrote:I did that video an account or two ago and it was on a different computer, so odds are it's lost.
Attitudefan wrote:Was. It got taken down by Funimation a few years ago. I tried searching for it but no luck.
Damn, that sucks.
Attitudefan wrote:Heh, maybe I'll remake it and put it up for all to see.
I'd kill to see that. :thumbup:

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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by penguintruth » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:03 pm

ringworm128 wrote:I actually prefer how Funimation made Vegeta to be slightly less evil after the Saiyan arc since it makes his eventual turn to the good side seem a bit less random instead of going straight from "I heart killing" to "now I will blow myself up to save the world".
I think they made him less evil far too soon, especially since he goes right back to being an asshole almost immediately after his big death speech in the dub about how he doesn't want anyone else to turn out like him.

"Don't let him do it... to anyone else!"

And then a few episodes later he's back and laughing his ass off that Namek exploded with Goku on it.

"AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, YOUR FATHER'S DEAD! NOW I'M THE BEST! AND I KILLED THAT ENTIRE VILLAGE SO THEY AREN'T COMING BACK! AHAHAHAHAHA!"

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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by Looneygamemaster » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:54 pm

I thought of another Funimation dub improvement--Murasaki. Just the whole character. Duncan Branan's hilariously terrible Japanese accent is a perfect fit, which makes his whole fight with Goku even funnier.

Plus, Funimation re-writes a dialogue exchange that makes it more true to Dragon Ball's style of humor. When Murasaki jumps across a lake, his exchange with Goku is pretty dull in the Japanese version (it's just Goku not knowing what piranhas are). Funimation throws in a dumb pun ("Full of pajamas?" :lol: ) and also has Goku unable to hear him from the other side, which makes it hilarious.

Speaking of Branan, his Babidi is also leagues better then Joji Yanami's. Not even a contest. I applaud the latter for at least trying to do a different voice, and I like that feel his voice has sometimes--like he's a schoolteacher, and everyone else is a dumb kid--but his acting is just the same dull monotone I hear in every role he does.

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Post by TheWhiz » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:00 pm

penguintruth wrote:Never.

Oh wait, once Gohan fired a Masenko and in the Japanese version he cried "Kamehameha", but the English dub got it right.

There. Once.
Ocean copied the same mistake in the Japanese version.

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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by Thanos » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:46 pm

ringworm128 wrote:I prefer the metal bands for movies like the Coola one or the Broli one since those movies are pretty much just dumb fighting for the whole movie. My only complainant is that the lyrics don't really fit making me wish they had used instrumental versions of the songs. Here's my favorite example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCZu_4ISA7o The tone of the song in terms of instrumentals and melody is actually placed rather well, but the lyrics? "I took you home"? :eh: Oh wait, I get it now. The lyrics say "I watched you change" because he changed into a Super Super Saiyan!!!!! :lolno: :lolno: :lolno:
Oh god, kill it with fire. One good example of FUNimation stepping out of bounds in their dubbing.
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Post by ABED » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:51 pm

but his acting is just the same dull monotone I hear in every role he does.
Yanami doesn't have a monotone delivery.
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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by Looneygamemaster » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:01 pm

Yanami doesn't have a monotone delivery.
Oh I think he does. Of course, I don't pretend to be an expert on Japanese voice acting, but to my ears, no matter what role he has, he always sounds like he's doing inflected reading.

He's a VA with a voice that's very nice to listen to, but can't really seem to voice act. Now that works fine with old mentor figures whose main purpose is to exposit (like Totosai from Inuyasha or Gennai from Digimon). It also makes him the perfect choice for the narrator, as he really does sound like a grandfather reading a story. But any time he's called on to emote, I find that he simply can't deliever.

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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by penguintruth » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:04 pm

He emotes rather well as Kaio. Certainly better than gurgling Schemmel Kaio.
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Post by ABED » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:36 pm

but can't really seem to voice act.
I couldn't disagree more. He can sound happy, sad, goofy, malicious...
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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by DBZ Mick » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:42 pm

Yeah, his Kaio goes through all kinds of emotions and such very well. Especially in parts of the Saiyan, Namek and Freeza arcs.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Post by theoriginalbilis » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:20 am

Looneygamemaster wrote:Speaking of Branan, his Babidi is also leagues better then Joji Yanami's. Not even a contest. I applaud the latter for at least trying to do a different voice, and I like that feel his voice has sometimes--like he's a schoolteacher, and everyone else is a dumb kid--but his acting is just the same dull monotone I hear in every role he does.
You haven't watched enough of the Japanese version then, simple as that. Kaio goes through highs and lows throughout the series... elation, goofiness, anger, despair, wisdom, snarkiness... and Yanami pulls it off flawslessly. It's understandable you'd hear that, after hearing the English dub and it's tendency for the voice talent to overact.

You're probably caught up on the sound of his voice, but not the inflections of his voice during a scene. Yanami's performance is a lot more subtle than the English version, but there's no monotony going on.
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Post by OmegaRockman » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:51 am

Movie 6. Funimation dub. Goku and Vegeta just barely manage to destroy Metal Cooler. Army of Metal Coolers arrive to face them.

"Well, Vegeta, it's been nice knowing you."
"Oh, shut up."

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Re: Moments when you think a dub did better then the origina

Post by Looneygamemaster » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:16 am

You haven't watched enough of the Japanese version then, simple as that.
Oh I have. I've watched all of DBZ in Japanese. In addition, I've watched many other Japanese dubs quite a few of which had much better voice-acting then DBZ, and others that had worse. As I said, I don't consider myself an expert, but I think I can discern a good performance from a bad one. Yanami does inflect, but as I said, that's all he does--I always get the feeling that he's reading a script instead of truly voice-acting.

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