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Re: Are English Speakers the Only Ones that Have a Problem..

Post by penguintruth » Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:59 pm

JEFFMAN90 wrote:
penguintruth wrote:The Japanese had the luxury of watching Dragon Ball first, and Nozawa's Goku voice evolves, albeit in a subtle fashion, as he grows up.
It doesn't matter gokus Japanese voice still sounds bad. The voices that I like from the Japanese version is Freeza's, Vagetas, and Piccolos
Well, bully for you, but Goku's Japanese voice is excellent and the intended one.
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Re: Are English Speakers the Only Ones that Have a Problem..

Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:20 pm

Just because it's the intended voice doesn't mean he has to like it. It reminds me of when I got flamed on another forum because I didn't like the way a game characters name was romanized, and I pretty much just got "that's what the creator wanted you can't argue with it".

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Re: Are English Speakers the Only Ones that Have a Problem..

Post by Ajay » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:48 pm

ringworm128 wrote:Just because it's the intended voice doesn't mean he has to like it. It reminds me of when I got flamed on another forum because I didn't like the way a game characters name was romanized, and I pretty much just got "that's what the creator wanted you can't argue with it".
I don't think anyone has a problem with his opinion, it's just the way he approached giving it. He just totally dismissed what penguintruth said which is unnecessary along with not even beginning to back up what it is he doesn't like about it.
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Re: Are English Speakers the Only Ones that Have a Problem..

Post by Dalesy » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:12 pm

ringworm128 wrote:Just because it's the intended voice doesn't mean he has to like it. It reminds me of when I got flamed on another forum because I didn't like the way a game characters name was romanized, and I pretty much just got "that's what the creator wanted you can't argue with it".
Well, of course he doesn't have to like the voice. But if he's going to state that it is outright bad, then he should probably back up that statement.
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Re: Are English Speakers the Only Ones that Have a Problem..

Post by KiddoCabbusses » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:24 pm

OutlawTorn wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:I don't think it can even be narrowed down to Goku being voiced by a woman as you can check out other English dubs to find male characters voiced by women, from Ash in Pokemon to Naruto. Even Bart Simpson is voiced by a woman.
One thing you have to remember about all three of these characters that they've all yet to be portrayed as a muscular, strong man in his mid-20's/30's/40's who's known to punch people's faces in. Ash is gonna stay 10 forever.

I think it's also pretty interesting to note that there very rarely does a Nozawa-style Goku-style voice (A woman voicing a strong/powerful/muscular man) actually appear in anything outside Shonen adapations (Where the main character usually stays a teenager until the end, rather than aging as Goku did), and more or less started with Goku to begin with.

Note that I'm not entirely sure I have much further a point than "Nozawa's Goku is very much a unique case regardless of how many women have voiced men, because of who Goku's character is.", so don't take it as leaning towards either side of this.

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Re: Are English Speakers the Only Ones that Have a Problem..

Post by Mewzard » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:46 pm

KiddoCabbusses wrote:One thing you have to remember about all three of these characters that they've all yet to be portrayed as a muscular, strong man in his mid-20's/30's/40's who's known to punch people's faces in. Ash is gonna stay 10 forever.

I think it's also pretty interesting to note that there very rarely does a Nozawa-style Goku-style voice (A woman voicing a strong/powerful/muscular man) actually appear in anything outside Shonen adapations (Where the main character usually stays a teenager until the end, rather than aging as Goku did), and more or less started with Goku to begin with.

Note that I'm not entirely sure I have much further a point than "Nozawa's Goku is very much a unique case regardless of how many women have voiced men, because of who Goku's character is.", so don't take it as leaning towards either side of this.
Going even further, many characters can be a kid/teen and still be voiced by men. Tohru Furuya voiced Seiya (13) and Amuro Ray (15) respectively. Look at Jonathan Joestar and Dio in the recent Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. They were both twelve during the first episode or so, and sounded like full grown men, lol (pretty much looked like teens).

I've heard more instances of men voicing male kids/teens than women voicing adult males.
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