Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Draken » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:48 pm

Rocketman wrote:Except that's believable because ~*~*~*GOKU*~*~*~.
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Change the name to Piccolo.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:52 pm

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Don't get the impression that you were right in what you were saying, dude. You weren't. You clearly do not understand what privileges one gets when coming up with an idea about something unexplained. Because the thing is unexplained, one can come up with their own explanation for it.
Did you know that Goku also has Super Kami Guru's special ability? Due to his Other Worldy training, time spent on Namek, and being Goku, he learned through several years of intense training the power to bring someone to their full potential. It takes several long hours to replicate a similar end product to the one Super Kami Guru can do in seconds, but yet for some reason he can. Unfortunately, it was never explained how, exactly when, why, or where Goku actually learned this specific powerup, and he was never shown to use it, but I say he can.
No, it's not. This is really getting ridiculous.

This is my idea: U7 Gohan should have competed instead of U3 Bardock. U7 Gohan would be similar to U12 Gohan in personality and looks but similar to U16/U18 Gohan in strength. How would he be so strong? Gast Carcohl decided to train him and/or his potential was unlocked by someone. Would training be enough to make Gohan so powerful? Not all training regimens are the same, so there could be one that succeeded in making Gohan so strong. Who was it that unlocked Gohan's potential? It could have been Gast, who had gained that ability through merging with several of his Namekians or learned it on his own. Would merging with several Namekians give him that ability? Since we don't know what happens when one merges with several Namekians, I could come up with that one gets that ability when merging with several Namekians. How would he learn it? I haven't thought of how, but there wouldn't necessarily be inconsistencies by having him learn it. Or it could have been Old Kai, who Gohan ended up meeting. How would Gohan meet Old Kai? I haven't thought of how, but there wouldn't necessarily be inconsistencies by having them meet. How is this so hard to understand?

Gast Carcohl would also know how to see into the future. How would he be able to? I haven't thought of how, but there wouldn't necessarily be any inconsistencies by making him be able to.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Draken » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:55 pm

Gast Carcohl would also know how to see into the future. How would he be able to? I haven't thought of how, but there wouldn't necessarily be any inconsistencies by making him be able to.
Did you know that Piccolo can also see into the future? Due to his Other Worldy training, time spent on Namek, and being Piccolo, he learned through several years of intense training the power to bring someone to their full potential. Unfortunately, it was never explained how, exactly when, why, or where Piccolo actually learned this specific powerup, and he was never shown to use it, but I say he can.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:57 pm

Did you know that Piccolo can also see into the future? Due to his Other Worldy training, time spent on Namek, and being Piccolo, he learned through several years of intense training the power to bring someone to their full potential. Unfortunately, it was never explained how, exactly when, why, or where Piccolo actually learned this specific powerup, and he was never shown to use it, but I say he can.
This makes sense how? This has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Draken » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:58 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:
Did you know that Piccolo can also see into the future? Due to his Other Worldy training, time spent on Namek, and being Piccolo, he learned through several years of intense training the power to bring someone to their full potential. Unfortunately, it was never explained how, exactly when, why, or where Piccolo actually learned this specific powerup, and he was never shown to use it, but I say he can.
This makes sense how? This has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
You're giving characters arbitrary powerups and abilities they're never shown to have or use, but saying because it's not contradicted and it's your own opinion you can.

So I'm doing the same thing.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:01 pm

Draken wrote:[You're giving characters arbitrary powerups and abilities they're never shown to have or use, but saying because it's not contradicted and it's your own opinion you can.

So I'm doing the same thing.
It doesn't matter if they've never been shown to have or use those before. I can say that they can do it. What you're doing doesn't make any sense at all.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Draken » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:02 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:
Draken wrote:[You're giving characters arbitrary powerups and abilities they're never shown to have or use, but saying because it's not contradicted and it's your own opinion you can.

So I'm doing the same thing.
It doesn't matter if they've never been shown to have or use those before. I can say that they can do it. What you're doing doesn't make any sense at all.
What do you mean? It doesn't matter if they've never been shown to have or use those before, I can say that they do it. Why doesn't it make sense?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:06 pm

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Dr. Machismo wrote:
Draken wrote:[You're giving characters arbitrary powerups and abilities they're never shown to have or use, but saying because it's not contradicted and it's your own opinion you can.

So I'm doing the same thing.
It doesn't matter if they've never been shown to have or use those before. I can say that they can do it. What you're doing doesn't make any sense at all.
What do you mean? It doesn't matter if they've never been shown to have or use those before, I can say that they do it. Why doesn't it make sense?
Copying what I'm saying doesn't make you look clever or help your argument.

If I were to come up with a story idea for Dragonball, I wouldn't have to rely on information that's already been established. I could use my OWN information. What I should worry would be if the idea makes sense and doesn't have inconsistencies within itself or with what's been established in Dragonball . My idea makes sense and doesn't have inconsistencies within itself or with what's already been established.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Draken » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:09 pm

Neither does Piccolo being able to see the future or Goku having the ability to bring someone out to their full potential. Uub comes to mind 8)

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:11 pm

Draken wrote:Neither does Piccolo being able to see the future or Goku having the ability to bring someone out to their full potential. Uub comes to mind 8)

You haven't explained how they would have those abilities.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Draken » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:11 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:
Draken wrote:Neither does Piccolo being able to see the future or Goku having the ability to bring someone out to their full potential. Uub comes to mind 8)

You haven't explained how they would have those abilities.
Neither have you.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:12 pm

Draken wrote:
Dr. Machismo wrote:
Draken wrote:Neither does Piccolo being able to see the future or Goku having the ability to bring someone out to their full potential. Uub comes to mind 8)

You haven't explained how they would have those abilities.
Neither have you.
I have explained most of how my idea would work:
This is my idea: U7 Gohan should have competed instead of U3 Bardock. U7 Gohan would be similar to U12 Gohan in personality and looks but similar to U16/U18 Gohan in strength. How would he be so strong? Gast Carcohl decided to train him and/or his potential was unlocked by someone. Would training be enough to make Gohan so powerful? Not all training regimens are the same, so there could be one that succeeded in making Gohan so strong. Who was it that unlocked Gohan's potential? It could have been Gast, who had gained that ability through merging with several of his Namekians or learned it on his own. Would merging with several Namekians give him that ability? Since we don't know what happens when one merges with several Namekians, I could come up with that one gets that ability when merging with several Namekians. How would he learn it? I haven't thought of how, but there wouldn't necessarily be inconsistencies by having him learn it. Or it could have been Old Kai, who Gohan ended up meeting. How would Gohan meet Old Kai? I haven't thought of how, but there wouldn't necessarily be inconsistencies by having them meet. How is this so hard to understand?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Draken » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:13 pm

You're saying somehow someway through a method never shown to do that.

I also explained my idea. Through years of Other World training, Namekian ability, blah blah blah.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:20 pm

Draken wrote:You're saying somehow someway through a method never shown to do that.
What is wrong with that? And I still don't understand your idea. Care to elaborate on it (assuming that it even made sense in the first place)

This is what you people are basically doing.
Some Guy: OK, I have an idea. Goku should teach Uub the Kaioken after he leaves to train with him.
You People: How would that work?
Some Guy: Goku decides to teach him it when training him.
You People: We don't know how Goku would train Uub.
Some Guy: OK, I'm saying that he would train Uub in a way that he would learn the Kaioken.
You People: But there's no evidence supporting that.
Some Guy:No **** we don't have evidence supporting that he did! My idea is that he SHOULD train him in a way that he learns it. I'm not saying that he did train him in a way that he learned it. But I'm saying that he SHOULD have trained him in a way that he learns it.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Draken » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:25 pm

Well I already told you what you're doing, you're obviously to stubborn to see any one else's point of view.
You: I think Gast can see into the Future
Us: How?
You: Iunno, because he can and it doesn't create an inconsistencies so why not?
Us: How?
You: Iunno Namekian fusion
Us: How?
You: Iunno because I said so, even though I have no evidence whatsoever and this is just my personal opinion that I say is correct out of nothing.
And uh wow you're on a totally different page from me
But I'm saying that he SHOULD have trained him in a way that he learns it.
When was that stated?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:28 pm

Draken wrote:Well I already told you what you're doing, you're obviously to stubborn to see any one else's point of view.
You: I think Gast can see into the Future
Us: How?
You: Iunno, because he can and it doesn't create an inconsistencies so why not?
Us: How?
You: Iunno Namekian fusion
Us: How?
You: Iunno because I said so
Please reread my post. Think me as the "some guy":
Some Guy: OK, I have an idea. Goku should teach Uub the Kaioken after he leaves to train with him.
You People: How would that work?
Some Guy: Goku decides to teach him it when training him.
You People: We don't know how Goku would train Uub.
Some Guy: OK, I'm saying that he would train Uub in a way that he would learn the Kaioken.
You People: But there's no evidence supporting that.
Some Guy:No **** we don't have evidence supporting that he did! My idea is that he SHOULD train him in a way that he learns it. I'm not saying that he did train him in a way that he learned it. But I'm saying that he SHOULD have trained him in a way that he learns it.
Pay attention to the last two sentences.

I don't think you're putting any effort into your posts. Care to elaborate on your idea?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Draken » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:30 pm

You don't think I'm putting any effort into my posts?

K guys I found the truth, this guy is trolling. There and back again here we come!

You're saying shit comes out of nowhere with no evidence, so using your logic I say that Piccolo can see into the future and Goku can out the dormant power of other people. Then suddenly when you see that that would therefore make your idea sound as stupid as my idea you say my idea is completely different when it's the exact same thing.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:32 pm

Draken wrote:You don't think I'm putting any effort into my posts?

K guys I found the truth, this guy is trolling. There and back again here we come!

You're saying shit comes out of nowhere with no evidence, so using your logic I say that Piccolo can see into the future and Goku can out the dormant power of other people. Then suddenly when you see that that would therefore make your idea sound as stupid as my idea you say my idea is completely different when it's the exact same thing.
Accusing me of trolling, eh? I suggest you cool it before this gets out of hand.

Sir, all I have done is come up with an idea. You people are acting as if I'm saying my idea actually happened. I'm not. But I'm saying that it should happen. It's an idea. Did you even reread my post?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Draken » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:36 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:
Draken wrote:You don't think I'm putting any effort into my posts?

K guys I found the truth, this guy is trolling. There and back again here we come!

You're saying shit comes out of nowhere with no evidence, so using your logic I say that Piccolo can see into the future and Goku can out the dormant power of other people. Then suddenly when you see that that would therefore make your idea sound as stupid as my idea you say my idea is completely different when it's the exact same thing.
Accusing me of trolling? I suggest you cool it before this gets out of hand.

Sir, all I have done is come up with an idea. You people are acting as if I'm saying my idea actually happened. I'm not. But I'm saying that it should happen. It's an idea. Did you even reread my post?
You're accusing me of putting no effort into my posts when I've forced you to re-examine your logic and then you changed your idea. Where's the effort again?

Go ahead, you can say you wish it happened that way, but you can't say that's how it actually happened and Gast has the magical powers you say he has and Gohan has the magical powerup somehow.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:42 pm

You're accusing me of putting no effort into my posts when I've forced you to re-examine your logic and then you changed your idea. Where's the effort again?
I didn't accuse you. I said I think you aren't putting any effort into your posts.
Go ahead, you can say you wish it happened that way, but you can't say that's how it actually happened and Gast has the magical powers you say he has and Gohan has the magical powerup somehow.
What do you not understand about an idea? If I were to say "Goku should teach Uub the Kaioken", I wouldn't have any canonical evidence to back up my idea ... but uh, that doesn't matter. It's an IDEA. You don't need old evidence to back up an IDEA. Am I saying that Goku taught Uub the Kaioken? NO, but I'm saying that he SHOULD. Am I saying that Gast has magical powers or Gohan has the powerup? As I said before, NO. But I'm saying that he SHOULD.
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