Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Draken]

Gast Carcohl would also know how to see into the future. How would he be able to? I haven't thought of how, but there wouldn't necessarily be any inconsistencies by making him be able to.

When you were saying stuff like that, it sounded faaarrrrrrrrrr from "this is an idea and I have no proof but he should" and more like "I have no proof but he does" to me. But if you've re-evaluated your opinion and clarified it to say you have no backing and it's your personal fanon idea, then cool beans.

[Dr. Machismo]

Gast Carcohl would also know how to see into the future. How would he be able to? I haven't thought of how, but there wouldn't necessarily be any inconsistencies by making him be able to.

When you were saying stuff like that, it sounded faaarrrrrrrrrr from "this is an idea and I have no proof but he should" and more like "I have no proof but he does" to me. But if you've re-evaluated your opinion and clarified it to say you have no backing and it's your personal fanon idea, then cool beans.

Before I said that, I said "This is my idea". I never said "This is what happens in the actual story". But hey, give me some skin.

[rereboy]

Kaioken is a fighting technique, presumably capable of being learned and used by anyone who masters it. Goku would teach Uub Kaioken the same way Kaio teached him or in a similar fashion.

You really think that's on the same level as a fused Namekian suddenly acquiring an ability just like Bardock's ability from thin air (or with a cheap explanation)?

[Dr. Machismo]

You guys still wanna go at it? I thought my last comment brought the right closure, but OK.

Kaioken is a fighting technique, presumably capable of being learned and used by anyone who masters it. Goku would teach Uub Kaioken the same way Kaio teached him or in a similar fashion.

You really think that's on the same level as a fused Namekian suddenly acquiring an ability just like Bardock's ability from thin air (or with a cheap explanation)?

We don't know if Goku taught Uub the Kaioken, so you can't just say Goku would have taught him it. We don't know if a fused Namekian would get an ability like Bardock's either, so both ideas are similar in a sense.

Uub learning the Kaioken is more likely than a Namekian gaining an ability like seeing the future, though. What do you mean by "same level"?

[rereboy]

You guys still wanna go at it? I thought my last comment brought the right closure, but OK.

Kaioken is a fighting technique, presumably capable of being learned and used by anyone who masters it. Goku would teach Uub Kaioken the same way Kaio teached him or in a similar fashion.

You really think that's on the same level as a fused Namekian suddenly acquiring an ability just like Bardock's ability from thin air (or with a cheap explanation)?

We don't know if Goku taught Uub the Kaioken, so you can't just say Goku would have taught him it. We don't know if a fused Namekian would get an ability like Bardock's either, so both ideas are similar in a sense.

Uub learning the Kaioken is more likely than a Namekian gaining an ability like seeing the future, though. What do you mean by "same level"?

Same level of likelihood, logical progression, coherence with the original story, etc.

[dbzfan7]

If you go by DBM Oob learned Kaio-Ken. It is stated when Oob asks if he can beat Fat Boo and Goku's says with a well timed Kaio-Ken he can. Though Kaio-Ken could ridiculously over power Oob depending on how high of a multiplier he can use.

But hey Ideas can be wrong.

[RandomGuy96]

I believe the DBM novelization stated that Uub knew kaio-ken x5, and that his base power was about half of Super Saiyan Goku.

[dbzfan7]

I believe the DBM novelization stated that Uub knew kaio-ken x5, and that his base power was about half of Super Saiyan Goku.

Really? I don't remember that. Can I see a something that states this. Because Goku said with a well timed Kaio-Ken he could be at Majin Boo's level

[TheMightyOzaru]

Uub should be stronger than Pure Buu by this point .

[dbzfan7]

Uub should be stronger than Pure Buu by this point .

I would think so too. But hey that's Salagir writing for you.

[Draken]

Uub should be stronger than Pure Buu by this point .

I would think so too. But hey that's Salagir writing for you.

Same guy who actually made Broly infinite

[TheMightyOzaru]

Uub should be stronger than Pure Buu by this point .

I would think so too. But hey that's Salagir writing for you.

Same guy who actually made Broly infinite

I honestly don't mind his Broly change. It gives me an actual reason to like him. He speak in coherent sentences and is what the Legendary Super Saiyan should be. I don't think his Ki should grow as fast as it does but whatever.

[Draken]

I honestly don't mind his Broly change. It gives me an actual reason to like him. He speak in coherent sentences and is what the Legendary Super Saiyan should be. I don't think his Ki should grow as fast as it does but whatever.

Yea but... ugh. SSJ3 Vegetto nearly losing to Broly? *shudders* The fanboys be gasm-ing.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Yeah we could have done without that. I would have preferred to see SSJ3 Goku and Broly duking it out, after he adjusted to SSJ3 Goku after a bit, for a bit only to be knocked into the Sun by base Vegetto.

[Godo]

Kaioken is a fighting technique, presumably capable of being learned and used by anyone who masters it. Goku would teach Uub Kaioken the same way Kaio teached him or in a similar fashion.

You really think that's on the same level as a fused Namekian suddenly acquiring an ability just like Bardock's ability from thin air (or with a cheap explanation)?

Goku did learn how to read minds just by getting stronger. Although I don't have a stand in this discussion, even Toriyama pulled stuff almost as ridiculous out for his own convenience.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I honestly don't mind his Broly change. It gives me an actual reason to like him. He speak in coherent sentences and is what the Legendary Super Saiyan should be. I don't think his Ki should grow as fast as it does but whatever.

Yea but... ugh. SSJ3 Vegetto nearly losing to Broly? *shudders* The fanboys be gasm-ing.

You mean SS2. SS3 Vegetto was far stronger than Broli, and Broli didn't get enough time to surpass him.

[rereboy]

Kaioken is a fighting technique, presumably capable of being learned and used by anyone who masters it. Goku would teach Uub Kaioken the same way Kaio teached him or in a similar fashion.

You really think that's on the same level as a fused Namekian suddenly acquiring an ability just like Bardock's ability from thin air (or with a cheap explanation)?

Goku did learn how to read minds just by getting stronger. Although I don't have a stand in this discussion, even Toriyama pulled stuff almost as ridiculous out for his own convenience.

Mind reading was shown as a technique way back in the 21st tournament when Roshi read Nam's minds. Sure, it was convenient for Goku to suddenly be able to do it, but at least it had a precedent and it only enabled Goku to skip Krillin's explanation without changing anything else regarding the plot.

[Gohaz]

nevermind

[Draken]

I honestly don't mind his Broly change. It gives me an actual reason to like him. He speak in coherent sentences and is what the Legendary Super Saiyan should be. I don't think his Ki should grow as fast as it does but whatever.

Yea but... ugh. SSJ3 Vegetto nearly losing to Broly? *shudders* The fanboys be gasm-ing.

You mean SS2. SS3 Vegetto was far stronger than Broli, and Broli didn't get enough time to surpass him.

Still bullshit.

[dbzfan7]

Still bullshit.

But....But.......BROLY IS MAXIMUM OH MY GAWD.