The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:44 am

Before the fight starts, Boo says he'll make it quick, so I don't think he was deliberately dragging it out. He also tried to finish it at one point with his Galactica Donut + Kamehameha combo, so yeah, I think Boo can outlast him.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:44 pm

Vegeta's mustache vs Krillin's mustache.....BEGIN!
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:45 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Vegeta's mustache vs Krillin's mustache.....BEGIN!
Ffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:04 pm

Are we comparing size and sheen or are they rubbing 'staches.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:06 pm

Rocketman wrote:Are we comparing size and sheen or are they rubbing 'staches.
Anything goes.
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Post by Rocketman » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:37 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Are we comparing size and sheen or are they rubbing 'staches.
Anything goes.
Somebody call Scarz.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:54 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Buutenks vs Pure Buu (Gohan absorbed)
Buutenks.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:43 pm

Base Vegetto vs Bootenks/Boohan

Some people say he never needed SSJ and some say he needed SSJ to fight Boohan. We are not including the anime Vegetto in this.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:53 pm

No evidence at all either way. I'm just going to go with the vague implication that Buuhan > base Vegetto.
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Post by Mjb1985 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:55 pm

Could go either way. I don't see a problem with people using the filler here.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:00 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:Could go either way. I don't see a problem with people using the filler here.
Same. Vegetto was surprised at his own strength, leading me to believe he went SSJ just to be safe.
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Post by Rocketman » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:27 pm

Vegetto strongest there is.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:28 pm

Rocketman wrote:Vegetto strongest there is.
The Hulk takes offense to that :P
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:40 pm

Rou Kaioshin said that if Goku & Gohan were to merge with the Potara, they would be strong enough to defeat Gotenks Boo in base. Since base Vegeta is stronger than base Gohan, and since Goku & Vegeta match better in power than Goku & Gohan, I believe that base Vegetto is stronger than base "GokuXGohan". So, base Vegetto would beat Gotenks Boo. As for Gohan Boo, I think that Vegetto would put a good fight, but eventually, he would loose.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:00 pm

Base Vegeta is not stronger than Gohan. Gohan's Ultimate power is his Base form.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:05 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:Base Vegeta is not stronger than Gohan. Gohan's Ultimate power is his Base form.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:16 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:Base Vegeta is not stronger than Gohan. Gohan's Ultimate power is his Base form.
BoG & M13 show us that base & Ultimate as 2 different states, so I go by that. Not to mention that in the manga, Gohan's hairstyle is different when he isn't fighting.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Rocketman » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:22 pm

BoG and M13 both want to convince you that Goku is better than Gohan. They shouldn't be taken as reliable.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:23 pm

Rocketman wrote:BoG and M13 both want to convince you that Goku is better than Gohan. They shouldn't be taken as reliable.
M13 does but it's not implied that Goku is stronger than Gohan without SSJ God in BoG. In fact, the official website says Gohan is the strongest.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:30 pm

Rocketman wrote:BoG and M13 both want to convince you that Goku is better than Gohan. They shouldn't be taken as reliable.
Irrelevant.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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