I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for anime?

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:14 am

Yuugi-Ou! Duel Monsters proved that you could make card games interesting to view as television. A Dragon Ball series about kids playing a card-based virtual reality series could be entertaining, too.

Heck, Eyeshield 21 is one of my favorite comics. Why do I read it instead of going out and playing football? Take three guesses. Hint: your best answer is a single word that begins with the syllable 'ex' and ends with 'ecution'.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:18 am

JulieYBM wrote:Yuugi-Ou! Duel Monsters proved that you could make card games interesting to view as television. A Dragon Ball series about kids playing a card-based virtual reality series could be entertaining, too.

Heck, Eyeshield 21 is one of my favorite comics. Why do I read it instead of going out and playing football? Take three guesses. Hint: your best answer is a single word that begins with the syllable 'ex' and ends with 'ecution'.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Rocketman » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:25 am

penguintruth wrote:It's still kids playing a card game. That's like a show about putting together a jigsaw puzzle.
Which, oddly enough, is still Yugioh.

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by DBZ Mick » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:40 am

Dragonball Online's story could be a cool OVA series...
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:43 am

DBZ Mick wrote:Dragonball Online's story could be a cool OVA series...
I made a topic of that
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=23952

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by DBZ Mick » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:46 am

Yeah, saw it. :)
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

Superman in an orange Gi was the bastard son of FUNimation. Its not The real character, it is as false as Chatku.

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:27 am

penguintruth wrote:It's still kids playing a card game. That's like a show about putting together a jigsaw puzzle.
You could just as easily say "Dragonball is just fighting, why would I want to watch it if I could just turn on WWE?" Yu Gi Oh may be about card games but it still full of plot, heart and suspense. And a DBH anime could just as easily do that.

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by penguintruth » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:49 am

The characters in DBZ actually fight. They throw down, not throw down paper and summon Red Eyes Green Shenron, tapping mana to get him to breathe fire on Super Saiyan 12 Nappa.

Call me when Triple H throws... I don't know, Sargent Slaughter, into a mountain and Slaughter counters it with a giant energy beam that wipes out an entire ecosystem.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:54 am

So your reason for why Yu Gi Oh sucks is "I wanna see people punching each other card games are boring. I want hardcore! screw characters and story."? What's next, are you going to say "every action show needs electric guitars as the music, orchestras are boring!"? Yu Gi Oh has a different kind of action, it may be them playing cards but it's them figuring out strategies to win not just them slamming down random cards. It's like the chess game in Harry Potter, it might just be chess but there are stakes behind the match and they have to think of a strategy to win. How is that boring?

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Harlan Phoenix » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:06 am

penguintruth wrote:Any conflict that can be solved by simply swiping the other player's cards when they aren't looking isn't worth writing a TV show about.

Where are the stakes?
Complaining that a show about card battles has no stakes when the show you watch already has a get out of death free card that ensures no repercussions ever is probably the best possible way to apply for that PhD in intellectual dishonesty I hear is all the rage on the net.

You're also ignoring that people base their lives professionally around games. Professional poker is a thing, y'know. So is professional Magic: The Gathering, actually. I'd watch a show about professional Magic players just because that'd be interesting new territory for TV along with still being oddly relatable in the context of sports entertainment, if in a roundabout way.

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:09 am

Welcome to Kanzenshuu, wait you've been here longer then me? Er um, welcome to posting on Kanzenshuu!

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:22 am

ringworm128 wrote:Welcome to Kanzenshuu, wait you've been here longer then me? Er um, welcome to posting on Kanzenshuu!
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Why does someone have to wait for something...?
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

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VegettoEX wrote:
ringworm128 wrote:Welcome to Kanzenshuu, wait you've been here longer then me? Er um, welcome to posting on Kanzenshuu!
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Why does someone have to wait for something...?
He's confused at how the person above him has been here longer than him, yet has a grand total of one post.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:25 am

Oh. I see it now. Wow, that totally didn't come through the first time.

There are tons of people who registered years ago and haven't posted, but lurk and come back from time to time. I think I even banned someone once that only started posting five years after originally registering. It takes all kinds, huh?
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:28 pm

The join date doesn't always coincide with the amount of posts, yeah. Hell, if I'd been actively posting since I first joined, I'd probably be even more of a regular, but...well, things happen, things work out, yadda yadda yadda. :P

On the topic of a Dragon Ball Heroes anime...I'm conflicted. I don't harbor some deep-seated hatred for the idea of a card game based show like penguin seems to - I'm not a huge YGO! fan, but I enjoy the original series for what it is (though I find the earliest volumes of the manga where it wasn't just card games to be the best part anyway) - but I'm not sure how interested I'd be in actually watching Heroes as a show.

Then again, I said the same thing about Kai, and look where that got me. *has a shelf with most of it sitting there next to GT* And I suppose I would be interested in it more than, say, a Dragon Ball SD anime...
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Insertclevername » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:21 pm

I'm not a fan of the idea. It's not even in the same vein as Dragon Ball. The series would feel too different from the source material.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by penguintruth » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:19 pm

Harlan Phoenix wrote:Complaining that a show about card battles has no stakes when the show you watch already has a get out of death free card that ensures no repercussions ever is probably the best possible way to apply for that PhD in intellectual dishonesty I hear is all the rage on the net.
Irrelevant. Those people are still being hurt and killed by direct actions taken by themselves and others, not because some guy laid down a piece of paper. Not because some hologram of a thing on a card zapped their own hologram of a thing on a card.

When Goku is being punched, it's because Goku is actually being punched, not a Goku card being "punched" by a Vegeta card.

There's a disconnect with shows about card games. It's like watching two children play with their action figures instead of watching the characters the figures depict actually fighting.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:53 pm

Yugioh is far more entertaining that Dragon Ball Heroes. Until we hit 5Ds....
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Blade » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:59 pm

penguintruth wrote:
Harlan Phoenix wrote:Complaining that a show about card battles has no stakes when the show you watch already has a get out of death free card that ensures no repercussions ever is probably the best possible way to apply for that PhD in intellectual dishonesty I hear is all the rage on the net.
Irrelevant. Those people are still being hurt and killed by direct actions taken by themselves and others, not because some guy laid down a piece of paper. Not because some hologram of a thing on a card zapped their own hologram of a thing on a card.

When Goku is being punched, it's because Goku is actually being punched, not a Goku card being "punched" by a Vegeta card.

There's a disconnect with shows about card games. It's like watching two children play with their action figures instead of watching the characters the figures depict actually fighting.
You have to suspend your disbelief to watch either, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm certain that there are numerous life and death scenarios in the YuGiOh anime where the protagonists are mortally endangered. I mean, Dragonball isn't exactly a particularly good anime to relate notions of real-life mortality against, given that by the end of the story the concept of death is more-or-less meaningless given that there's an established after-life and multiple faculties by which people and planets can be revived.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Tzigi » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:09 pm

I like this idea - probably more with DBO but DBH would also be fun. Hellspawn28 has already named Digimon Tamers as a precedent - an anime in which a previous season of the same series is considered as fiction. But Tamers has another feature that would answer the problems raised - about people just standing there, just putting various cards on a table and not really fighting - in this series the cards have real impact on the Digimon. I hope that I can link to a small excerpt (if not than just search on youtube for "card slash" or "digi modify"): here. Take a look at how the card slash changes something (the speed of Renamon in this example) in the real world. If a series based on DB Heroes followed the same route (gave the main character the possibility of helping the others by using a card like a "normal" DB character would use a Ki-based attack), then it would be great!

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