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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:44 pm

JeffJarrett wrote:This game needs a lot of characters, more than BT3.
No it doesn't. The game can be just fine with 60 or maybe 70 characters. I want a DBZ game that is good for once. RB2 had a nice selection of characters, but the game was boring since it was nothing new.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:49 pm

Yeah. You look at the first Budokai game. It had mere 23 characters. Even with the small roster, it had tons of replay value. I'd like that on Battle of Z as well. I do hope they consider adding a story mode.
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Post by supersaiyan DbZ fan » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:52 pm

Hope its not a short game
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Post by JeffJarrett » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:58 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:No it doesn't. The game can be just fine with 60 or maybe 70 characters. I want a DBZ game that is good for once. RB2 had a nice selection of characters, but the game was boring since it was nothing new.
With 8 characters on the battle field at the same time, it has to have more characters than this.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:02 pm

The game needs to balance. If you have too many characters then most of them play the same which is what most people had issues with the Sparking games. The Sparking games in my opinion are all flash and no substance. They are fun, but they are too simple and a huge selection of characters won't help it. It's like with the Transformers movies. Sure they are fun, but they are still not any good.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:03 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:The game needs to balance. If you have too many characters then most of them play the same which is what most people had with the Sparking games. The Sparking games in my opinion are all flash and no substance. They are fun, but they are too simple and a huge selection of characters won't help it. It's like with the Transformers movies. Sure they are fun, but they are still not any good.
Isn't the point of a game to be fun?
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:12 pm

I don't want a Dragon Ball game that has different buttons for every character.
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Post by Makaioshin » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:29 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:The game needs to balance. If you have too many characters then most of them play the same which is what most people had with the Sparking games. The Sparking games in my opinion are all flash and no substance. They are fun, but they are too simple and a huge selection of characters won't help it. It's like with the Transformers movies. Sure they are fun, but they are still not any good.
Hopefully they are following ZBR in things other than group battles. Also you mention those movies a lot. Not that I like those movies or anything but DB is just entertainment too.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:36 pm

I just want the necessary characters. cutting people like Dabura, Goten, Trunks, Ultimate Gohan, etc is not ok.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:37 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:The game needs to balance. If you have too many characters then most of them play the same which is what most people had with the Sparking games. The Sparking games in my opinion are all flash and no substance. They are fun, but they are too simple and a huge selection of characters won't help it. It's like with the Transformers movies. Sure they are fun, but they are still not any good.
Isn't the point of a game to be fun?
Yeah but you need substance though. You can't have icing with no cake. From what I've seen from other DBZ fans, they don't care if the gameplay is good as long if they have a ton of characters. It's like what Mr. Plinkett pointed out in his review of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull that people enjoy the same shit that they like last time. I'm not saying that the Sparking games are bad, DBZ games need to be more then just large selection of characters.
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Post by supersaiyan DbZ fan » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:54 pm

I hope the story is very similar to BT2 because it has almost every battle and I want Dragon Ball GT and Dragon Ball.
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Post by supersaiyan DbZ fan » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:58 pm

Finally a Dragon Ball Z game on Vita. They must (I hope they?) give a release date (soon?).
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:59 pm

If it covers DBZ only (hopefully not), then the perfect roster would be this for me:

52 characters without transformations, 109 with transformations. I added the most popular Movie villains there, didn't include giants because they don't seem to be playable in this game, and also didn't include any what-if forms.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Noctis » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:05 pm

A french translation : http://db-z.com/wp-content/uploads/2013 ... n-jump.jpg

It says : "the genki gauge (=vital energy) will be on the top of your screen. the more you hit your ennemy, the more the gauge increases. Linked attack increase your genki gauge faster. When the genki gauge is full, you will become like « invulnerable » and you will be able to unleash a « special attack » with no more details. There also the "energy share" system to share your vital energy with your allied."

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:17 pm

Honestly base Broly is a pretty pointless character, we don't need him.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:19 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Honestly base Broly is a pretty pointless character, we don't need him.
Same for base Cell Games Gohan. I just added them for completeness.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:21 pm

Base Broly is pretty pointless, in that he didn't really do a lot (though he did attack Goku), but I'd rather they keep him if Broly's in the game at all, just for completion's sake. It feels weird to me when we get these games and a character exists only in his transformed state (still wondering why we never got a first form Hirudegarn).

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:25 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If it covers DBZ only (hopefully not), then the perfect roster would be this for me:
You skipped Freeza Soldier and the Ginyu Squad, which are already in. You also included SS Bardock without Chilled, which was pointless in DBZ Kinect and remains so here IMO.

Personally, I think this game is the perfect candidate for a large roster. The focus is on team battles, so shouldn't all the characters who had a team utilize that ability in the game? It's nice to fight Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta all at once. Why would I want to fight Coola without Neiz, Sauza or Dore? =P
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:30 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:You skipped Freeza Soldier and the Ginyu Squad, which are already in. You also included SS Bardock without Chilled, which was pointless in DBZ Kinect and remains so here IMO.
Thanks, fixed it. :mrgreen:
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by supersaiyan DbZ fan » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:35 pm

I DON'T want a repetition of ultimate tenkaichi ,I want base forms it feels realistic to the series
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