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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by B » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:28 pm

I'm not going to pretend that I extensively follow Heroes, but couldn't you take the basic idea of the card game and make a series out of that, and not actually portray kids playing a card game? The tie-in manga opts for the Yu-Gi-Oh! direction, but the game itself; is it not just Dragon Ball-esque races and fusions beating the tar out of each other?
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:34 pm

I don't think it would be completely like Yu-Gi-Oh!, since the player gets "inside the game" and fights with the other heroes/villains.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:34 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I don't think it would be completely like Yu-Gi-Oh!, since the player gets "inside the game" and fights with the other heroes/villains.
Maybe a Megaman Battle Network type show?
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:37 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Maybe a Megaman Battle Network type show?
I've no idea what you are talking about. :P
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:38 pm

B wrote:The tie-in manga opts for the Yu-Gi-Oh! direction, but the game itself; is it not just Dragon Ball-esque races and fusions beating the tar out of each other?
Nope. Even the arcade machine has a virtual arcade machine on the screen when you start it up, and it recognizes the cards that are placed on the battle stage and then sucks them and the player into the game.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:42 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Maybe a Megaman Battle Network type show?
I've no idea what you are talking about. :P
Basically, everybody on Earth has a digital helper, called a NetNavi, that goes into an internet world and fights viruses and other navis. The NetNavis tend to be based on the personality of the users. The human characters can upgrade the navis with battle chips, adding a level of strategy to the fights.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:48 pm

Why not have the whole show take place inside the arcade game? It's the only way that they can have it work since I don't see the show taken place in the same world as the other DB characters.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:00 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Basically, everybody on Earth has a digital helper, called a NetNavi, that goes into an internet world and fights viruses and other navis. The NetNavis tend to be based on the personality of the users. The human characters can upgrade the navis with battle chips, adding a level of strategy to the fights.
I guess it's similar, if I understood correctly.
Hellspawn28 wrote:It's the only way that they can have it work since I don't see the show taken place in the same world as the other DB characters.
It does take place in the Dragon World we know, actually. We've seen Orange School, Capsule Corp., and statues of Mr. Satan & Mr. Boo in a tournament.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Axiom » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:14 pm

penguintruth wrote:But it's a horrible, unwatchable show for anyone with a pulse.

DBZ is an action show. Not a show about kids standing around activating trap cards. I'm pretty sure I'd watch DBE before I'd watch a show where Generic Saiyan Child stands around summoning Exodia to fight Super Saiyan 9 Bardock.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Axiom » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:16 pm

penguintruth wrote:No. If you want to play a card game, play a card game yourself. I'm not watching a show where people play a card game.

What's next, watching a show about people playing Monopoly? Maybe the little thimble can be played by Toshio Furukawa.

This is silly. Watching a show about a thing you can actually do yourself. Hey, how about a show about a nitpicky 30 year old otaku who spends his time in front a computer screen arguing about the inflections of voices in a 30 year old Japanese cartoon? The whole show is just me sitting in front of my laptop. Aya Hirano plays the laptop. Romi Paku plays a can of Dr. Pepper.

Why watch people with cards when you can watch actual characters punching holes in each other and firing lasers that blow up the moon?

Not to mention all the overpowered bullcrap in Heroes. If I have to see SSJ Bardock again, I'm going to vomit violently.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:45 am

penguintruth wrote:
No. If you want to play a card game, play a card game yourself. I'm not watching a show where people play a card game.

What's next, watching a show about people playing Monopoly? Maybe the little thimble can be played by Toshio Furukawa.

This is silly. Watching a show about a thing you can actually do yourself. Hey, how about a show about a nitpicky 30 year old otaku who spends his time in front a computer screen arguing about the inflections of voices in a 30 year old Japanese cartoon? The whole show is just me sitting in front of my laptop. Aya Hirano plays the laptop. Romi Paku plays a can of Dr. Pepper.

Why watch people with cards when you can watch actual characters punching holes in each other and firing lasers that blow up the moon?

Not to mention all the overpowered bullcrap in Heroes. If I have to see SSJ Bardock again, I'm going to vomit violently.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Big Momma » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:58 am

penguintruth wrote:It's still kids playing a card game. That's like a show about putting together a jigsaw puzzle.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Ringworm128 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:09 am

Just because it's based on something you could do yourself doesn't affect how good the show is. There have been movies based on sports that have worked such as The Longest Yard. It's the story, writing and characters that make the show/movie, not the setting. Rocky would still be a great movie if you replaced the boxing aspect with something like a video game tournament because the characters would still be the same and it would still be a great story about an underdog getting a chance. Sorry but I just think it's REALLY close minded to dismiss an entire series based on "it's just card games." And shows like Yu Gi Oh aren't just kids playing card games at school with cliff hangers such as "will Yugi get his lunch money back". They're shows where the characters have to think to win with stakes such as needing to win or else your legs get cut of or loosing a memory every time one of your monsters are beaten or needing to advance in a tournament to stop a villain.

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Saiga » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:58 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
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Kamiccolo9 wrote:Maybe a Megaman Battle Network type show?
I've no idea what you are talking about. :P
Basically, everybody on Earth has a digital helper, called a NetNavi, that goes into an internet world and fights viruses and other navis. The NetNavis tend to be based on the personality of the users. The human characters can upgrade the navis with battle chips, adding a level of strategy to the fights.
This sound really interesting! Is this a game or TV series? I know the Megaman franchise is primarily video games, but I know there are anime adaptations of it.

Also, I'd like a DBH anime. I have no problem with shows about people playing games, in fact with stuff like SAO I wished they focused more on the game aspects and fleshed it out more. That's what I found most interesting about it.

The DBH anime would give them the potion to deliver some really good fight scenes, and their would be no possibility for strength/logical inconsistencies that may hurt people's enjoyment.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:17 am

I think a Dragon Ball Heroes anime would be fun, as long as they didn't try to make it into a serious story, and made it pure fan service. It would be an excuse for them animate new battles and transformations that could never occur within the series. Who wouldn't want to see SSJ 3 Goku and Broly team up against a super fusion between Freeza, Cell, and Buu? It wouldn't make any sense, and it would never happen in the series, but it would be fun to watch.

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Post by Ookalf » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:51 am

Saiga wrote:This sound really interesting! Is this a game or TV series? I know the Megaman franchise is primarily video games, but I know there are anime adaptations of it.
Both. It started as a video game series, and was also adapted into an anime series titled MegaMan NT Warrior.

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Post by penguintruth » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:25 pm

Yeah, going from three DB shows where characters actually fight each other to a show where kids play a card game, that's where the franchise needs to go.

What a wonderful evolution of the concepts. Who needs characters actually hitting each other when we can have people laying down cards? What earth-shattering hand of cards will Generic Hero Child lay down in battle his epic battle with Slightly Different Character? Screw blowing planets apart, this card game is where it's at!

I'd rather watch GT than this nonsense.
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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by Big Momma » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:34 pm

I dunno why it would have to be about them playing the actual card game. I'm with Penguin when he says it wouldn't fit the main franchise.

Why not adapt the manga chapters, or give the main kid a reason to have the powers (He found the dragonballs and wished for them?). Sure, it sounds a little silly....but there are a lot of possibilities besides cards for this.
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Post by Axiom » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:46 pm

Big Momma wrote:I dunno why it would have to be about them playing the actual card game. I'm with Penguin when he says it wouldn't fit the main franchise.

Why not adapt the manga chapters, or give the main kid a reason to have the powers (He found the dragonballs and wished for them?). Sure, it sounds a little silly....but there are a lot of possibilities besides cards for this.
My favorite possibility is the one where they don't make this steaming pile of ideas, it's this type of thinking that brought us GT and Evolution. Dragonball isn't the most "in depth" anime out there, and the fans are ok with that. What brought dragonball it's popularity was the action - taking that away takes away the main appeal. If you want it to be another anime - write another anime.

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Re: I wonder when Dragon Ball Heroes will be adapted for ani

Post by hulkty » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:26 pm

Never gonna happen, but you can always try to dream in color. LOL

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