SSJ2 teen Gohan (Cell saga) vs Broly (movie 10)?

[TheMightyOzaru]

There is no true way to determine who is stronger than who. You people really gonna have to agree to disagree since there are sooooo many factors to consider when it comes to movie villains. I have Broly in a general middle ground. Starts weaker than SSJ2 Kid Gohan and SPC, but can get stronger than SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta in a prolonged struggle.

[PerfectFreeza]

Indeed.But M10 LSSJ Broly isn't implied to have overflowing ki, is he?
Could that be perhaps because of Gohan giving him a fight?

[TheMightyOzaru]

Indeed.But M10 LSSJ Broly isn't implied to have overflowing ki, is he?
Could that be perhaps because of Gohan giving him a fight?

I'm referring to his Omega Blaster but some part of me thinks his Ki does grow.

[MDSTSSJ]

Yesterday I saw the Movie 10 again and I change my mind a little bit.

I think that Movie 10 Broly is strong as SSJ2 Kakarotto and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.

If Broly´s Ki continues to grow, things might change a bit.

[Kaboom]

Serious i am rolling my eyes and shaking my head to how low someone would go to have broly weak

We don't need to be rudely looking down on our peers like this. Try to keep the attitude in check, please. Also, please try to keep up with your spelling and grammar while you're at it.

[Cardle grave]

Indeed.But M10 LSSJ Broly isn't implied to have overflowing ki, is he?
Could that be perhaps because of Gohan giving him a fight?

How is getting beaten in 3 hits and tanked even close to a fight, the fight lasted 1:20 seconds. that is no fight as that is one hell of a shit stomp.

We don't need to be rudely looking down on our peers like this. Try to keep the attitude in check, please. Also, please try to keep up with your spelling and grammar while you're at it.

Trying to improve on it

It doesn't, since the book also fits Movie 8 within the timeline and yet Gohan's strength is portrayed inferior to Goku's in the film itself. They may make reference to specific events in the original story, but they're not shown to follow every detail to a tee especially when it comes to power. There is nothing in the book indicating that Gohan didn't train.

well said, I seriously don't see how timeline is going to determine power

[dbzfan7]

Indeed.But M10 LSSJ Broly isn't implied to have overflowing ki, is he?
Could that be perhaps because of Gohan giving him a fight?

I think of it as him mastering his LSSJ form which basically hurt his body when he couldn't contain his power.

I also don't believe Gohan gave Broly much of a fight if Gohan is left exhausted after trying to get rid of Broly, and Broly shows no signs of fatigue. If Gohan gave Broly a good fight then he should have at least shown some sign of weakening or slowing down (yet he seems perfectly fine). Broly never really seems to go for the kill at any point. He seems like Freeza who prefers to torture instead of finish things.

[PerfectFreeza]

He put up a way better performance, than everybody in M8 did and Broly actually seemed angry at some points, mainly when fighting Gohan as SSJ2.
Broly also seemed scratched up bad, after Gohan got ''rid'' off him.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Lets put it this way. Goku and everyone couldn't even phase Broly in Movie 8. In Movie 10 we see Gohan landing a few blows that actually knock Broly back and we even see him overpower Broly once. Broly is stronger, there is no doubt there, but it's pretty clear that Broly isn't THAT much stronger than Gohan.

[Kamiccolo9]

He put up a way better performance, than everybody in M8 did and Broly actually seemed angry at some points, mainly when fighting Gohan as SSJ2.
Broly also seemed scratched up bad, after Gohan got ''rid'' off him.

Broly was scratched up when he was in his SSJ state. The scratches just stayed after he transformed. Gohan didn't do any damage to LSSJ Broly.

[dbzfan7]

He put up a way better performance, than everybody in M8 did and Broly actually seemed angry at some points, mainly when fighting Gohan as SSJ2.
Broly also seemed scratched up bad, after Gohan got ''rid'' off him.

Broly was scratched up when he was in his SSJ state. The scratches just stayed after he transformed. Gohan didn't do any damage to LSSJ Broly.

Exactly. The most Gohan did was make it a little harder for him. If they were so close or even not that far off. How come Broly showed no fatigue or any sense of sowing down while Gohan was exhausted and drained of most of his power.

[Mjb1985]

I think Broly put Gohan down in like three hits right?

[Kamiccolo9]

I think Broly put Gohan down in like three hits right?

Something like that. Gohan got a couple of shots in, and broke Broly's hold, but Broly dominated that fight.

[Mjb1985]

Yea I have no problem placing Broly above Majin Vegeta and Goku based on that fight.

[Kamiccolo9]

Yea I have no problem placing Broly above Majin Vegeta and Goku based on that fight.

That's where I have him. Given the producer's statement that he is meant to be the strongest Saiyan, his dominating Gohan during the fight, and it taking SSJ2 Gohan, SSJ2 Goku, and SSJ Goten to overpower him, I place him somewhat above SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta. Nowhere near SSJ3, of course, but I think he can beat any of the SSJ2's in a one-on-one fight.

[dbzfan7]

Yea I have no problem placing Broly above Majin Vegeta and Goku based on that fight.

That's where I have him. Given the producer's statement that he is meant to be the strongest Saiyan, his dominating Gohan during the fight, and it taking SSJ2 Gohan, SSJ2 Goku, and SSJ Goten to overpower him, I place him somewhat above SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta. Nowhere near SSJ3, of course, but I think he can beat any of the SSJ2's in a one-on-one fight.

I still contemplating if I should put him above SSJ2 Goku, but what your saying is very convincing.

[Kaboom]

I would agree. I don't think he's too far ahead, though. Gohan still did a lot better against Broly in Movie 10 than anybody did in Movie 8, at least getting a few hits in and all. To demonstrate with numbers, I'd have them all like this...

LSSJ Broly: 10
SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta: 8
SSJ2 Gohan: 6

A sort of steady progression of power like that. Goku and Vegeta could still beat him if they worked together.

[dbzfan7]

I would agree. I don't think he's too far ahead, though. Gohan still did a lot better against Broly in Movie 10 than anybody did in Movie 8, at least getting a few hits in and all. To demonstrate with numbers, I'd have them all like this...

LSSJ Broly: 10
SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta: 8
SSJ2 Gohan: 6

A sort of steady progression of power like that. Goku and Vegeta could still beat him if they worked together.

Yeah I think Broly couldn't beat Goku and Vegeta if they teamed up.

[Mjb1985]

Well that places him perfectly with a manga counterpart.

Fat Buu Power Up 1 seems to be in this perfect area. And I also like this area for Broly as well. It gives him credit, but doesn't get out of hand.

[MDSTSSJ]

I would agree. I don't think he's too far ahead, though. Gohan still did a lot better against Broly in Movie 10 than anybody did in Movie 8, at least getting a few hits in and all. To demonstrate with numbers, I'd have them all like this...

LSSJ Broly: 10
SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta: 8
SSJ2 Gohan: 6

A sort of steady progression of power like that. Goku and Vegeta could still beat him if they worked together.

Mmm:

LSSJ Broly: 10

SSJ2 Kakarotto and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta: 10 plus speed advantage over Broly ( based on the fight SSJ2 Goku Vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta and Movie 10 Gohan Vs LSSJ Broly ). LSSJ Broly is somewhat slow as I could see.

SSJ2 Gohan: 7

Based on my conclusion, I see one on one fight between LSSJ Broly Vs SSJ2 Goku or LSSJ Broly Vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta but, maybe more difficult for those two if LSSJ Broly continue increasing his Ki.