SSJ2 teen Gohan (Cell saga) vs Broly (movie 10)?

[Draken]

You're saying that like the Cell arc and Boo arc wasn't inconsistent. Most of those fights you listed was for the plot's sake. As is more of the series fights are. Also Vegeta's body is more durable when dead(Like other dead people) so even if DB was consistent he would't be one shot. Cell vs Goku = Cell was holding back to be equal to Goku. SPC once again was toying with Vegeta through he had to prepare himself for the blast as Vegeta's anger could have at least damage he slightly. I don't really count movie battles.

Oh please, Freeza saga and Saiyan saga was inconsistent form here to next year with the whole Piccolo vs Freeza, Gohan vs Freeza and Vegeta vs Zarbon and Goku. The only plot i know in them fights are trunks surviving a punch form Super buu and something else. And Movies don't count well we are debating on a movie character so it does count.

Satan surviving Buu. Many times over. Who's inconsistent now? Gratz on nit-picking stuff and ignoring everything else against you. Nothing new here.

And what the fuck is this shit I thought we were done. GJ Cardle.

[TheGmGoken]

You're saying that like the Cell arc and Boo arc wasn't inconsistent. Most of those fights you listed was for the plot's sake. As is more of the series fights are. Also Vegeta's body is more durable when dead(Like other dead people) so even if DB was consistent he would't be one shot. Cell vs Goku = Cell was holding back to be equal to Goku. SPC once again was toying with Vegeta through he had to prepare himself for the blast as Vegeta's anger could have at least damage he slightly. I don't really count movie battles.

Oh please, Freeza saga and Saiyan saga was inconsistent form here to next year with the whole Piccolo vs Freeza, Gohan vs Freeza and Vegeta vs Zarbon and Goku. The only plot i know in them fights are trunks surviving a punch form Super buu and something else. And Movies don't count well we are debating on a movie character so it does count.

Satan surviving Buu. Many times over. Who's inconsistent now? Gratz on nit-picking stuff and ignoring everything else against you. Nothing new here.

And what the fuck is this shit I thought we were done. GJ Cardle.

I thought it was done to till he randomly decided to say:

Seriously guys get real

Does it look like anyone after freeza saga who has a 1.25 gap can one shot or tank a blast.

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Of course as this is not saiyan saga nor freeza saga,This movie happen in Buu Saga. You don't see Cell tank Goku kamehameha like Piccolo did to Goku at Budokai or Bojack one-shotting Vegeta since his practically more then 2x stronger then him. Or Kid Buu one-shotting vegeta or Fat buu one-shoting vegeta. And there gaps are more then 3x


Anything before Freeza saga was bullshit, Like Piccolo not being one-shot by 50% Freeza or Gohan as well. Or Vegeta not dying form Goku kamehameha but able to one-shot Zarbon. It was all plot

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All the Gaps between them would of been one-shot in Freeza or Saiyan Saga. But Cell and Buu shown otherwise. And I proved that Freeza Saga and Saiyan Saga itself can be inconsistent at time

. I was dumb enough to respond so I'm sorry Draken. I forgot it was Cardle grave who never stops.

[Cardle grave]

Ok How the fuck does Mr Satan surviving a punch works towards you and any argument for that matter. its a Plot as the same as trunk surviving a hit for Super buu as i said before. So Please tell me how the fuck that relates to anything

And, Like Really is that your argument And. 50% freeza not one-shotting Piccolo is an (And) but Vegeta fight against Fat buu is a Plot and shouldn't be debated

I am Looking at my bullshit meter now and its over 9000

[TheGmGoken]

Ok How the fuck does Mr Satan surviving a punch works towards you and any argument for that matter. its a Plot as the same as trunk surviving a hit for Super buu as i said before. So Please tell me how the fuck that relates to anything

And, Like Really is that your argument And. 50% freeza not one-shotting Piccolo is an (And) but Vegeta fight against Fat buu is a Plot and shouldn't be debated

I am Looking at my bullshit meter now and its over 9000

His point was that Boo Arc and Cell Arc has just as much inconsistencies that are for the plot as the other arcs. Please with the attitude, please control it. It's just the internet.

[Cardle grave]

Ok How the fuck does Mr Satan surviving a punch works towards you and any argument for that matter. its a Plot as the same as trunk surviving a hit for Super buu as i said before. So Please tell me how the fuck that relates to anything

And, Like Really is that your argument And. 50% freeza not one-shotting Piccolo is an (And) but Vegeta fight against Fat buu is a Plot and shouldn't be debated

I am Looking at my bullshit meter now and its over 9000

His point was that Boo Arc and Cell Arc has just as much inconsistencies that are for the plot as the other arcs. Please with the attitude, please control it. It's just the internet.

Oh Fucking Get real, because Mr Satan survived the Hit all Cell and Buu saga they Are now considered inconsistent serious what kind of logic is that. Keep Ignoring that there is inconsistency in Freeza and Saiyan Saga and focus all your attention to Cell and Buu Saga.

My Meter just broke now that the bullshit is over 10000. Banned me like i give a shit

[TheGmGoken]

Ok How the fuck does Mr Satan surviving a punch works towards you and any argument for that matter. its a Plot as the same as trunk surviving a hit for Super buu as i said before. So Please tell me how the fuck that relates to anything

And, Like Really is that your argument And. 50% freeza not one-shotting Piccolo is an (And) but Vegeta fight against Fat buu is a Plot and shouldn't be debated

I am Looking at my bullshit meter now and its over 9000

His point was that Boo Arc and Cell Arc has just as much inconsistencies that are for the plot as the other arcs. Please with the attitude, please control it. It's just the internet.

Oh Fucking Get real, because Mr Satan survived the Hit all Cell and Buu saga they Are now considered inconsistent serious what kind of logic is that. Keep Ignoring that there is inconsistency in Freeza and Saiyan Saga and focus all your attention to Cell and Buu Saga.

My Meter just broke now that the bullshit is over 10000. Banned me like i give a shit

It wasn't just Cell and Boo vs Satan that were inconsistent in those arcs. Cell power ups was inconsistent at times as well. When did we ever ignore the Saiyan and Freeza arcs? All we said was that there was inconsistencies in Boo and Cell Arc as well. To be honest you're acting like that everything you say has to right. If you want to be banned then go ahead and ask or keep acting the way you do. Doesn't make you right just make you seem childish.

[Cardle grave]

It wasn't just Cell and Boo vs Satan that were inconsistent in those arcs. Cell power ups was inconsistent at times as well. When did we ever ignore the Saiyan and Freeza arcs? All we said was that there was inconsistencies in Boo and Cell Arc as well. To be honest you're acting like that everything you say has to right. If you want to be banned then go ahead and ask or keep acting the way you do. Doesn't make you right just make you seem childish.

I am Not right and i never said i was, and i don't act like i am right. And what is Inconsistent in Buu and Cell Arc. Really this is the first tell me how are cell power ups inconsistent and besides Mr Satan and Trunks Moments in Buu saga and Cell saga. What else is inconsistent.

Akira made a whole saga for the lol i am guessing

[Kamiccolo9]

I like how the guy who started this thread never said anything again. He/she was smart enough to stay away.

And you two, is this really worth it? Just agree to disagree and move on with your lives. As it is, neither of you are making sense, and I for one have no idea what either of you are talking about.

[Cardle grave]

Fine i will stop

But don't think you won or this is over. Because it far form it

[Draken]

Fine i will stop

But don't think you won or this is over. Because it far form it

No, I think is over. And long overdue.

[Cardle grave]

Why would i care what you think. You wanna know what i think. I think you should go eat shit

[Kaboom]

Certain necessary actions have been taken. If we still want to, we can now let this thread continue down the somewhat-productive path it was on a few pages ago.

[Draken]

Why would i care what you think. You wanna know what i think. I think you should go eat shit

That's offensive. Shit can taste really good depending on the setting!

[Son_Gohan]

Jeez, Broly discussions really channel the inner rage of people.

Him even being budged by Gohan's hits (and getting hurt and pissed off, and at one point flat out overpowered) indicate that he can't even be anywhere near twice as strong. Gohan is 70% of him at worst.

I'm not so sure such a feat is shown to matter in the movie much. Videl manages to make SSJ Broly budge with a kick, Gohan even makes LSSJ Broly budge from a strike while in base form when escaping his hold.

[TheGmGoken]

I like how the guy who started this thread never said anything again. He/she was smart enough to stay away.

And you two, is this really worth it? Just agree to disagree and move on with your lives. As it is, neither of you are making sense, and I for one have no idea what either of you are talking about.

Why you think I stop replying lol. It was just going into circles.

But don't think you won or this is over. Because it far form it

Was that really necessary? Seriously dude. Chill. Just the internet,

[PerfectFreeza]

To be honest, HercuIe is just a gag character, so his feats against both Cell and Buu shouldn't count as an evidence of inconsistency.

[TheGmGoken]

To be honest, HercuIe is just a gag character, so his feats against both Cell and Buu shouldn't count as an evidence of inconsistency.

Agreed by Draken was just saying even things post Freeza had inconsistency. Cardle was implying that anything pre Android arc was the only thing in DB's history that had inconsistency

[PerfectFreeza]

He's clearly wrong then, since in the manga, SPC braces for SSJ1 Vegeta's attacks, even though Cell is in a whole differed dimension, than Vegeta.

Broly I generally think of

M8 Ssj = Ssj Kid Gohan CG
M8 Lssj = Power Weighted Cell
M10 Ssj = Perfect Cell
M10 Lssj = Fat Buu Power Up 1

Too strong.M10 SSJ Broly is suggested to have the same gap between him and Base Gohan and M8 Base Gohan and LSSJ Broly, but on top that, Gohan is considerably stronger, meanining SSJ Broly is actually stronger.
And since he is just stated to surpass Buu saga FPSSJ Goku, then his M8 LSSJ counterpart is not anywhere near Full Power Perfect Cell.

[Mjb1985]

That's how you interpret that line. I clearly don't.

[Hugo Boss]

How I think Broly phases:

Goku SSJ2 > M10 LSSJ > Vegeta SSJ2 > M10 SSJ > Vegeta SSJ (Buu Saga) > M8 LSSJ > Goku SSJ CG (Full Power) > M8 SSJ > Goku SSJ CG (Half Power)

In movie 8, Broly took a kick in his neck like Cell did against Super Vegeta, but he proceeded to a power-up possibly surpassing Goku SSJ CG (Half Power). Goku managed to gather everyone's energy and I guess it would tap Vegeta SSJ's (Buu Saga) powerlevel. As I have LSSJ as a double multiplier IMO, I would put Broly LSSJ on par with Supressed Perfect Cell.

In movie 10, as Daizenshuu states Broly SSJ surpassed the Goku he previously fought, I would put him above Vegeta SSJ (Buu Saga). He demonstrated to tank Kid Trunks' blasts and I don't think Vegeta wouldn't defend himself from that kind of attacks. Base Gohan managed to give him some fight, but Broly SSJ was just toying with everyone. I would put Broly SSJ in the same level as Perfect Cell.

Then, we have a lot to discuss. I justified my opinion based on Goku merely giving moral support, Daizenshuu gave that option to me, you can agree or not. So, I thought Broly LSSJ would be above Gohan SSJ2 (Full Power), the same power Vegeta wasn't sure he had surpassed, but under Gohan SSJ2 + Goten SSJ (both at full power). And I have Goku SSJ2 much stronger than Kid Gohan SSJ2. I just want to be clear that it's just my opinion, I don't think Goku SSJ2 would need Paikuhan's help to defeat Broly in Hell, they seem not to team up against any opponent.

On topic, I agree with TheMightyOzaru. In a straight fight Gohan would win, but in a prolonged fight Broly would have an upper hand. A beam struggle between them would result in Broly's victory.