Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Storm101 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:00 am

Zen Buu has Goku absorbed, he should be able to use Kaioken... Wouldn't that be OP as hell, lol. His body could probably handle it very well.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:02 am

Storm101 wrote:Zen Buu has Goku absorbed, he should be able to use Kaioken... Wouldn't that be OP as hell, lol. His body could probably handle it very well.
Speaking of that. Should't Cell be able to do that?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Vegito1089 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:15 am

TheGmGoken wrote:Just out of curiosity. In one of the comments on the DB pages(From a long time ago like 2009ish maybe longer) Salagir said said DBM is more canon then DBGT. Was that discussed here. I'm remember it being heavily discussed on Byond, Youtube, and the comments sections of DBM. I wasn't a member(nor did I hear of) Kanzenshuu at the time but was it discuss here?
Oh please give me the page number on where that was stated on DBM or on this thread. :D

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by miguelnuva1 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:53 am

Vegito created an attack just to stop Buu didn't he and was using it in Space?

Anyway Goku and Vegeta should have gained enough on their own that Gogeta could be able to stop Vegito. I'm still hoping for that fight.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:35 am

Vegito1089 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Just out of curiosity. In one of the comments on the DB pages(From a long time ago like 2009ish maybe longer) Salagir said said DBM is more canon then DBGT. Was that discussed here. I'm remember it being heavily discussed on Byond, Youtube, and the comments sections of DBM. I wasn't a member(nor did I hear of) Kanzenshuu at the time but was it discuss here?
Oh please give me the page number on where that was stated on DBM or on this thread. :D
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:45 am

Ok, loving it. So when Son Bra (can't get over that stupid fucking name, means shadow in my language) transforms into Super Saiyan, she topples over a Super Saiyan 3. Yeah, that's believable.

Also, please someone find that exact quote by Salagir, that is so deliciously arrogant that I'm not even sure what to do with it. I've been telling you guys for a long, long time; this guy is incredible arrogant and hypocritical and he lacks any true writing talent. The only thing that makes this fanfic superior to others is the art, there are many far better fanfic writers that unfortunately do not possess the skills or the interested parties to be able to turn it into a proper fan manga. All this makes me feel very disappointed. I'm sure I could write better material than this fucker.

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:09 am

I would love to see Gogeta send Vegito flying and go to Bra's reaction.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:20 am

DNA wrote:Ok, loving it. So when Son Bra (can't get over that stupid fucking name, means shadow in my language) transforms into Super Saiyan, she topples over a Super Saiyan 3. Yeah, that's believable.
I find it believable. GT Perfect Files explain that a Saiyan kid inherits his parents' power (though it seems more likely that they mean dormant power), which explains why Goten & Trunks were so strong. Now, Bra is a Saiyan Halfling, and Saiyan Halflings have dormant power greater than their father's, and Bra's father is Vegetto. So... yeah.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:23 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
DNA wrote:Ok, loving it. So when Son Bra (can't get over that stupid fucking name, means shadow in my language) transforms into Super Saiyan, she topples over a Super Saiyan 3. Yeah, that's believable.
I find it believable. GT Perfect Files explain that a Saiyan kid inherits his parents' power (though it seems more likely that they mean dormant power), which explains why Goten & Trunks were so strong. Now, Bra is a Saiyan Halfling, and Saiyan Halflings have dormant power greater than their father's, and Bra's father is Vegetto. So... yeah.
Still! That much powerful? Dude, come on!

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:26 am

DNA wrote:Still! That much powerful? Dude, come on!
Vegetto is a beast, so his child should be a beast as well. :P She is probably the only one capable of surpassing Vegetto through training, and I feels right to me.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dr. Machismo » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:28 am

It really makes sense as to why Bulla is so strong. Being the daughter of a fused character, she should be extremely powerful. It also explains why she's so unstable, too.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by omegalucas » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:48 am

miguelnuva1 wrote: Anyway Goku and Vegeta should have gained enough on their own that Gogeta could be able to stop Vegito. I'm still hoping for that fight.
I think so as well. I don't think Vegetto has made much progress since his birth considering he probably has no big means of training other than Bra.
Goku and Vegeta probably have progressed a fair bit so a fusion between them would probably give them enough power.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saiga » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:36 am

Vegetto has definitely progressed decently based on those character tiers. Just in base he's gone from Evil Boo level (at most) to U. Gohan level, who easily beat down Evil Boo.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:37 am

It's BS that Son Bra is so powerful, but it was also already (official) BS that Goten and Kid Trunks were so powerful.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:43 am

Marco Polo wrote:it was also already (official) BS that Goten and Kid Trunks were so powerful.
I disagree. They have huge amounts of dormant power, and they were "playing fight" since they were little kids. Since they were born with the ability to turn Super Saiyan, they were "playing fight" all the time as Super Saiyans, which made them master the SS form, and granted them huge gains by sparring.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saiga » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:04 am

Yeah, Goten and Trunks are fine. But Bra is completely BS, as is the inherited strength thing. Especially given Salagir's tier logic.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:13 pm

I agree on the power of the brats being bullshit, but that doesn't justify Bra's power being even more bullshit.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:30 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:I agree on the power of the brats being bullshit, but that doesn't justify Bra's power being even more bullshit.
Same here. It really doesn't make any sense for her to be THAT strong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DHM211 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:13 pm

DNA wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:I agree on the power of the brats being bullshit, but that doesn't justify Bra's power being even more bullshit.
Same here. It really doesn't make any sense for her to be THAT strong.
In a universe where future Gohan can kill Dabura and lose to 17 & 18, any thing makes sense. :crazy:

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:32 pm

DHM211 wrote:
DNA wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:I agree on the power of the brats being bullshit, but that doesn't justify Bra's power being even more bullshit.
Same here. It really doesn't make any sense for her to be THAT strong.
In a universe where future Gohan can kill Dabura and lose to 17 & 18, any thing makes sense. :crazy:
My problem with it is the fact that he takes everything so seriously and is so high and mighty about stuff, like he knows best, even better than Toriyama himself.
If he took it jokingly, I could even swallow Yajirobe kicking all kinds of ass, heck, I would welcome that!

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