How strong is Grey Buu?

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How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by IAmAwesome » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:37 pm

I have Grey Buu at the same level as Kid Boo(Pure Buu on this website) but similar to Cell Junioras the durbailty of Grey Buu is lower. Hence why his body is skinny.
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:39 pm

I have him higher than Kid Buu due to superior feats and the power of Super Buu.
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by Hugo Boss » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:57 pm

Weaker than Fat Buu and stronger than Mr. Buu. The Fat Buu's power was splited in two beings, an evil and a good Boo.

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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:04 pm

People often forget that Fat Buu seemingly did one last power up before he split- his aura flared and steam came out of his head, which is what always happens when he gets mad and powers up, like he did a few other times in that arc.

Fat Buu (angered to the point of splitting) >>> Fat Buu (angered by Vegeta blasting a hole in him) > Fat Buu (angry at Dabura insulting him) >> Fat Buu (no anger)

Based on his fight with Kid Buu, it's pretty obvious that Good Buu is SS3-tier.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:06 pm

Pure Evil Buu is half as strong as Pure Buu IMO.
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:16 pm

I'm with Random. I think that Fat Buu just prior to the split was even with Super Buu, and that Pure Evil Buu is stronger than Pure Buu.
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by Saiga » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:41 pm

Yeap, I also believe that Fat Boo is SS3-tier for the reasons previously mentioned. So Grey Boo is pretty damn strong, stronger than Pure Boo or SS3 Goku.
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:32 pm

Never thought Grey Boo was anything special. I think he's stronger than a Super Saiyan 2 but weaker than Super Saiyan 3 Goku.
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by PerfectFreeza » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:36 pm

He should be below SSJ3 Goku, since his ki didn't reach Sacred Realm of Kais.
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:38 pm

PerfectFreeza wrote:He should be below SSJ3 Goku, since his ki didn't reach Sacred Realm of Kais.
Neither did Super Buu's. Or SSJ3 Gotenks.
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:39 pm

Super Boo was immediately sensed from the Kaioshin world by Goku and the others.
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:40 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Super Boo was immediately sensed from the Kaioshin world by Goku and the others.
My mistake. Gotenks still wasn't.
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:41 pm

I don't think they needed to sense Gotenks. They were watching him through the crystal ball thingy.
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by Hugo Boss » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:41 pm

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Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Super Boo was immediately sensed from the Kaioshin world by Goku and the others.
My mistake. Gotenks still wasn't.
Do you mean Pre-RoSaT Gotenks?

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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:42 pm

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Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Super Boo was immediately sensed from the Kaioshin world by Goku and the others.
My mistake. Gotenks still wasn't.
Do you mean Pre-RoSaT Gotenks?
No, I'm talking about SSJ3 Gotenks. I don't remember if they sensed him before that or not, but I don't believe so. They also didn't immediately sense Pure Buu from the Kaioshin Realm.
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:52 pm

They were watching him, though. I don't think there's a reason why Kaioshin or old Kaioshin would comment on his Chi. They sensed Super Boo on the Kaioshin world because he was powerful enough to be sensed. Gohan was sensed all the way from earth by Boo. As for Kid Boo, I recall Piccolo sensing his power from earth.

It's hard to believe two Super Saiyan 3 level beings wouldn't be sensed by Goku or Kaioshin at all. From what I can remember, Goku wasn't even aware of two Boo's existing; Vegeta had to tell him how Super Boo came to be. If Fat Boo was really nearing Super Boo's power, I don't see much of a reason for Goku's reaction upon sensing Super Boo's new Chi, since he would've already knew something was up. With the way Piccolo comments on Fat Boo before he releases the evil energy, I don't think it was a typical pissed off power-up from Boo.
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by Hugo Boss » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:54 pm

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Kamiccolo9 wrote:My mistake. Gotenks still wasn't.
Do you mean Pre-RoSaT Gotenks?
No, I'm talking about SSJ3 Gotenks. I don't remember if they sensed him before that or not, but I don't believe so. They also didn't immediately sense Pure Buu from the Kaioshin Realm.
Maybe because there is a limit to the power be sensed in great distances by accident. Pure Buu (Kid Buu) is weaker than Goku SSJ3 (dead). There is a difference between the living and the dead Goku SSJ3 in terms of how using ki.

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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:02 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:They were watching him, though. I don't think there's a reason why Kaioshin or old Kaioshin would comment on his Chi. They sensed Super Boo on the Kaioshin world because he was powerful enough to be sensed. Gohan was sensed all the way from earth by Boo. As for Kid Boo, I recall Piccolo sensing his power from earth.

It's hard to believe two Super Saiyan 3 level beings wouldn't be sensed by Goku or Kaioshin at all. From what I can remember, Goku wasn't even aware of two Boo's existing; Vegeta had to tell him how Super Boo came to be. If Fat Boo was really nearing Super Boo's power, I don't see much of a reason for Goku's reaction upon sensing Super Boo's new Chi, since he would've already knew something was up. With the way Piccolo comments on Fat Boo before he releases the evil energy, I don't think it was a typical pissed off power-up from Boo.
The thing is though, that they weren't even trying to sense Goku; his ki just appeared to Gohan and Kaioshin without them trying to search for him. Why wouldn't Gotenks have done the same? Or Pure Buu?
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Re: How strong is Grey Buu?

Post by PerfectFreeza » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:05 pm

Pre-Rosat Gotenks was felt though.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:08 pm

PerfectFreeza wrote:Pre-Rosat Gotenks was felt though.
That just makes it inconsistent. Piccolo was able to sense Pure Buu, yet had no idea about Gohan? SSJ3 Goku blew everyone away without them even trying to sense him, yet Gotenks popping out of the ROSAT in SSJ3 didn't send anyone reeling? It's too inconsistent to have any bearing on a character's strength.
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