FUNimation "DBZ on Blu-Ray" Survey

[chaosyoshimage]

That's certainly possible, as it was done with the first season of the remastered Star Trek, which had one side DVD and the other HD-DVD. Personal preference, though, I absolutely hate double-sided discs and seriously hope they don't go down that route. In fact, forget the whole "combo" concept and instead consider they just follow the same model they used with Kai, a Blu-ray and DVD release. However, the DVD version would only be worth it if it was in 4:3, otherwise it would just be a repackaged season set.

Combo-packs often contain a DVD and a Blu-Ray on separate disks. They aren't "flippers". Funimation does them a lot, but I don't think they've ever done them with a Dragon Ball release.

Even if they were to, "flippers" are horrible. I hate how easy it is to accidentally smudge or scratch them.

I'm not a fan of them either. Funimation has never done them as far as I know so I wouldn't be too worried. I'm not even sure if you can have a DVD on one side with a Blu-Ray on the other.

[Kuwabara]

They won't be. There's just no point. We already have the bricks. And a 291 episode series being released on Blu-Ray/DVD combo packs is unprecedented. You'd need twice the number of discs, making each box that much thicker. Pillar boxing and cropping are pretty relevant to the discussion. DVD/Blu combo packs are hardly a possibility, and the speculation really came out of thin air.

They might be relevant to the discussion, but I tried to inject something new to the topic only for it to be followed by four or five posts about pillar boxing making someone feel claustrophobic? The speculation didn't come out of thin air either, the MSRP is similar to other combo packs FUNimation released in the past.

In fact, forget the whole "combo" concept and instead consider they just follow the same model they used with Kai, a Blu-ray and DVD release.

I wouldn't be opposed to a release model like this either, and would actually prefer it. If FUNimation phased out the Orange Bricks while still being able to profit off of DBZ on DVD, wouldn't everyone win?

[ABED]

That's certainly possible, as it was done with the first season of the remastered Star Trek, which had one side DVD and the other HD-DVD. Personal preference, though, I absolutely hate double-sided discs and seriously hope they don't go down that route. In fact, forget the whole "combo" concept and instead consider they just follow the same model they used with Kai, a Blu-ray and DVD release. However, the DVD version would only be worth it if it was in 4:3, otherwise it would just be a repackaged season set.

I hate them as well. I own season 8 of the office and I feel like I'm going to scratch or break them. I was just saying that's an option.

[Kojiro Sasaki]

Maybe let's go back to the topic? (DBZ on Blu-Ray)
I think that TV specials should be also included. They need level sets-like treatment.

[Kendamu]

I don't think that we need a combo pack. DBZ is going for a second attempt at 1080p at the dawn of 4K. Decent LCD TVs and Blu-ray players aren't a huge investment like they used to be if you're not looking to have 3D functions and voice/gesture-based controls built in. I would love to see the Orange Bricks phased out and if that means DVD has to go with it, that's fine by me. It'll probably be 2014 before we see these discs on the market. If people want the next release that badly, now is a good time to start saving up for that $400 40" LCD TV, $75 Smart Blu-ray player, and a $20 HDMI cable.

I could be wrong, but if the Level Sets were any sort of indicator, there isn't going to be a simultaneous DVD release with this one.

[MuffinButton]

I don't think that we need a combo pack. DBZ is going for a second attempt at 1080p at the dawn of 4K. Decent LCD TVs and Blu-ray players aren't a huge investment like they used to be if you're not looking to have 3D functions and voice/gesture-based controls built in. I would love to see the Orange Bricks phased out and if that means DVD has to go with it, that's fine by me. It'll probably be 2014 before we see these discs on the market. If people want the next release that badly, now is a good time to start saving up for that $400 40" LCD TV, $75 Smart Blu-ray player, and a $20 HDMI cable.

I could be wrong, but if the Level Sets were any sort of indicator, there isn't going to be a simultaneous DVD release with this one.

$20 HDMI cable? Dude, you are being ripped off. Go on Monoprice.com and you can find some for around $5. They're all pretty much the same, no matter what companies advertise them as.

[Kendamu]

I don't think that we need a combo pack. DBZ is going for a second attempt at 1080p at the dawn of 4K. Decent LCD TVs and Blu-ray players aren't a huge investment like they used to be if you're not looking to have 3D functions and voice/gesture-based controls built in. I would love to see the Orange Bricks phased out and if that means DVD has to go with it, that's fine by me. It'll probably be 2014 before we see these discs on the market. If people want the next release that badly, now is a good time to start saving up for that $400 40" LCD TV, $75 Smart Blu-ray player, and a $20 HDMI cable.

I could be wrong, but if the Level Sets were any sort of indicator, there isn't going to be a simultaneous DVD release with this one.

$20 HDMI cable? Dude, you are being ripped off. Go on Monoprice.com and you can find some for around $5. They're all pretty much the same, no matter what companies advertise them as.

Not exactly. While HDMI cables in general are overpriced, they aren't "all the same." Insulation and quality of wiring used determines how well a cable deals with electrical interference and how fast the data transfer is. Quality materials also ensure that the cable is less likely to break during normal plugging and unplugging. Your crappy super thin HDMI cable, while playing a video game, isn't going to load things as quickly and it's going to affect draw distances. This can be a problem when you're looking for guys to drop down on in an Arkham game or you could start tripping over invisible people while running in an Assassin's Creed game.

Take a look at this image to see the difference.

Unless it has a lifetime replacement guarantee that also includes obsolescence (to replace your 1080p cable for a 4K cable and so on), I wouldn't suggest buying a $150 HDMI cable. I wouldn't even suggest a decently-priced cable for a DirecTV box hooked up to a 17" TV in the kitchen. However, if you're going to go out about guy a large 1080p TV and a good Blu-ray player, you're doing yourself a disservice by choosing a cable that has a low data transfer rate because then you're not using all your cool new toys to their potential.

I know that once upon a time the only real difference was "High Speed" or "not High Speed," but I've seen the difference for myself on my own equipment.

I sell this stuff for a living, but I don't work on commission. This means I don't make any more or less money for which cables I sell and can be unbiased.

[TheGmGoken]

Amazon customer review:

By Matthew R. Auman
All the new remastered levels of DBZ are great but why even make it in blu ray if the ratio is not 16:9. Hardly anyone has tube televisions anymore so thats almost in a way what you are watching. Even the remastered dvd versions are in 16:9. It just doesnt make any sense. Its like an oxymoron. You get it in bluray but you also are looking a picture that should be on a tube television.

Thanks,

Big DBZ Fan

^ THIS, is why they're polling on 16:9 vs 4:3. Because people are idiots. And they need the idiots to BUY BUY BUY to make their DBZ flood viable.

Indeed. I bet blue rays might become 16:3. Due to fans who are apparently "Big DBZ Fans" who think Dbz is a 16:3 anime. I doubt they don't even know Funimation DBZ is inaccurate. . I give this review a

[superrayman3]

Amazon customer review:

By Matthew R. Auman
All the new remastered levels of DBZ are great but why even make it in blu ray if the ratio is not 16:9. Hardly anyone has tube televisions anymore so thats almost in a way what you are watching. Even the remastered dvd versions are in 16:9. It just doesnt make any sense. Its like an oxymoron. You get it in bluray but you also are looking a picture that should be on a tube television.

Thanks,

Big DBZ Fan

^ THIS, is why they're polling on 16:9 vs 4:3. Because people are idiots. And they need the idiots to BUY BUY BUY to make their DBZ flood viable.

Indeed. I bet blue rays might become 16:3. Due to fans who are apparently "Big DBZ Fans" who think Dbz is a 16:3 anime. I doubt they don't even know Funimation DBZ is inaccurate. . I give this review a

16:3? What the heck does a 16:3 aspect ratio look like?

[eledoremassis02]

If these new blurays are 16:9 then I give up lol. I will spend whatever for the remaining Dragon Boxes I need lol

[dbret12]

Let's hope that the new Blu-rays are in 4:3. And I bet they will be. Hopefully.

[theoriginalbilis]

In all honesty, I can't imagine they won't be 4:3. It's silly that they even included the option in the survey.

Dude, if the Blu-Rays aren't in their original aspect ratio, I. will. totally. eat. the. hat. I. am. wearing.

[TheGmGoken]

In all honesty, I can't imagine they won't be 4:3. It's silly that they even included the option in the survey.

Dude, if the Blu-Rays aren't in their original aspect ratio, I. will. totally. eat. the. hat. I. am. wearing.

You're on a PC with a hat on? .

[Corpsecreate]

Any idea if these Blu-rays will continue where the Level Sets left off or if they will restart from episode 1? Given that FUNimation are potentially going 16:9, that would indicate a complete reboot, otherwise you would have 1-35 in 4:3 (Level Sets) and then 36-291 in 16:9 which would be weird.

[theoriginalbilis]

In all honesty, I can't imagine they won't be 4:3. It's silly that they even included the option in the survey.

Dude, if the Blu-Rays aren't in their original aspect ratio, I. will. totally. eat. the. hat. I. am. wearing.

You're on a PC with a hat on? .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9-sZoNzKis

[Captain Awesome]

Not exactly. While HDMI cables in general are overpriced, they aren't "all the same." Insulation and quality of wiring used determines how well a cable deals with electrical interference and how fast the data transfer is. Quality materials also ensure that the cable is less likely to break during normal plugging and unplugging. Your crappy super thin HDMI cable, while playing a video game, isn't going to load things as quickly and it's going to affect draw distances. This can be a problem when you're looking for guys to drop down on in an Arkham game or you could start tripping over invisible people while running in an Assassin's Creed game.

Yeah, no.

Everything you're talking about is all done on the console side, draw distances, texture streaming and level of detail calculations are all completely done by the CPU/GPU and the issues you've mentioned are in this console generation to do with the streaming techniques developers had to employ due to the tiny amount of system RAM and VRAM present in both consoles. Your cable has absolutely nothing to do with the ways in which game assets load, it simply transmits a video signal that your system outputs, nothing more. Any differences in this regard you have simply imagined.

As far as your argument on cable quality, it's debatable, latency with digital signals simply does not become an issue until you hit 10 to 15 meters, and even then it's infinitesimal, what you're the victim of is advertising that intentionally misleads the consumer into thinking that their cable either suffers from the same signal degradation and interference issues as analog signals, or that their HDMI cable is somehow their DSL line and affected by data transfer speeds.

Digital signals over a cable either work or they don't, there is no interference, and there is no difference in picture quality.

[Corpsecreate]

^Everything said above is correct.

[Vegard Aune]

16:3? What the heck does a 16:3 aspect ratio look like?

Something like this, I imagine.
*Vegard Aune fills out the survey and tells FUNi that they should totally release all their anime in 16:3 from now on.*

[Kendamu]

Not exactly. While HDMI cables in general are overpriced, they aren't "all the same." Insulation and quality of wiring used determines how well a cable deals with electrical interference and how fast the data transfer is. Quality materials also ensure that the cable is less likely to break during normal plugging and unplugging. Your crappy super thin HDMI cable, while playing a video game, isn't going to load things as quickly and it's going to affect draw distances. This can be a problem when you're looking for guys to drop down on in an Arkham game or you could start tripping over invisible people while running in an Assassin's Creed game.

Yeah, no.

Everything you're talking about is all done on the console side, draw distances, texture streaming and level of detail calculations are all completely done by the CPU/GPU and the issues you've mentioned are in this console generation to do with the streaming techniques developers had to employ due to the tiny amount of system RAM and VRAM present in both consoles. Your cable has absolutely nothing to do with the ways in which game assets load, it simply transmits a video signal that your system outputs, nothing more. Any differences in this regard you have simply imagined.

As far as your argument on cable quality, it's debatable, latency with digital signals simply does not become an issue until you hit 10 to 15 meters, and even then it's infinitesimal, what you're the victim of is advertising that intentionally misleads the consumer into thinking that their cable either suffers from the same signal degradation and interference issues as analog signals, or that their HDMI cable is somehow their DSL line and affected by data transfer speeds.

Digital signals over a cable either work or they don't, there is no interference, and there is no difference in picture quality.

You're not going to convince me that what I was having trouble with when switching to a crappy cable (after my first one broke) and then that problem being fixed after I switched to a better cable simply didn't happen. I experienced that for myself. Don't confuse my ideas as, "Go spend $150 on a cable." I'm just saying not to buy end cheapest piece of crap out there.

[Metalwario64]

I'll just say that I was using a $20-$30 HDMI cable, and when I went to disconnect it, the connecting pins completely tore out of the connection end in the TV.

I bought one for $1 or so on Amazon from some Chinese seller after reading things like what Captain Awesome said, and haven't had a single problem.