Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[hleV]

He did fight him. With magic. He used magic to teleport him.

Teleporting someone is not equal to fighting someone. Not in the general sense, anyway.

[RandomGuy96]

I believe a great man in Dragon Ball once said something along the lines of "All's fair in war. If you were in my place, you'd have done the same thing".

But yeah, not seeing the problem here. This isn't any cheaper than Vegetto pushing Salagir-haxxed Broly out of bounds, or Cell/Buu magically regenerating from everything, or Vegetto existing.

[TheGmGoken]

He did fight him. With magic. He used magic to teleport him.

Teleporting someone is not equal to fighting someone. Not in the general sense, anyway.

In this sense it does. As Random said

All's fair in war. If you were in my place, you'd have done the same thing".

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Vegetto is just being a whiny bitch. He should have expected the un-expected.

[miguelnuva1]

Vegito physically pushed Broly away for 30 seconds they passed for everyone. Cell and Buu have to be physically damaged to regenerate. What XXI did was move Vegito to a place where time was wrapped and that was the main problem as far as fighting in a tournament goes. Vegito is gone for only a couple of seconds but where XXI put him time was moving differently, sending someone to a different dimension where time is altered in a competition while not illegal is a cheap way to win.

[TheGmGoken]

Vegito physically pushed Broly away for 30 seconds they passed for everyone. Cell and Buu have to be physically damaged to regenerate. What XXI did was move Vegito to a place where time was wrapped and that was the main problem as far as fighting in a tournament goes. Vegito is gone for only a couple of seconds but where XXI put him time was moving differently, sending someone to a different dimension where time is altered in a competition while not illegal is a cheap way to win.

expect the un-expected.

[rereboy]

No it isn't, what XXI did didn't even give Vegito 30 seconds to come back.

In a real battle where lives are at stake, what XXI did could be extremely dangerous and even fatal for XXI's opponent.

Knocking the opponent out of bounds for 30 seconds in a real battle, on the other hand, is nowhere near as dangerous since its way less time.

Also, XXI's technique can only be reversed by someone pretty strong who can free himself from that dimension. Anyone not strong enough or someone who doesn't know how to escape would be unable to escape, meaning total and complete defeat.

He did fight him. With magic. He used magic to teleport him.

Teleporting someone is not equal to fighting someone. Not in the general sense, anyway.

It incapacitated Vegetto for several hours. It had exactly the same effect it would have if he had knocked out Vegetto for several hours. It's not traditional fighting but it did beat him and its no different than any other Ki-based sealing technique.

By the way, if this technique is cheap and not fair, is Mafuba cheap and unfair? Is the Genki Dama cheap and unfair? Are zenkais cheap and unfair? Is regeneration cheap and unfair?

[TheGmGoken]

I think this is the first time I've ever agreed with rereboy

[miguelnuva1]

What XXI did to Vegito is similar to what Mayweather did to Victor Ortiz. Yes what XXI did was without in the rules but others still call it cheap. I am not arguing that Vegito should get a rematch or that what XXI did wasn't fair, just that XXI won in a cheap way. Another example is WWE. Despite being scripted if two people fight one on one in a No DQ match and one guy has 3 more people come jump on the one guy to win, yes it was within the rules but it was still a cheap win.

He went to a Physical competition and did not physical harm to his opponent. In a real fight there is no rules and XXI would be unstoppable based on his attack and the only reason I'm even calling it cheap was because Vegito did not have 30 seconds to get back as everyone else did. Had Vegito being trapped for 30 seconds in both time zones I would have been telling that loser to get to the back as well.

is Mafuba cheap and unfair?

No sense the user dies even if he misses the target.

Is the Genki Dama cheap and unfair?

That is a physcial attack and it is not a set KO both Frieza and Vegeta survived it.

Are zenkais cheap and unfair?

Once again a Saiyan must be beat to this point.

Is regeneration cheap and unfair?

The person regenerating must be beat to this point.

All of the above for the most part are given a fair chance to fight back.

[rereboy]

is Mafuba cheap and unfair?

No sense the user dies even if he misses the target.

That depends, Kami didn't die even though he used right? So there's probably a level where someone can use it without being fatal.

Is the Genki Dama cheap and unfair?

That is a physcial attack and it is not a set KO both Freeza and Vegeta survived it.

Its a technique that allows you to attack with potentially unlimited energy that doesn't even belong to you since you can use all the energy around you (plants, animals, people, planets, stars, etc).

Are zenkais cheap and unfair?

Once again a Saiyan must be beat to this point.

Actually, a saiyan can just train and hurt himself to trigger zenkais and become much stronger. That's what Goku did on the way to Namek. He basically fired Kamehamehas at himself and ate senzy beans, triggering several zenkais. Kind of cheap.

Is regeneration cheap and unfair?

The person regenerating must be beat to this point.

They don't have to be beaten. They just have to be hurt. And regeneration immediately nullifies the damage. If a normal fighter is facing an opponent with regeneration, he is immediately at a disadvantage based on that alone.

All of the above for the most part are given a fair chance to fight back.

As does XXI's technique. They just have to be sure that it doesn't hit them. There are several possibilities on how that might work that were already discussed in this topic.

[dario03]

He did fight him. With magic. He used magic to teleport him.

Teleporting someone is not equal to fighting someone. Not in the general sense, anyway.

For some reason this reminds me of a video from the Street Fighter Colab on Newgrounds. Ryu throws a Hadouken and his opponent is like wtf? then boooom the guys on the ground blown in half and the crowd's like dude, its supposed to be a freaking street fight and you come out with super powers and kill the guy with magic freaking fireballs WTF man. Then Ryu starts crying or something.

Which you could kind of compare here, sure teleporting isn't normal but neither are the magic fireballs that they throw. Kind of like Goku using the Kamehameha on opponents that didn't know ki attacks in Dragon Ball. Sure its not normal but he did it with his own power. It's also like how in MMA I hear people complain about wrestlers winning by holding their opponent down. Sure sometimes that's boring but hey its not the wrestlers fault that the other guy can't stop him from imposing his will onto him, the other guy should of practiced his ground game more.

[DNA]

Furthermore, no one has ever said that the Multiverse tournament is a Martial Arts tournament.

[Scarz]

Why you mad Buu?

[TonyTheTiger]

Because Buu wants a chance to absorb Vegetto. XXI's win messes up Buu's strategy.

[RandomGuy96]

King Cold covered in scratches from fighting Bardock?

....bullshit.

Also, don't get Zen Buu too mad or he may start collapsing this universe in on itself.

[coola]

What would Buu gain by absorbing Vegetto? Just more strength, while absorbing XII would give him knowledge of (possibly) great spells, i would choose XII to absorb

[Kamiccolo9]

King Cold covered in scratches from fighting Bardock?

....bullshit.

Also, don't get Zen Buu too mad or he may start collapsing this universe in on itself.

It might be from Vegetto stomping him into the ground a few minutes ago.

[RandomGuy96]

King Cold covered in scratches from fighting Bardock?

....bullshit.

Also, don't get Zen Buu too mad or he may start collapsing this universe in on itself.

It might be from Vegetto stomping him into the ground a few minutes ago.

Ah right. Silly me.

[Draken]

The amazing part is that Vegetto didn't burst both of their heads from stomping on them. Looks like Salagir is as inconsistent as the anime itself!

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The amazing part is that Vegetto didn't burst both of their heads from stomping on them. Looks like Salagir is as inconsistent as the anime itself!

You mean that Vegetto wanted to kill them? Or that he can't control his power?

[AquaTeamV3]

The amazing part is that Vegetto didn't burst both of their heads from stomping on them. Looks like Salagir is as inconsistent as the anime itself!

Yeah, I was thinking that too. A stomp on the head from SSJ1 Vegetto should be gg for both Bardock and Cold, even with their respective buffs (SSJ and Final Form). That's not even before you factor in the 100x gravity of the battlefield itself...

I mean, I guess Vegetto could have held back a little in his anger, but that still has to leave a mark no matter how you look at it.