Goku vs Freeza - The longest anime battle in anime history?!

[DBZGTKOSDH]

^ Is that true?

[JulieYBM]

The Son Gokuu versus Freeza lasts from episode #87 (or #86, if you want to count the death of Vegeta) to #105, that's about eighteen episodes of one-one-one combat. If you want to count the current Naruto comic fight as a single fight then by the time it is adapted into the cartoon it will be well over twenty episodes, but that has yet to happen. With the way Bleach stages its fights by cutting back and forth some fights last many, many episodes. Bleach episodes #215-226 and #266-309 pretty much cover the 'final' battle with the Arrancars. Of course, this cuts between several fights and locations.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I would imagine so, I don't know of any 1 fight that lasted 19, 20-minute+ long, episodes. BTW, it's a lot longer than 3 hours long, if we do the math it's closer to 7 hours long, including filler of course.

[Kendamu]

I would imagine so, I don't know of any 1 fight that lasted 19, 20-minute+ long, episodes. BTW, it's a lot longer than 3 hours long, if we do the math it's closer to 7 hours long, including filler of course.

The episodes themselves are well over three hours long, but the idea is that the actual screen time of the fight is over three hours long.

[Blade]

With One Piece's current pacing, I reckon that even if this 'record' holds true, it will eventually be usurped.

[DarkPrince_92]

Please... after Goku went Super Saiyan, the battle was like... 5 minutes.

[Sebastian]

I don't know about Goku VS Freeza, but what if we count the entire fight against Freeza? That's almost 30 episodes.

[ABED]

Other than filler, what would you guys change or cut from the fight? Please don't mention the 5 minute thing. That's an easy fix, he doesn't say "five minutes" or says he was surprisingly off the mark.

[Saiga]

Shorten the whole thing, maybe even take out Freeza's 100% power form and just have him get stomped by Goku. If not that I'd cut out the energy donation thing at least. The manga version was pretty short anyway, though.

[Looneygamemaster]

Other than filler, what would you guys change or cut from the fight? Please don't mention the 5 minute thing. That's an easy fix, he doesn't say "five minutes" or says he was surprisingly off the mark.

Here's a possibly insane idea--have it end with the Genki Dama.

I'm serious. Despite the slow pace, I find the fight at its best before Goku goes Super Saiyan. It's a lot more gripping--once he turns Super Saiyan, Freeza loses all his menace, and the tension kind of evaporates (yeah, they try with the countdown to Namek's destruction, but the horrid pacing negates that).

[ABED]

I disagree, the Super Saiyan part of the fight is good. It's also nice to see the hero beat the living shit out of the villain. Seeing the hero get payback is always a treat, plus I don't think it would feel like there was a proper payoff to the Super Saiyan legend. If it had been the Genki Dama that had finished Freeza off then I would've felt cheated. Freeza took his god damn time and it's hard to believe that he didn't look up before he did and finish Goku off. I don't care if Freeza loses his menace, at that point it's a appropriate. After being that big an asshole and tyrant, being menacing and the strongest to the very end doesn't feel like poetic justice. It's not enough for him to lose the fight, it feels so much more compelling to see him truely get his comeupance. The mighty, arrogant Freeza is completely outmatched by a race he deemed inferior. It's humiliating for him, a total defeat.

[Looneygamemaster]

Yeah, thinking about it after I made that post, having it end with the Genki Dama wouldn't have tied up the talk about Super Saiyan.

Okay then, different idea--have that portion last one episode (two, maximum). Then we get a cathartic beating, and Freeza's breakdown is awesome instead of draining him of his menace. And we get a much better animated fight that ends the seas--

Oh wait--this is a Toei adaptation. Brief and better animated? That's crazy talk...heh, heh, heh...*sigh*

[SaiyaJedi]

How long was Luffy vs. Rob Lucci in One Piece, again?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

How long was Luffy vs. Rob Lucci in One Piece, again?

7 episodes, I think.

[hulkty]

It's true.
Goku Vs. Freeza/Freeza/Freezer is the longest "one on one" fight in anime/cartoon history.

[DBZ Mick]

I disagree, the Super Saiyan part of the fight is good. It's also nice to see the hero beat the living shit out of the villain. Seeing the hero get payback is always a treat, plus I don't think it would feel like there was a proper payoff to the Super Saiyan legend. If it had been the Genki Dama that had finished Freeza off then I would've felt cheated. Freeza took his god damn time and it's hard to believe that he didn't look up before he did and finish Goku off. I don't care if Freeza loses his menace, at that point it's a appropriate. After being that big an asshole and tyrant, being menacing and the strongest to the very end doesn't feel like poetic justice. It's not enough for him to lose the fight, it feels so much more compelling to see him truely get his comeupance. The mighty, arrogant Freeza is completely outmatched by a race he deemed inferior. It's humiliating for him, a total defeat.

Hugely agree with this. It was so satisfiying seeing Freeza completely break down, there's also some really beautifully animated episodes and Nakao gives some incredible perfomances.

[JulieYBM]

How long was Luffy vs. Rob Lucci in One Piece, again?

Episode #293 ends with Luffy catching up to Lucci. Lucci is defeated at the end of episode #309.

[Insertclevername]

Other than filler, what would you guys change or cut from the fight? Please don't mention the 5 minute thing. That's an easy fix, he doesn't say "five minutes" or says he was surprisingly off the mark.

Other than the obligatory "5 minute" line, I'd say...perhaps underplay Freeza's 100% form just slightly so he isn't quite as on par with SSJ Gokuu.

[ABED]

Other than filler, what would you guys change or cut from the fight? Please don't mention the 5 minute thing. That's an easy fix, he doesn't say "five minutes" or says he was surprisingly off the mark.

Other than the obligatory "5 minute" line, I'd say...perhaps underplay Freeza's 100% form just slightly so he isn't quite as on par with SSJ Gokuu.

I never took it as him being on par with Goku at that point, especially after Goku's reaction to the knee to the gut.

[JulieYBM]

Other than filler, what would you guys change or cut from the fight? Please don't mention the 5 minute thing. That's an easy fix, he doesn't say "five minutes" or says he was surprisingly off the mark.

I think I would add in more techniques from Freeza and Son Gokuu, calling back on their wide array of techniques with Gokuu's being all defeated. This way, with his techniques null, it is Gokuu's Super Saiyan transformation's power, speed, and stamina boost that save his bacon. In Dragon Ball Z Freeza forms a giant ki ball that Gokuu knocks back into space, destroying a planet, I believe. I'd like to see more of that, too.