"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:20 pm

Ahh, all right haha. I didn't know if I was misremembering or misinterpreting something or not there. Either way, it still leaves ample room for the special character to be either of the predictions, or even something else entirely for all we know.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by JeffJarrett » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:23 pm

The best would be both, Super Cell as Dr. Gero's ultimate android and Super Baby 17 as Dr. Myuu's ultimate Machine Mutant

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:24 pm

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TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I don't know about you guys, but this is what I'm seeing in that card and it really looks like a Super Bebi 17.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:26 pm

Hmm...you know, I know I'm overthinking it since Heroes doesn't seem to go out of it's way to put too much thought into it's story, but...that would make a lot of sense. I've always had a bit of a problem with how easily deceived Gero was. It'd make more sense for him to have been working on a similar deception behind Myuu's back, just like how Myuu was on him. So maybe in this scenario, after Super 17 has turned on Gero, Gero's secondary plan goes into action - having Cell, who he'd retrofitted to be able to aborb Super 17, come into play and do just that, thereby crushing Myuu for his treachery as well as getting his long awaited revenge on everyone else.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:33 am

Soooo, I noticed the back of one of the GT Vegeta cards on a Youtube video I was watching, and it listed him as a Super Saiyan 2 for the form the card depicts. Soooo, um...that's been a thing for a while now for those who care.

Also went back through the card lists while preparing to update the download packet and noticed this little gem:
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For those of you who don't know, it says:

サイヤ人(???)
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(超サイヤ人2)

Saiyan(???)
Hero
(Super Saiyan 2)

This makes it sound like they are in the second SS stage, but I think it's how they are stupidly referring to the GM versions of the SS avatars; as in more like Super Saiyan 2nd version. This image classifies them the same way, but all of them look basically the exact same as their original mission versions. Maybe someone who understands the language could clear this up?
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by JeffJarrett » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:42 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Soooo, I noticed the back of one of the GT Vegeta cards on a Youtube video I was watching, and it listed him as a Super Saiyan 2 for the form the card depicts. Soooo, um...that's been a thing for a while now for those who care.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:50 am

JeffJarrett wrote:Since March 2013.
I saw the card in the first picture, which is from Galaxy Mission 4. GM4 released September 13th, 2012. So it was around LONG before that, but it seems someone was more observant much earlier than I (though I don't regularly check for vids or pictures of card backs).
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by gokugambitoptimus » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:00 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Well, if we look closely, we can see that the hair color is different and the characters have electric bolts

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by JeffJarrett » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:56 pm

gokugambitoptimus wrote:Well, if we look closely, we can see that the hair color is different and the characters have electric bolts
No electric bolts, and they look different because they have their alternate skin.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:58 pm

I would prefer Cell absorbing Super #17, but I would also like to to see Baby possessing Super #17.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:32 pm

Oh shit, so we missed that for nearly a year... Makes me wonder if we missed anything else. Maybe Trunks does have Super Saiyan 2 and we haven't noticed?

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:39 pm

Why do the SSJ2s look like the SSJs and vice versa :| ?
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:45 pm

DNA wrote:Maybe Trunks does have Super Saiyan 2 and we haven't noticed?
Which Trunks? We have many Trunks versions. :P

I wonder though if GT Gohan also has the form. But it's strange, I search the official site for GT Vegeta, and he only has his normal, Super Saiyan, and Super Saiyan 3 forms. He doesn't even have an icon for Super Saiyan 2:

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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:58 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I wonder though if GT Gohan also has the form. But it's strange, I search the official site for GT Vegeta, and he only has his normal, Super Saiyan, and Super Saiyan 3 forms. He doesn't even have an icon for Super Saiyan 2:

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Not all the characters have icons. They are only given to those involved in team attacks or team stat buffs. SS2 Vegeta doesn't have a card with any team skills, so he doesn't have an icon. He's clearly a Super Saiyan 2 though, as it says 超サイヤ人2 under the transformation section below his name the same way it lists them on the icons:
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It's possible Gohan does have the form, or will. Can't tell without seeing the backs of the cards most of the time. :/
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:01 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
DNA wrote:Maybe Trunks does have Super Saiyan 2 and we haven't noticed?
Which Trunks? We have many Trunks versions. :P
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:11 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
So after checking the Heroes twitter account and having this page quasi translated (the text is incomplete), it seems the avatars have indeed gained Super Saiyan 2 as a skill replacement for Super Saiyan. From what I can tell, since sometime around GM4 or 5 at least, maybe sooner (perhaps when the Galaxy Missions started and they got the new clothes)? The have no real SS2 traits though, in-game, on cards or for the commercials... :/
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:20 am

Oh, so they are Super Saiyan 2 just because even though they clearly aren't in any way? Awesome.

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Post by hleV » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:24 am

Like I said, they don't know how SS hair works. The evidence was already in SS3 bangs.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:19 am

Then I guess this is why Beet had sparks at one point in the manga.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by gokugambitoptimus » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:49 am

I have hope that one day we will see the sparks (for the Super saiyan 2 form) with the avatars

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