Did the Super Kamehameha replace the Kamehameha?
-
Kamiccolo9
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 10371
- Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:32 pm
- Location: Regensburg, Germany
Did the Super Kamehameha replace the Kamehameha?
In my opinion, the Super Kamehameha became the norm after the 23rd Budokai. What do you think?
Champion of the 1st Kanzenshuu Short Story Tenkaichi Budokai
Kamiccolo9's Kompendium of Short Stories
Kamiccolo9's Kompendium of Short Stories
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
Re: Did the Super Kamehameha replace the Kamehameha?
Yes. Super just meant it had a lot of power behind it.
-
Insertclevername
- I Live Here
- Posts: 3208
- Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:27 pm
- Location: Eastern Zone 439
Re: Did the Super Kamehameha replace the Kamehameha?
They're pretty vague on the difference between a normal and a "Super Kamehameha". I always imagined it was just a Kamehameha with higher percent of the user's power(let's say a traditional Kamehameha uses 40% since that would allow for multiple usages. A Super Kamehameha would use something between 70% to 90% of the user's strength and would act as a finisher). Just a theory of mine.
I believe that there is a Daizenshuu article that talks about the Super Kamehameha, so somebody will probably pull it up. Take my fan theory if you so please.
I believe that there is a Daizenshuu article that talks about the Super Kamehameha, so somebody will probably pull it up. Take my fan theory if you so please.
Cipher wrote:Also, you can seriously like whatever and still get laid. That's a revelation that'll hit you at some point.
-
Kamiccolo9
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 10371
- Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:32 pm
- Location: Regensburg, Germany
Re: Did the Super Kamehameha replace the Kamehameha?
Insertclevername wrote:They're pretty vague on the difference between a normal and a "Super Kamehameha". I always imagined it was just a Kamehameha with higher percent of the user's power(let's say a traditional Kamehameha uses 40% since that would allow for multiple usages. A Super Kamehameha would use something between 70% to 90% of the user's strength and would act as a finisher). Just a theory of mine.
I believe that there is a Daizenshuu article that talks about the Super Kamehameha, so somebody will probably pull it up. Take my fan theory if you so please.
That's all it says about it.Super~
First Appearance: Chapter 185
People: Son Goku
Special Characteristics: A Kamehameha powered up through his training under Kami-sama in the Heavenly Realm. It has enough power to deflect Piccolo’s powerful Makosen. (Daizenshuu 2, p.209)
Champion of the 1st Kanzenshuu Short Story Tenkaichi Budokai
Kamiccolo9's Kompendium of Short Stories
Kamiccolo9's Kompendium of Short Stories
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
-
DBZGTKOSDH
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 12401
- Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
- Location: Greece
Re: Did the Super Kamehameha replace the Kamehameha?
Super Kamehameha became Kamehameha in full power after the 23rd TB, which makes it bigger & more powerful. But it's not exactly the same technique, since there is a difference between Kamehameha & Super Kamehameha. They just call Super Kamehameha as simply Kamehameha for convenience, but when Goku fires a small Kamehameha, you can't call that Super Kamehameha.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: Did the Super Kamehameha replace the Kamehameha?
I'm starting to think no. I went back and read the entire manga, looking at all the Kamehamehas that were used, and while some are ambiguous it seems only the Kamehamehas used in conjunction with high levels of the Kaio-ken and those used from the Cell Games onwards are the same size as the Super Kamehameha. I've started to thinking that maybe the Super Kamehameha is actually a failure, and was discarded because it didn't actually cause much damage to Piccolo. Then Goku developed the "Kamehameha Full Power" (taking from the chapter he uses the IT Kamehameha against Cell) during the RoSaT which actually was effective.
I'm re-watching Dragon Ball GT in full on my blog. Check it out if you're interested in my thoughts on the series as I watch through it!
-
RandomGuy96
- Kicks it Old-School
- Posts: 8881
- Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:57 pm
- Location: San Diego, California, USA
Re: Did the Super Kamehameha replace the Kamehameha?
I still don't understand how Piccolo just tanked the Super Kamehameha. The dude was already half dead! He didn't even put up his arms to block or anything. He just took it head on with no defensive posture and easily got right back up after playing dead to blast a hole in Goku. Ki amplification must have sucked back then... or at least Goku's, since Piccolo's casual, uncharged, one-handed homing blast that was called weak by Goku did way more damage to Piccolo than the Super Kamehameha.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: Did the Super Kamehameha replace the Kamehameha?
Ki amplification can be used for offense and for defense. For an example look at how Goku took Piccolo's jr ultimate attack on the 23rd tournament. Therefore, Ki amplification only really matter against opponents who can't do it (like Radditz) or when the Ki amplification of a fighter is that much better than the Ki amplification of his opponent. Otherwise, that advantage pretty much cancels itself out.