The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[PerfectFreeza]

Kamiccolo got attacked by Metal-Cooler, when Goku and Vegeta were fighting him.So it's the same Metal-Cooler.

[Kamiccolo9]

Kamiccolo got attacked by Metal-Cooler, when Goku and Vegeta were fighting him.So it's the same Metal-Cooler.

It was after Cooler's arm got torn off by Goku, which was when Cooler explained that he got stronger from being repaired. So the Cooler that beat Piccolo is stronger than the one that Goku was initially fighting.

[PerfectFreeza]

Yes, but that Metal Cooler got taken out by Goku and Vegeta combined.

[Kamiccolo9]

Yes, but that Metal Cooler got taken out by Goku and Vegeta combined.

By them using everything they had. They could barely stand up, and couldn't use SSJ after attacking Cooler. I imagine the same result would occur if that strategy was used successfully on Kamiccolo as well.

[PerfectFreeza]

Which would make Kamiccolo equal to Post-Repair Metal Cooler(I actually like that).
Yet Kamiccolo got 2 shot by Post-Repair Metal Cooler.
Also one thing:18 tanked Vegeta's punch to the gut.

[Kamiccolo9]

Which would make Kamiccolo equal to Post-Repair Metal Cooler(I actually like that).
Yet Kamiccolo got 2 shot by Post-Repair Metal Cooler.
Also one thing:18 tanked Vegeta's punch to the gut.

Vegeta also took many of 18's attacks, yet each of Cooler's sent him reeling.
Kamiccolo thought Cooler was fighting Goku, and was surprised and caught off guard here. From what we saw, he didn't even attempt to block Cooler's attack.

[PerfectFreeza]

18 could have been toying with him.
At equals grounds, I don't think he would take that much damage.He couldn't even fight back Metal-Cooler.He was holding his arm, when Metal Cooler was about to attack, meaning he was heavily wounded.
And still, he took some damage from the Battle Robots.

[Kamiccolo9]

18 could have been toying with him.
At equals grounds, I don't think he would take that much damage.He couldn't even fight back Metal-Cooler.He was holding his arm, when Metal Cooler was about to attack, meaning he was heavily wounded.
And still, he took some damage from the Battle Robots.

Seeing as Krillin was able to take out the battle robots, and he's hundreds of times weaker than even Android Arc Piccolo, then it's easy just to disregard that as an inconsistency. Unless you want to either buff up Krillin to crazy high levels, or nerf Piccolo down to the Earthling's strength for no reason.
I doubt 18 was suppressing herself that much, judging by 17's statement that she couldn't take on all of them. Vegeta shouldn't be much weaker than 18 was.
As for them being at equal levels, Goku's unguarded Kamehameha blasted Cell in half, and would have killed him were it not for his regeneration, ans even suppressed Cell was much stronger than Goku. Same with Vegeta and his Final Flash. And we know that Cooler can gather his ki for huge attacks very quickly, as seen in M5, so there's no problem with him doing it here. There's not really any issue with an unguarded ki attack from a weaker or equal being, taking out a stronger one.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Vegeta and Goku combined is basically the equivalent of SSJ2 though =/. I'm pretty sure Cyborg arc SSJ2 Goku could crush C-16.

[Draken]

Vegeta and Goku combined is basically the equivalent of SSJ2 though =/. I'm pretty sure Cyborg arc SSJ2 Goku could crush C-16.

Since when did battles in DBZ ever work that way...? Vegeta and Goku combined shouldn't be equivalent of a SSJ2.

[dbzfan7]

21st Tenkaichi Budokai

Nam vs Yamcha

Nam vs Krillin

Girin vs Yamcha

Girin vs Krillin

[RandomGuy96]

They got beaten without much trouble by Goku, so it goes without saying that they can roflstomp Yamcha and Krillin.

[Kamiccolo9]

21st Tenkaichi Budokai

Nam vs Yamcha

Nam vs Krillin

Girin vs Yamcha

Girin vs Krillin

Nam, Nam, Girin, Girin.
First goes without saying. Cuz Yamcha
Nam was able to briefly put Goku down. I imagine he'd do worse to Krillin.
Again, cuz Yamcha.
Krillin might have the edge, but I doubt he's strong enough to break out of the gum.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Vegeta and Goku combined is basically the equivalent of SSJ2 though =/. I'm pretty sure Cyborg arc SSJ2 Goku could crush C-16.

Since when did battles in DBZ ever work that way...? Vegeta and Goku combined shouldn't be equivalent of a SSJ2.

Umm it's Goku plus someone equal to or stronger than Goku. That's Goku x2(+). SSJ2 or even very slightly greater.

[Kamiccolo9]

Vegeta and Goku combined is basically the equivalent of SSJ2 though =/. I'm pretty sure Cyborg arc SSJ2 Goku could crush C-16.

Since when did battles in DBZ ever work that way...? Vegeta and Goku combined shouldn't be equivalent of a SSJ2.

Umm it's Goku plus someone equal to or stronger than Goku. That's Goku x2(+). SSJ2 or even very slightly greater.

Except ki doesn't work like that. Otherwise Krillin and Piccolo could have easily taken out Nappa.

[Draken]

Vegeta and Goku combined is basically the equivalent of SSJ2 though =/. I'm pretty sure Cyborg arc SSJ2 Goku could crush C-16.

Since when did battles in DBZ ever work that way...? Vegeta and Goku combined shouldn't be equivalent of a SSJ2.

Umm it's Goku plus someone equal to or stronger than Goku. That's Goku x2(+). SSJ2 or even very slightly greater.

I don't recall battle powers ever being additive when it's two separate people working together.

What Kamicollo said.

Plus if it did work that way, it just gives more firepower to the Broly is unlimited Broly is SSJ3 level arguments.

And I refuse to let that happen.

Ever.

Ever.

[TheMightyOzaru]

If they combined an attack on Nappa, it would have killed him. However they didn't think to do that because he's not gonna sit there and let himself get killed. What happens to 2 relatively equal attacks when they are added? It makes 1 attack with Ki equal to the 2 attacks added together. What else would happen?

[Kamiccolo9]

If they combined an attack on Nappa, it would have killed him. However they didn't think to do that because he's not gonna sit there and let himself get killed. What happens to 2 relatively equal attacks when they are added? It makes 1 attack with Ki equal to the 2 attacks added together. What else would happen?

He was gonna stand there and let a kienzan hit him until Vegeta told him to get out of the way. What makes you think the idiot wouldn't stand there and let a blast hit him?

[RandomGuy96]

Because he knows everyone there is way over 1,500 and can probably do basic math?

He also bothered dodging Piccolo's SBC.

Though that makes me wonder: when you create a combined energy blast, is the blast faster? Is it only as fast as the weakest person's blast? The strongest's?

[TheMightyOzaru]

If they combined an attack on Nappa, it would have killed him. However they didn't think to do that because he's not gonna sit there and let himself get killed. What happens to 2 relatively equal attacks when they are added? It makes 1 attack with Ki equal to the 2 attacks added together. What else would happen?

He was gonna stand there and let a kienzan hit him until Vegeta told him to get out of the way. What makes you think the idiot wouldn't stand there and let a blast hit him?

He's fought them, I'm sure he'd realize a combined attack wouldn't be smart thing to try and tank.