"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Saiga » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:14 am

:shock: Well now.

So from his torn clothing, we can see that he has a different chest, too... but I'm not fond of the beefiness. I guess when 17 absorbed Cell, he couldn't do anything to make him compact...

Also, at first I thought he had his own variation of the Shocking Death Ball, but it turns out regular Super 17 has that as well.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by gokugambitoptimus » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:54 am

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gokugambitoptimus wrote:The design is very....meh

I like the crazy ideas like this & Baby Janemba, but they need to be less lazy with the designs
Agreed.

But we haven't gotten a fully clear imagine of Super Cellventeen, so I'm gonna bite my tongue just a little bit at the moment.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Ryuman » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:14 pm

Oh my God... 17 got jacked! :shock:
I wonder if this is a case of "Power= Big Muscles" or maybe it's to do with Cell's Power Weighted form. Probably just a representation of strength but whatever.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by goku the krump dancer » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:04 pm

gokugambitoptimus wrote:
goku the krump dancer wrote:
gokugambitoptimus wrote:The design is very....meh

I like the crazy ideas like this & Baby Janemba, but they need to be less lazy with the designs
Agreed.

But we haven't gotten a fully clear imagine of Super Cellventeen, so I'm gonna bite my tongue just a little bit at the moment.
Well, thanks to TheDevilCorpse, we can see clearly the aspect of the "new guy"
Better, but still i think they can make more
Eh its... okay at best, like you said so much more could be done. I guess he can find away to compact all the power of a 10x Kamehameha into his body but not Cell lol.

Whats disappointing me the most about these what if mergers is that they don't have any new moves to show off, why not combine the Revenge Death Ball with Janemba's "Lighting Shower Rain" or whatever its called or Combine the Shocking Death Ball with a Kamehameha or something sheesh.

Trunks and Gogeta got new moves with their SSJ3 forms and I'm sure Mirai Gohan has a few new tricks up his sleeve also.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:20 pm

I keep seeing people using Shocking Death Ball, wasn't it Electric Hell Ball? I'm pretty sure it's Dengeki Jigoku Dama, which translates to Electric Hell Ball, right?

As for this guy, I'm trying to like him, but he just looks so weird and lazy.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:59 pm

DNA wrote:I keep seeing people using Shocking Death Ball, wasn't it Electric Hell Ball? I'm pretty sure it's Dengeki Jigoku Dama, which translates to Electric Hell Ball, right?
I think that was a dubism to avoid the word Hell...by using death. Not much better, but maybe enough to keep the soccer mom's off Funi's ass?

Anyway, yeah it's 電撃地獄玉 / Dengeki Jigoku Dama which can give you: electric/shock(ing)/blitz/lightning - hell/inferno/abyss - ball/sphere/coin.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:21 pm

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DNA wrote:I keep seeing people using Shocking Death Ball, wasn't it Electric Hell Ball? I'm pretty sure it's Dengeki Jigoku Dama, which translates to Electric Hell Ball, right?
I think that was a dubism to avoid the word Hell...by using death. Not much better, but maybe enough to keep the soccer mom's off Funi's ass?

Anyway, yeah it's 電撃地獄玉 / Dengeki Jigoku Dama which can give you: electric/shock(ing)/blitz/lightning - hell/inferno/abyss - ball/sphere/coin.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Thanos » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:38 pm

He honestly wouldn't be that much stronger, would he? By that arc Cell was pretty weak comparatively.

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That is just too weird. :shock:
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:52 pm

Thanos wrote:He honestly wouldn't be that much stronger, would he? By that arc Cell was pretty weak comparatively.
He could be. 18 was an ant compared to Semi-Perfect Cell, but he got a massive gain from absorbing her. If this makes it out to where Super 17 was made to become much stronger by integrating Cell into his being, it could make him much stronger.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:53 pm

Well he took in C-17 and he got really strong. Imagine what would happen if he took in Cell...
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:00 pm

Thanos wrote:He honestly wouldn't be that much stronger, would he? By that arc Cell was pretty weak comparatively.

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That is just too weird. :shock:
Did Rob Liefeld design Super 17 or something :lol: ? He looks fucking awful.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Insertclevername » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:07 pm

Yeah...I'm not much of a fan of this design. To be honest, it looks like shit. It barely has any Cell features on it.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:11 pm

Super 17 absorbing Super 13 would have been cooler in my opinion. I'm looking forward to what crazy character they will create for the Shadow Dragon saga.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:50 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Super 17 absorbing Super 13 would have been cooler in my opinion.
Nah, Super #17 & Cell are Dr. Gero's ultimate Artificial Humans, so they fit better together. Though, it would be better if Super #17 was the one who would get absorbed by Cell...
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by gokugambitoptimus » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:07 pm

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Eh its... okay at best, like you said so much more could be done. I guess he can find away to compact all the power of a 10x Kamehameha into his body but not Cell lol.

Whats disappointing me the most about these what if mergers is that they don't have any new moves to show off, why not combine the Revenge Death Ball with Janemba's "Lighting Shower Rain" or whatever its called or Combine the Shocking Death Ball with a Kamehameha or something sheesh.

Trunks and Gogeta got new moves with their SSJ3 forms and I'm sure Mirai Gohan has a few new tricks up his sleeve also.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Zephyr » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:31 pm

Maybe he absorbed Cell through the little things on the palms of his hands? Personally, I don't hate the design. Still better than another stupid SSj3.

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Post by DNA » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:40 pm

Zephyr wrote:Maybe he absorbed Cell through the little things on the palms of his hands? Personally, I don't hate the design. Still better than another stupid SSj3.
Super #17 doesn't need to absorbed through the palms, he can absorb with all his body. Furthermore, as I pointed out, maybe he's got an improved version of #13's skin assimilation, maybe that's how both #17's fused in the first place.

Rationalizing it doesn't make him look any better though.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:48 pm

It's mainly the bulkiness I'm not liking. I think I'd be okay with the Cell eyes, eyeline-things, and the body armor he seems to have taken on - but he didn't have to pull a Broly on top of it all.

Although...didn't Super 17, when he absorbed a lot of energy, bulk up briefly each time? Maybe it's trying to suggest he's constantly in a state like that, that he's just 'bursting with power'!

...Or they just thought it looked cool and guessed wrong. Either or.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Thanos » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:06 pm

My problem with this and Janenba Bebi is the fact that they're just not that different. For SUPER #17 ABSORBING CELL, it seems very uninteresting.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:09 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:Trunks and Gogeta got new moves with their SSJ3 forms and I'm sure Mirai Gohan has a few new tricks up his sleeve also.
Eh, the only characters with truly new attacks are the SS3 Vegetas (which share their new one) and SS3 Broli.

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